Background? also i know both julo cesar chavez jr and wilfredo vasquez jr had no amateur back ground but because of who there farther's were they have been looked after by top promoters and left to learn there trade against stiffs so they dont count
Most fighters with great amateur backgrounds don't become champions so I would say yes and sometimes the amateur boxing ways can mess a fighter up for instance amateur fighters are always jumping around and never learn to sit on their punches which you will need to do when you become a professional! you can't always out box a fighter and you will be hit unlike the amateurs where you're used to wearing a headgear. Professional boxing is way different than amateur boxing but its good to have some amateur fights just to learn the basics of boxing!!!
No your talking shit. Cintron's build has nothing to do with him being a big puncher, he was born a puncher.
Punchers are born not made. You need to learn more about the sport.
Punchers are made not born. perhaps you are the one that needs to learn more about the sport.
the idea that punchers are made and not born comes from people who dont box and boxers so obsessed with them self's that despite having spent 10 years training they seem to forget about having spent that time training
did pacman have a ameture background? I know he started pro at 16.
idt you need an ametur background b/c if you can fight you can fight. You might get babied for ur first 20+ fights but you can still make it big. You just gonna have to make a believer out of people. I know he not a boxer but look at kimbo.
I think that amateur boxing is becoming less and less useful for boxers intending to go pro.
Modern Amateur boxing uses, develops and rewards a different skill set than what professional boxers use. Head hunting, pop shooting for the "clean points" and where body shots RARELY get a fighter points. Look at the current champions and how many of them have the style to be top amateurs.
Now if you look at the past Amateur boxing was very similar to pro boxing and was a better stepping stone and preparation for the pro's.
Just look at Hearns vs Pryor Amateur fight and then look at any of the medal fights of these past Olympics and its quite clear.
Did you not get the thin memo I said? And yes, a body frame can get you power. Tell Hearns and Julian Jackson that ir doesn't and they'd laugh.Or tell Tyson his short compact frame didn't help his punching power. Of course punchers come in different shape and sizes, that's what I was saying when mentioning he was thin.
Think about what you type before posting, you got it completely wrong.
No your talking shit. Cintron's build has nothing to do with him being a big puncher, he was born a puncher.
Punchers are born not made. You need to learn more about the sport.
What makes, you think Cintron is physically gifted? He's not really tall for his weight, he's pretty average height, not really big legs, and average shoulders.
Are you kidding me Cintron is huge for a guy to make 147, I met him at BB Kings and couldnt believe how big he was. Hes very physically gifted, and has the perfect built for a fighter. His shoulders are far from average.
Hes naturally strong, Steward even said, normally he wouldnt work with a guy who didnt have much experience but he was so impressed by Cintron's athletic ability watching him play ball he wanted to work with him.
No a body frame dosent get you power. Punchers are born NOT MADE.
Punchers come in all different shape and sizes. And it has nothing to do with what type of build you have.
If punching power, came down to Physical attributes, then why isn't Valuev a big puncher?
Did you not get the thin memo I said? And yes, a body frame can get you power. Tell Hearns and Julian Jackson that ir doesn't and they'd laugh.Or tell Tyson his short compact frame didn't help his punching power. Of course punchers come in different shape and sizes, that's what I was saying when mentioning he was thin.
Think about what you type before posting, you got it completely wrong.
His body frame is what gets him all that power. Seeing him in the streets you wouldn't know he could probably knock out a lot of ppl because he's thin.
No a body frame dosent get you power. Punchers are born NOT MADE.
Punchers come in all different shape and sizes. And it has nothing to do with what type of build you have.
If punching power, came down to Physical attributes, then why isn't Valuev a big puncher?
What makes, you think Cintron is physically gifted? He's not really tall for his weight, he's pretty average height, not really big legs, and average shoulders.
His body frame is what gets him all that power. Seeing him in the streets you wouldn't know he could probably knock out a lot of ppl because he's thin.
I think with Cintron he is refering to his strength and power.
I assumed he was talking about his height, reach, build. Which is what physical actually means.
I think you have to be physically gifted in most cases. Guys like Cintron and P. Will had very little amateur experience but both of them are insanely physically gifted.
I think it's possible for non-physically gifted people too, but you would have to engulf yourself in the sport for years. Your life would have to revolve around it.
What makes, you think Cintron is physically gifted? He's not really tall for his weight, he's pretty average height, not really big legs, and average shoulders.
I think you have to be physically gifted in most cases. Guys like Cintron and P. Will had very little amateur experience but both of them are insanely physically gifted.
I think it's possible for non-physically gifted people too, but you would have to engulf yourself in the sport for years. Your life would have to revolve around it.
Dude, my 5 year old could do that.Haha. The right punch... Most ppl the same size can probably do that with the right punch.
I know. Skill isn't everything in boxing. Many unpolished fighters find ways to win without being better than their opponents. I'm not saying these guys have higher or as high odds of becoming successful in the sport. Just in the context of the thread question, no, you do not need to be a great amateur to become a successful pro.
Of course it is. I know guys who could KO the best fighters in the world right now if they landed the right punch. Skill development is a huge factor but not the be all end all. You can go pro and win fights and even become a champion without necessarily being a good boxer with fundamentals.
Dude, my 5 year old could do that.Haha. The right punch... Most ppl the same size can probably do that with the right punch.
Of course it is. I know guys who could KO the best fighters in the world right now if they landed the right punch. Skill development is a huge factor but not the be all end all. You can go pro and win fights and even become a champion without necessarily being a good boxer with fundamentals.
Yes, ask Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. I mean, I'm sure you won't get fed stiffs to build up your career since you lack a legendary father on your side, but don't worry. Go for it! If you survive more than 10 pro fights, I'd say your a natural :P