If Pacquiao/Clottey does over 600,000 PPV Buys, it is a HUGE success

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Pac/Marquez 2 did almost 500k and that was before both of them were as big as they are now and all that had was a countdown show. Not to mention it was at 130. Not to nitpick, but it did 400k, not almost 500k. That fight was the biggest selling fight at a weight below WW of all time. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

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Well I'm originally from Queens and I know of Clottey from way back when he first came over. Some of my other friends who are casual fans know the name as well. Good.. Im from queens as well.. Nobody knows who he is around here IMO.. Im a fan of his and i think im one of the few rooting for him..

I'd also like to ask what you consider would be decent, if 600,000 is a huge success? Are you saying if the PPV for the supposed face of boxing did 300,000 buys it would be decent? It sounds like you are just trying to make excuses for you favorite fighter when he doesn't pull great numbers. Mayweather is the number 1 PPV draw and it's been proven against common opponents. More than likely his bout with Shane Mosley will top Pacs numbers versus Cotto. Will never understand why Pac fans can't accept that Mayweather is a bigger PPV draw. Don't bring Mayweather in this thread he sucks bigtime. Pacquiao name itself will do 800K easy. I wouldn't be surprise if it goes to 1M PPVS.

Cause I'm pissed that people like to big up Pac so much but if he were to pull 400,000 buys it would be acceptable. You know how much flack Floyd would get from Pac fans if he pulled that kind of number......The shit would be non stop. Is true... Floyd fans would do the same thing to Pac though. But, Floyd would get it more cuz he is out there calling himself the main draw, saying he is the face of boxing, talking about how boxing will die without him... That is everything that came out of his mouth... Pac does not go around talking like that... That is why Floyd would get it worst than Pac if Floyd did those numbers... But, don't get it twisted, I am not saying you but Floyd fans would also throw the 400k in Pac face if he pull those numbers. And, then make threads about how Floyd has to get the bigger split between the two. As if they are getting the money as well...

800k Will be a success. 600k is expected. Clottey is not a huge name but Pac is getting there. The lack of 24/7 will make it less promoted, but it's costly and there's only 1 month left or whatever.

Fine, but would Floyd do only 400k versus Clottey? Answer it truthfully. I just want this whole Pac is a bigger draw than Floyd to die because it is pretty obvious Floyd is a bigger PPV draw. Is hard to say cuz honestly it depends... If Floyd was the one fighting Clottey and GBP is doing the promotion you would see a better undercard, you would see it in movie theaters, and a whole better promotinal job. Something that would of helped the Pac-Clottey undercard was going to be Antonio Margarito... That right there would of gotten some buys but he got taken off.... For example if you look at Floyd-JMM Golden boy did way better job then Pac-Cotto in promotions... The movie theter and on paper he had a better undercard and the date was nice... Lets not forget that when Floyd-JMM was going to be for June they only had sold like 3,000 tickets when Floyd got "injured". That to me does not sound like he is the biggest draw in boxing. But, then you moved it to Mexican independence weekend, you give it more time to promote, and set up the undercard and it became a success... Even with Floyd-Mosley they are talking about puttin Saul Alvarez on the undercard. And, it will be on Cinco de Mayo weekend. And, Alvarez even though a prospect is the biggest fighter in Mexico. Even bigger than JMM believe it or not... So he will help sell some PPV... So you have to put everything into consideration when you talking about this subject. Because, right now Pac-Clottey is not appeling... Every single PPV buy that "the event" gets it will be because of Pacquiao...

Pac/Marquez 2 did almost 500k and that was before both of them were as big as they are now and all that had was a countdown show. Not to mention it was at 130. Pac and JMM had big followings from Fili's and Mexicans. Especially after the 1st fight was close.

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I'm hanging in there my dude and the family is doing well. I can't complain. Just finalizing everything for my wedding that takes place next month! I'm actually about to leave in a little bit and take a few of my grooms to get fitted for their tuxes. Thanks for asking fam..how you been? thats dope man, I hope the wedding goes off without a problem. I'm in a new city, new job so I'm still getting acclimated.

Think it has a damn good chance to hit that mark. Hope it hits 1 mil.

I think most people are predicting in the range of 600k so I wouldn't call it a HUGE success exactly, but it'd still be a success all things considered. 600,000 buys is nothing to sniff at.

Fine, but would Floyd do only 400k versus Clottey? Answer it truthfully. I just want this whole Pac is a bigger draw than Floyd to die because it is pretty obvious Floyd is a bigger PPV draw. Who is saying that in this thread?!! NO ONE is talking about that but you.

because I have faith in man kind my homie. Check can still be saved. BTW dude, I havent asked you in a long time, hows your fam? I hope all is well my dude. I'm hanging in there my dude and the family is doing well. I can't complain. Just finalizing everything for my wedding that takes place next month! I'm actually about to leave in a little bit and take a few of my grooms to get fitted for their tuxes. Thanks for asking fam..how you been?

I would consider 600k pretty good as they made good money for all involved but I think a huge succcess would be to exceed the upper end of expectations. 800-850 would be a huge success to me but 600 would still be respectable.

What do you expect? Whenever either one of them is mentioned, the other one WILL BE BROUGHT up. Rather intentional or not. This is NSB, why are you surprised? because I have faith in man kind my homie. Check can still be saved. BTW dude, I havent asked you in a long time, hows your fam? I hope all is well my dude.

Do you agree with his statement? The supposed face of boxing, in a huge event, in a huge arena pulling 600,000 being a huge success? So, a decent buy rate for this event according to TS would be around 400,000 buys. You can't certainly agree that Pac pulling 400,000 buys be a good ppv buyrate. If you do consider it fine then people can never ever argue that he is a bigger PPV draw than Floyd. BTW, I am far from a Floyd fan but I am willing to defend him. I wouldn't consider it a bust... But, you keep talking about being the face of boxing. I would say Oscar was the face of boxing on one point. And, I would also say that Oscar was a bigger draw then Floyd or Pac... And, there was times where Oscar as the face of boxing didn't even do 500k or 400k. And, some were considered decent or success. Because, he didn't have a dancing partner... So if Pac-Clottey does 400k I would not consider that a bust either...

I'm just speaking in general. That statement isn't directed exactly at you. of course its directed towards me. Thats why you made that statement and the previous one in your initial post. You jumped the gun out of either frustration or anger. And you seemed like one of the objective ones, too. This is what you need to understand is that we are no longer in the era where PPV buys average a high buy rate. Times have change and so has the feeling towards boxing in the mainstream. If you take average ppv buys outside of Floyd, DLH and Pac, you'll find that they are below 400,000. The biggest PPV draw in history is from the era when boxing was still prevalent in the mainstream and his time has passed. Floyd and Pac became major draw BECAUSE of DLH, but after his touch, they have only done PPV's with a 24/7. Now to say that any PPV with Floyd or Pac that does over 600K without a 24/7 which has been the MAIN driving force for their PPVS would NOT be a success is plain ludicrous.