Can we put the Mayweather PPV king arguements to rest?

Why does this even matter?

Mayweather PPV KING

You're contradicting yourself all over the place. If there was no buzz for his fights people wouldn't buy them or attend the press conferences. And you are using a ring entrance as an example of what makes a star. That speaks for itself. Trinidad was not a universal star. When did he ever sell a huge fight without a dance partner? Talk about delusions. I'm done with this stupid topic. come on man really tito wasn't even from the states and he sold out arenas, Floyd couldn't even sell out in his home. What i mean with buzz is no one left a damn tyson fight or oscar fight, people peace out with floyd cause dude well can be boring as ****. Yeah floyd needs a dance partner too biggest ppv for him oscar de la hoya and ricky hatton. Those are two good dance partners. Also you go to puerto rico and ask about tito no one will say nothing bad bout duke cause he's loved. You come to the states and ask people about floyd u might get a answer of "who, o the guy that pacquiao might fight" or might get a answer of can't stand the guy. Floyd is not a superstar sorry he isn't floyd fans he is no beloved by the public most of the writers and boxing fans cant stand him cause he's a jerk. Tito well beloved by a whole country. Buh Bye

Just stop with the ignorant and misinformed hype. Muhammad Ali was on the cover of TIME more than once. Other fighters like Jack Dempsey, Joe Frazier, Mike Tyson also made the cover. Hell, even Gerry Cooney and the fictitious "Rocky" made the cover of TIME. Just stop. And Pacquiao weas on the cover of the Asian edition of TIME. Of course he is more popular in Asian countries. Thanks for the info. :) Just shows you how LITTLE Pac fans know. So Pac is my favorite fighter? lol

Not saying he doesn't sell fights i can't argue that. But to me the ppv kings will always be dlh and tyson, doesn't even matter that their not fighting anymore. When those two fought there was a buzz huge buzz when money fights I don't get that feeling from casual fans. But if you told a casual fan that tyson was fighting a cat their going to buy it no matter what. MOney does get numbers what i'm trying to say is dude doesn't bring the same buzz or atmosphere to a fight he needs help to do that. You want to know what star is check hou tito trinidad entrance coming into the garden against anyone. Thats a star, money can't do that sorry mayweather fanatics your fighter is not a superstar he is not beloved like most of you believe PERIOD You're contradicting yourself all over the place. If there was no buzz for his fights people wouldn't buy them or attend the press conferences. And you are using a ring entrance as an example of what makes a star. That speaks for itself. Trinidad was not a universal star. When did he ever sell a huge fight without a dance partner? Talk about delusions. I'm done with this stupid topic.

What's so hard to understand? Floyd is the cash cow and Manny is more popular than Floyd. I think he was the first boxer in history to be on the cover of TIME magazine. Manny is more popular than Floyd outside the ring. Just stop with the ignorant and misinformed hype. Muhammad Ali was on the cover of TIME more than once. Other fighters like Jack Dempsey, Joe Frazier, Mike Tyson also made the cover. Hell, even Gerry Cooney and the fictitious "Rocky" made the cover of TIME. Just stop. And Pacquiao weas on the cover of the Asian edition of TIME. Of course he is more popular in Asian countries.

That was after De La Hoya, Mayweather-Gatti was before De La Hoya. Unlike you, I couldn't give shit about who's the bigger draw, but the fact is Mayweather is the bigger draw. If Pacquiao-Clottey does 1 million, then you can argue something. Because Mayweather-Mosley is gonna sell 1.5 and Mosley doesn't even have a fan base. now your making excuses. i'll use it on you. The Pac-JMM was also before the Pac-dlh and in much lighter weight class. Who you think is a draw Gatti or the 130 lbs JMM? Floyd-JMM 1M PPV, Pac-Cotto 1.3M same weight class...JMM's top PPV before the fights was 450K with the Pac fight. Cotto's top was with the Cheato fight at 500K, So no excuses... Pac outdraws PBF...PBF was...Pac's top PPv draw now!!

and how much ppv does gatti-pbf generate at 140? 400k? pac-hatton at 140 sold almost 900k, it's still the hightest ppv numbers 140 and below. higher than dlh & pbf numbers at the same wt class. That was after De La Hoya, Mayweather-Gatti was before De La Hoya. Unlike you, I couldn't give shit about who's the bigger draw, but the fact is Mayweather is the bigger draw. If Pacquiao-Clottey does 1 million, then you can argue something. Because Mayweather-Mosley is gonna sell 1.5 and Mosley doesn't even have a fan base.

It doesn't matter idiot. It's about popularity, not ****ing weight classes cunt. Nice 135 lb. cutoff, as if the 5 pounds above, where he fought Gatti (@140), is enough to make a difference in what the 'average American' thinks. Heavyweight is the only weight class with that type of stigma. and how much ppv does gatti-pbf generate at 140? 400k? pac-hatton at 140 sold almost 900k, it's still the hightest ppv numbers 140 and below. higher than dlh & pbf numbers at the same wt class.

Floyd is the biggest draw. PERIOD.He's the biggest draw in boxing, but he's not the most popular boxer right now.

What's so hard to understand? Floyd is the cash cow and Manny is more popular than Floyd. Time Magazine Asian edition. He hasn't sniffed the cover of the US version.I think he was the first boxer in history to be on the cover of TIME magazine. Manny is more popular than Floyd outside the ring.

Floyd is the current biggest draw in boxing, but Manny is the biggest name in boxing. Floyd sells more PPVs and knows how to market a fight. Pacquiao is more popular than Floyd outside the ring and more well know to people who don't watch boxing. wtf? You don't have to be the biggest name in boxing to be the biggest draw. More people know who Manny is than Floyd or any other current boxer. Manny has been on TIME magazine and has done other things that most boxers don't get to do. How many boxers have multi-million dollar endorsement deals? Floyd is the biggest draw, but Manny is more popular. Floyd has better PPV numbers because his fans and the haters pay to see his fights. more like ppl pay him to see him lose because after the big hype up againts dlh, it became like a balareena show. then shit started to slow down in terms of ppv sales. next show for floyd was againts hatton, both were hyped up to lose their 0. 1mill down from 2.5 mill and dont get me started with Marquez. He sells more than your favorite fighter. Deal with it. Because his an American. someone mentioned Flooyd coudnt sell out his hometown,>/?

Different weight Classes moron. Average Americans dont care about the Lightweight & below. Just Check DLH's number at 135 & Below?? It's comparable to pac's number. Your Floyd doesnt even have one PPV numbers at those weight Classes. It doesn't matter idiot. It's about popularity, not ****ing weight classes cunt. Nice 135 lb. cutoff, as if the 5 pounds above, where he fought Gatti (@140), is enough to make a difference in what the 'average American' thinks. Heavyweight is the only weight class with that type of stigma.

You don't have to be the biggest name in boxing to be the biggest draw. More people know who Manny is than Floyd or any other current boxer. Manny has been on TIME magazine and has done other things that most boxers don't get to do. How many boxers have multi-million dollar endorsement deals? Floyd is the biggest draw, but Manny is more popular. Floyd has better PPV numbers because his fans and the haters pay to see his fights. Time Magazine Asian edition. He hasn't sniffed the cover of the US version.

This thread is stupid. Floyd pre-Oscar wasn't that big. Exactly like Pacquiao pre-Oscar couldn't draw shit either. Pac/Clottey is a terrible comparison to May/Baldo

Why do people like to argue about this shit so much? You have to respect Mayweather's position as the #1 draw in boxing right now. Floyd against (guys who'd never been on ppv) Gatti, Judah, and Baldomir averaged just as much as the Pacquiao-Morales trilogy. Mayweather against Baldomir before De La Hoya sold 325K, Pacquiao against Diaz before De La Hoya sold 225K (I compare those because they're similar opponents). Unless you're getting a piece from future negotiations, just drop it and accept it. Different weight Classes moron. Average Americans dont care about the Lightweight & below. Just Check DLH's number at 135 & Below?? It's comparable to pac's number. Your Floyd doesnt even have one PPV numbers at those weight Classes.

Why do people like to argue about this shit so much? You have to respect Mayweather's position as the #1 draw in boxing right now. Floyd against (guys who'd never been on ppv) Gatti, Judah, and Baldomir averaged just as much as the Pacquiao-Morales trilogy. Mayweather against Baldomir before De La Hoya sold 325K, Pacquiao against Diaz before De La Hoya sold 225K (I compare those because they're similar opponents). Unless you're getting a piece from future negotiations, just drop it and accept it.

He sells more than your favorite fighter. Deal with it.

That's just contradictory. You don't have to be the biggest name in boxing to be the biggest draw. More people know who Manny is than Floyd or any other current boxer. Manny has been on TIME magazine and has done other things that most boxers don't get to do. How many boxers have multi-million dollar endorsement deals? Floyd is the biggest draw, but Manny is more popular. Floyd has better PPV numbers because his fans and the haters pay to see his fights.

Or who doesn't want to take random drug test thats not required by nsac. floyd only ask for it after pac agreed to fight him. floyd chicken out.