How good is Paul Williams? (Serious)

2 Days away man!!!!!!!

Pac doesnt even want to fight Foreman because of his height. Williams is 4 inches taller then Foreman for Gods sake. Pac is great but lets not get carried away. Quintana is a SLICK southpaw and hes harder to hit then Pac is. Pac is a lefty but he is not slick or crafty. You fail to mention that Williams didnt properly prepare for that fight and had no lefty sparring. In prep for the rematch his primary sparring partner was Luis Collazo and we seen how that went. Pac doesnt have the boxing skills or the slickness to beat Williams. He will have to sell completly out to get in and even then Williams is stronger then him and a better inside fighter then him and Paul loves to clinch. Why would you say he doesnt have a stamina edge? He has the highest workrate in boxing and never gets tired. Pacquiao looked lost when Cotto, JMM and Erik jabbed him. Williams isnt Winky Wright but he has a good jab that he doubles and triples at times. And where did you get the mythf rom that he doesnt hit hard at WW? Last time he was there he had a first round KO. Like I said Pac didnt want Foreman because of his height what makes you think he wants a guy who would make Foreman look short? I dont see Pac dealing with that jab for 12 rounds. Pac is easy to hit. Williams also is but Williams will NOT stop not even for a second he is relentless. Williams aint gassing out. Williams would beat him pretty easy. Bumpy................

Why do you twist shit around and destort Paul Williams' willingness to face the best? Most guys wouldn't have fought someone as good as Martinez after a fight with someone of Pavlik's stature getting messed up. Dzinziruk hasn't mentioned Paul Williams' name once since he broke away from his promoter. And Williams offered Martinez good money for a rematch and Martinez went in another direction. At least Williams never fights rematches with guys he already beat convincingly unlike your idol Margarito. Lol. Quote from Margarito. "I think I'll turn down this fight with Mosley and wait until June to fight a rematch with Cotto." I know he didn't ultimately. But he almost did. Yeah Williams has taken fights with guys with the style to beat him.

Paul Williams just has physical advantages, if he was the average height, he'd be an average fighter. There is no way in hell he beats Mayweather though. Williams punch output would decrease if he fights Mayweather. Ya against certian fighters people will mention PW's workrate. His stamina and workrate are great strengths for him but for Quintana I he only threw 500 punches, not even 50 per round, due to his footwork and movement. Mayweather, Dzinziruk, Martinez, have the movement to offer similar problems to Williams in order to nullify his output. Lara in 1-2 yrs could present similar problems. I think a rubbermatch vs Quintana could still go either way. I think PW kills Angulo cuz he doesn't have that ability, hes a come forward fighter. Kirkland on the other hand, while being similar to Angulo and PW would simply be too strong for him imo. I'd favour PW over Julio but think Julio has a shot due to his punch.

I highly doubt he will stay at 154. Once someone with a pulse is there he will either move down or up because he doesn't want to "risk" anything. Wait and see. Sorry but I won't dick ride anyone. I know you worship him and shit. So you're ok with a WW to go up to face him? Why don't you say you're ok with him fighting a top Jr. MW? And even worse he will be coming off a loss lol. Why do you twist shit around and destort Paul Williams' willingness to face the best? Most guys wouldn't have fought someone as good as Martinez after a fight with someone of Pavlik's stature getting messed up. Dzinziruk hasn't mentioned Paul Williams' name once since he broke away from his promoter. And Williams offered Martinez good money for a rematch and Martinez went in another direction. At least Williams never fights rematches with guys he already beat convincingly unlike your idol Margarito. Lol. Quote from Margarito. "I think I'll turn down this fight with Mosley and wait until June to fight a rematch with Cotto." I know he didn't ultimately. But he almost did.

He is a very good and exciting fighter, he throws punches in bunches and his stamina is second to none. He does have flaws himself like we have seen with Quintana and Martinez(two southpaws) but he will give anyone nightmares win or lose. I also like his "anytime, anywhere, anyone" attitude, he wants nothing but the best. Hard to dislike fighters with such attitude..

he's not as good as people believes--but he is good--he wouldn't beat floyd for sure---he could beat mosley but mosley would be favored to beat him imo and would imo---pacman could beat him also---i just don't see it---

Pac doesnt even want to fight Foreman because of his height. Williams is 4 inches taller then Foreman for Gods sake. Pac is great but lets not get carried away. Quintana is a SLICK southpaw and hes harder to hit then Pac is. Pac is a lefty but he is not slick or crafty. You fail to mention that Williams didnt properly prepare for that fight and had no lefty sparring. In prep for the rematch his primary sparring partner was Luis Collazo and we seen how that went. Pac doesnt have the boxing skills or the slickness to beat Williams. He will have to sell completly out to get in and even then Williams is stronger then him and a better inside fighter then him and Paul loves to clinch. Why would you say he doesnt have a stamina edge? He has the highest workrate in boxing and never gets tired. Pacquiao looked lost when Cotto, JMM and Erik jabbed him. Williams isnt Winky Wright but he has a good jab that he doubles and triples at times. And where did you get the mythf rom that he doesnt hit hard at WW? Last time he was there he had a first round KO. Like I said Pac didnt want Foreman because of his height what makes you think he wants a guy who would make Foreman look short? I dont see Pac dealing with that jab for 12 rounds. Pac is easy to hit. Williams also is but Williams will NOT stop not even for a second he is relentless. Williams aint gassing out. Williams would beat him pretty easy. How do you think Pwills chin would hold up to Pac power though? You said yourself he gets hit alot, I dnt think his chin is that solid and letting someone like Pac land on you at will isnt good for anyone. On the other hand I also think Pac could take Pwill shots better that Pwill would take Pacs. Whats your thoughts?

Question to Burner. You don't think Freddie could give Pac a gameplan to beat Williams in the mould of the ODLH fight? Stick and move, quick combos and get out? Tell me one thing Quintana does better than Pacquiao, just one thing. Pacquiao has the edge in Speed,power, angles, boxing skills. Williams only really has height and length over him, he doesn't even have a stamina edge over Pac. Pac doesnt even want to fight Foreman because of his height. Williams is 4 inches taller then Foreman for Gods sake. Pac is great but lets not get carried away. Quintana is a SLICK southpaw and hes harder to hit then Pac is. Pac is a lefty but he is not slick or crafty. You fail to mention that Williams didnt properly prepare for that fight and had no lefty sparring. In prep for the rematch his primary sparring partner was Luis Collazo and we seen how that went. Pac doesnt have the boxing skills or the slickness to beat Williams. He will have to sell completly out to get in and even then Williams is stronger then him and a better inside fighter then him and Paul loves to clinch. Why would you say he doesnt have a stamina edge? He has the highest workrate in boxing and never gets tired. Pacquiao looked lost when Cotto, JMM and Erik jabbed him. Williams isnt Winky Wright but he has a good jab that he doubles and triples at times. And where did you get the mythf rom that he doesnt hit hard at WW? Last time he was there he had a first round KO. Like I said Pac didnt want Foreman because of his height what makes you think he wants a guy who would make Foreman look short? I dont see Pac dealing with that jab for 12 rounds. Pac is easy to hit. Williams also is but Williams will NOT stop not even for a second he is relentless. Williams aint gassing out. Williams would beat him pretty easy.

Question to Burner. You don't think Freddie could give Pac a gameplan to beat Williams in the mould of the ODLH fight? Stick and move, quick combos and get out? Tell me one thing Quintana does better than Pacquiao, just one thing. Pacquiao has the edge in Speed,power, angles, boxing skills. Williams only really has height and length over him, he doesn't even have a stamina edge over Pac. His answer will probably be "P4P Top 10. 38-1"

Paul Williams just has physical advantages, if he was the average height, he'd be an average fighter. There is no way in hell he beats Mayweather though. Williams punch output would decrease if he fights Mayweather.

Question to Burner. You don't think Freddie could give Pac a gameplan to beat Williams in the mould of the ODLH fight? Stick and move, quick combos and get out? Tell me one thing Quintana does better than Pacquiao, just one thing. Pacquiao has the edge in Speed,power, angles, boxing skills. Williams only really has height and length over him, he doesn't even have a stamina edge over Pac.

I get it . Williams is a D class fighter who will never win a another fight. If he was such a bum they wouldve fought him by now. You are missing the point everything this discussion is brought up between the two of us. People aren't scared to face Pwilliams, its just a waste of time, especially since Williams hasn't established a name for himself. He was on his way by beating Margartio but then he lost and looked like complete sh!t against Carlos Quintana. Why would shane Fight him when he has huge fights in Pacquiao and Mayweather. Hell it even makes more since (money wise) for Shane to rematch Cotto and Margarito at this point in his career. Why would Floyd face him when Pacquiao is the only thing on his mind. Why would Pavlik go 50-50 with willliams when Kelly's fan base craps on pwill's 10 or so fans, not to mention he will bring the most money to the table. I mean I could go on but I think you get the point.

Nah that crazy. Hes a B+/A- fighter. Hes just not on the level with a Pac/Floyd right now. Not saying he'll never be but he isnt at this point. But then again who is ya know. Im pumped up for the Cintron fight though.

I get it . Williams is a D class fighter who will never win a another fight. If he was such a bum they wouldve fought him by now. Nah that crazy. Hes a B+/A- fighter. Hes just not on the level with a Pac/Floyd right now. Not saying he'll never be but he isnt at this point.

I bet That burner also have Williams beating Trinidad, Hearns and Leonard!! Hell, a prime oscar KTFO too He loses all 4 fights. Just like Cotto does.

Maybe. If he punches Williams with one good hit, its lights out. Williams will most likely outwork him ala Margarito and make him cry again. Sergei, Kirkland, Martinez. Perro, maybe or maybe not. Pavlik can beat him as well at 160. I think he will stay at 154 and actually try to establish his name at ONE weight class now. Hes going to beat Cintron up pretty bad. Then watch how these forums explode and start dikk riding him. After Cintron im down for Mosley at 154. Because Shane is getting fukked up by Mayweather.

Shane dissagrees with you. "I will fight anyone but him...our styles dont match up well" Shane Mosley Shane was on the level where he was looking for big money fights only (which is why he has turned down Berto in the past). When you put in the type of work Mosley has then you have earned the right to. FWIW Mosley knew Forrest was a horrible style matchup for him as well as Winky. He still fought them because Mosley is just that type of fighter. At this point he is better than fighting unkown guys especially since he wont be fighting much longer and wants to get as much money as he can right now.

and in each one of those instances those are about the best things that could ever happen to Paul Willams career. I get it . Williams is a D class fighter who will never win a another fight. If he was such a bum they wouldve fought him by now.

Mosley turned him down. Floyd will never fight him. He signed to Pavlik twice. And Pavlik is not elite. Dzindiruk will get his tune up then Paul will fight him hopefully. He is not elite either. and in each one of those instances those are about the best things that could ever happen to Paul Willams career.