Look, as boxing fans, we should be upset that Klit/Chambers isn't going to be televised in America. But we all know the reason why it isn't: People don't want to watch the Klitchkos fight.
Its as simple as that. It has nothing to do with nationality. If that were the case, then why did Cotto/Pacquiao, 2 NON Americans who speak more BROKEN English than the Klitchkos, do over a million PPV buys? How has Pacquiao been a consistent PPV fighter?
It really doesn't even have to do with Boxing. Take Fedor Emelianenko. The guy is Russian. Americans cant tell Ukrainians and Russians apart so Nationality is not the issue, but the difference between Emelianenko and the Klitchkos is that Fedor delivers entertainment where as the Klitchkos don't. Pacquiao and Cotto deliver entertainment as the Klitchkos don't. Thus, networks are not interested in broadcasting their fights because the casual fans aren't interested in watching them. Here you have 2 fighters who are over 6'6 ft tall, massive and they fight like their opponents are made of herpes.
Now, this is where you reply with that same ol' cliche response..
Well, I find their style exciting and I can appreciate it. If you want to watch brawling, go watch MMA. this is boxing, boxing is a science boxing is a blah blah blah
Chad Dawson is a top 3 favorite fighter for me. I love watching dude fight. Very technical, patient, methodical. I appreciate the finesse and intellegence he brings to the ring. But the majority of the casual community doesnt. He couldn't draw flies to shit. A lot of hardcore fans feel the same way about the Klits as I feel about Dawson. But What you or I think or appreciate or find entertaining doesn't matter. Why? Because we are hardcore fans. We are to boxing to what hardcore hip hop fans are to underground Hip Hop. We keep it relevant, but we don't keep it prominent.
So can we stop with this, "if the Klitchko's were American, they would be super stars" bullshit? Because they wouldn't.
Then why is Korobov one of my favorite fighters?
It's the equivalent of "i have a black friend therefore i can't be a racist" stupidity. The fact that you think it actually fools anybody just demonstrates yours.
As for why you chose Korobov, cuz you were saying Jacobs would destroy & was a much better prospect until someone posted a video of your idol getting destroyed by Matvey in the Amateurs.
I love how the Easten Euros on here defend the Klits so much when they actually don't even give a **** about the Ukraine anymore. Vitali consideres Hamburg his hometown now. He's being fake to get all your money
1) it's Ukraine not The Ukraine.
2) That's why Vitali has run for Mayor of Kiev twice? That why he has literally gotten into physical confrontations with corrupt politicians when trying to combat their extortion and fu*king over of regular Ukrainians because it upsets him so much.
You don't know wtf you're talking about so shut the fu*k up. F@ggot.
i think most people would agree mayweather is much better to watch than wlad
But why? Floyd fights on the back foot. Wlad comes forward and tries to exchange and his oppenets shit themselves. That's not his fault. Floyd never comes forward. EVER!
It does make you wonder why Floyd Mayweather does so well in the PPV stakes?, because he's style is far more boring then Wlads. At least Wlad stops his opponents.
Maybe Wlad should talk shit, throw money at a camera and basically act like a cunt! Maybe then he'd do well in America?
i think most people would agree mayweather is much better to watch than wlad
It does make you wonder why Floyd Mayweather does so well in the PPV stakes?, because he's style is far more boring then Wlads. At least Wlad stops his opponents.
Maybe Wlad should talk shit, throw money at a camera and basically act like a cunt! Maybe then he'd do well in America?
Its true,it really is nothing to do with nationality
only the deluded klitschko nuthuggers like carnivore think so
Wlad would still be shit to watch if he was a yank
If he raped a woman and said he was going to eat his opponents children, he'd be more popular with the American media people.
They despise men of strong character like the Klitschkos.
That isn't it my man. With all Wlads ability he doesn't go after his opponents. He's content to play it safe. It works and that is good. But it just doesn't excite most people.
doesnt matter if the american media supports wlad or not, he will get his support in germany, thats more than enough.
the sad thing about the whole story is, that chambers is an american fighter, and he never stood in the spotlight yet.
the us media is not even gonna support chambers in the biggest fight of his career, thats just pathetic, say whatever u want.
thats not how other countries treat their own fighters.
if they really dont broadcast the fight in usa, then chambers should change is nationality before his fight vs wlad.
Chunk speaks the truth!
Green K sent.
you honestly dont think the lack of action in wlads last few fights arent the real reason american fans arent excited about watching wlad fight. come on man give me a ****ing break if wlad had been destroying his opponents with an exciting all action style it wouldnt make a difference where he was from. he is a good hw and his safety first style suits him but lets not act like if he was just of a different ethnic backround he would be loved by the fans thats a load of shit
I am a big fan of Wlad and Dawson actually and can see what you are saying here.....they have very little mainstream appeal but it has little to do with their styles, Floyd isn't action packed but is one of the biggest draws in boxing today.
The best thing Wlad could do to make himself more marketable is video tape himself earning the name Dr. Steelahmmer with Hayden and post it online as much as that would hurt Loccy.
The same with Bad Chad, they need to do and say outlandish things to garner maninstream attention look what it does for Hopkins who is notorious for being in snoozers.
And that is sad, shows the kind of society we have right now.
Look, as boxing fans, we should be upset that Klit/Chambers isn't going to be televised in America. But we all know the reason why it isn't: People don't want to watch the Klitchkos fight.
Its as simple as that. It has nothing to do with nationality. If that were the case, then why did Cotto/Pacquiao, 2 NON Americans who speak more BROKEN English than the Klitchkos, do over a million PPV buys? How has Pacquiao been a consistent PPV fighter?
It really doesn't even have to do with Boxing. Take Fedor Emelianenko. The guy is Russian. Americans cant tell Ukrainians and Russians apart so Nationality is not the issue, but the difference between Emelianenko and the Klitchkos is that Fedor delivers entertainment where as the Klitchkos don't. Pacquiao and Cotto deliver entertainment as the Klitchkos don't. Thus, networks are not interested in broadcasting their fights because the casual fans aren't interested in watching them. Here you have 2 fighters who are over 6'6 ft tall, massive and they fight like their opponents are made of herpes.
Now, this is where you reply with that same ol' cliche response..
Chad Dawson is a top 3 favorite fighter for me. I love watching dude fight. Very technical, patient, methodical. I appreciate the finesse and intellegence he brings to the ring. But the majority of the casual community doesnt. He couldn't draw flies to shit. A lot of hardcore fans feel the same way about the Klits as I feel about Dawson. But What you or I think or appreciate or find entertaining doesn't matter. Why? Because we are hardcore fans. We are to boxing to what hardcore hip hop fans are to underground Hip Hop. We keep it relevant, but we don't keep it prominent.
So can we stop with this, "if the Klitchko's were American, they would be super stars" bullshit? Because they wouldn't.
Godamn 2501. This is an ATG post.
It probably has more to do with HBO detesting doing tape-delay fights, and the Klitschko's refusing to do their fights at 4am or whatever in order to facilitate a live feed for American TV. They do enough with the gate and the German TV where they dont really need HBO at all. Must be nice........
That's a good point. Before I was thinking maybe it was more about numbers, and perhaps that is the case, but even if he does descent numbers the fact that the fight is taking place in Germany probably throws things for a loop for the reasons you mentioned since they don't really have control over the broadcast. If the fight was taking place in the US I think there's a MUCH greater chance that it would have been shown. Of course TV coverage is something that's negotiated from the beginning and there's no way they would he fight in the US without HBO being on board from the start but I guess in this case there's enough money in Germany where he doesn't really need to concern himself with HBO, it's more of an afterthought.
Who cares if people in America want to watch them though?
Wlads last fight had a 61,000 live attendance and was watched in Germany by 13 million people.
His fight with Chambers will draw 50,000 live attendance and will get around 13 million viewers again.
Vitalis fight with Lennox Lewis was watched by a live audience of 5 million people DESPITE it being 5am in Germany.
They make huge amounts of cash,have massive viewing figures from Ukraine/Russia and Germany combined and get bigger live gates than ANY American fighter around.
The fact that Vitali can fight a guy no one has heard of (Kevin Johnson) In a foreign country (Switzerland) and sell out 17,000 tickets before they go on general sale is incredible no matter what anyone says.
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enough said...
It is a shame really 'cause in enjoy their fights....
I love how the Easten Euros on here defend the Klits so much when they actually don't even give a **** about the Ukraine anymore. Vitali consideres Hamburg his hometown now. He's being fake to get all your money
False. Black Americans aren't draws.
Just scroll down the top black American fighters and search at their gates and ratings.
Chambers
Hopkins
Dawson
Cloud
Dirrell
Williams
Kirkland
Mosley
Bradley
These are top fighters struggling to sellout a ****ing 5000 seat arena. Shit the only black American fighters that can actually draw 8000 consistently as the A side is Andre Ward and Mayweather.
and andre only gets that cause he's fighting out of okland his home town
that dude just narrowed minded. klits style aren't what most casul fans apperaicate and harcore fans least some don't care for his style cause wald will go all night witout a KO if he has to
but i like the klits i think they're the best HW's in the division and they'll probaly retire like that
The Klitschko's don't need America. The real reason why they don't hit it off with your everyday Yank on the street is because;
A. They're not American.
B. They're not black.
True Story.
False. Black Americans aren't draws.
Just scroll down the top black American fighters and search at their gates and ratings.
Chambers
Hopkins
Dawson
Cloud
Dirrell
Williams
Kirkland
Mosley
Bradley
These are top fighters struggling to sellout a ****ing 5000 seat arena. Shit the only black American fighters that can actually draw 8000 consistently as the A side is Andre Ward and Mayweather.
It probably has more to do with HBO detesting doing tape-delay fights, and the Klitschko's refusing to do their fights at 4am or whatever in order to facilitate a live feed for American TV. They make enough with the gate and the German TV where they dont really need HBO at all. Must be nice........
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