Mayweather Jr. "He said he don't like needles and he got a 1000 tattoos"

@Ray I'll be waiting for your response on my example. I have'nt go into rich countries such as UK and US and let me know how that scenario will look like in your area. I really dont care who brought up steroids, When you achieve great things in sport people would look at you in a suspicious way, Especially individual sports because in this day and age athletes are smart especially with all the new drug available to them that could make them better. Again i have nothing against Pac, I love his fights and style and am proud for you to look at all my previous post in the last 4 years and see if i ever picked against Pac against JMM (2), Diaz, De la hoya, Hatton or cotto but i dont see any reason why a top pro athlete would want to dodge a random test if he's clean, Whats more shocking is people in 2010 saying a random test for both boxers is "BASELESS DEMAND". Like i said before in my own country when you achieve something great in sport(Individual) people would look at you suspicious and its up to you to prove them wrong, Its suspicious when you say i have never failed a test before but when you're asked to do random you want a cut off date. Pac is lucky that boxing isnt mainstream and that his rival (Mayweather) is not really liked in the media because if Manny was a guy the media didnt like and Mayweather was loved and boxing was mainstream he would have been teared up by now. And am glad you are trying to discuss this in a mature way.

@Ray I'll be waiting for your response on my example. I have'nt go into rich countries such as UK and US and let me know how that scenario will look like in your area.

But the "extra testing" thingy came due to loudmouth Sr who's spreading the rumors and if we use common sense - envy, jealousy, ruined Pac, nullify Pac's achievement, more marketability for the accusers, have all the advantage if fight pushes through, etc. are the reasons why these rumors came out. s. Only people on this forum and other forums would even know about Mayweather Sr's. comments. Everyone else sees it as Manny as not taking a test

Who d hell will still believe this guy?? http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u334/ervinMA/jr.jpg Well afaik majority of Boxing fans, Boxing Commentators, Boxing Analysts and Boxing Historians dont take this guy seriously. Fraud Jr is known as the biggest ducker in boxing history rofl.

This link is bullshit.

I couldnt care less which country an athlete is from , Asking the whole field to be tested in a contract isnt what i called spreading rumours, Maybe thats the case in laos but not certainly in the UK. If Usain bolt is breaking all those sprint record and some or one of his competitor says can we all get tested randomly in our next race and Usain bolt says NO i need a cut off date when i would look at him like he had something to hide, Its just common-sense.. But the "extra testing" thingy came due to loudmouth Sr who's spreading the rumors and if we use common sense - envy, jealousy, ruined Pac, nullify Pac's achievement, more marketability for the accusers, have all the advantage if fight pushes through, etc. are the reasons why these rumors came out. ##################### ##################### If we're both an ordinary neighbor and you accuse me (take note you just accuse me, you still have no evidence to prove) that I'm a drug addict and you demand that I'll be tested for drug use and be sent to rehabilitation center, what do you think I should do? Maybe in US and UK, the accuse person should just go for the testing. But here in Philippines, especially in rural areas, a BIG NO because agreeing to your demands could mean already that I'm guilty. Yes, I'm GUILTY IF I AGREE TO YOUR BASELESS DEMANDS - and that's what we believe here. And I think it's not the same in US or UK, right? And what could be the consequences for your baseless allegations? In US and in UK, I think the accused will just agree to your demands to prove that he's really clean, right? But in Philippines, there are options that I can do: if I have an extra money, then there's a lawsuit for you if I'm poor and the damage on me is not that bad, I can remain silent all throughout hoping that you'll end your allegations on me if I'm poor and the damage is high, I will just smile on you every time we met while I'm already preparing these things: a little modified motorcyle helmet fully loaded gun then I can wait even for years until you have troubled or quarreled with other person. Once you found trouble with any other person, I'll wait for another month and use those things above on you. if I have an extra money, then there's a lawsuit for you but ultimately you'll end up on me on #3. if I'm poor, I would never bow on your demands and I challenge you to prove any evidence, not in the court. But you'll still end up with #3 one of these days. And AFAIK (according to the locals) in Laos, if you really have no evidence on your allegations then lucky me bec. the government will be after you and prepare your human rights to be nullified. Ohh, it's not applicable because there's no millions involve? Look at the poor farmer example. We have different principle, culture, beliefs, etc. as what I have already mentioned. If having a Sign Of A Cross before every round in boxing doesn't mean anything to some boxers, it means a lot to many others. If a color green in US means XXX, it means YYY in China and means ZZZ in Philippines.

If it is how it works in the US, then it's not always be the case in other countries, in this case, Philippines. If you can watch all porn in the US, NOT in Laos!!! See my point now? Here's another example: A poor farmer inherited a lot from his grandpa's grandpa and told to take care of it no matter what happened. Then a businessman tried to purchase the lot and offered a 100 thousand, the farmer refused. 500 thousand, 1 million, 5 million, 10 million offer....... If you're a poor US farmer, what would you do? I bet you'll let it go for 100 thousand. But it's not the case for some Pinoy poor farmers, even if it will led to burned and death. Sounds crazy isn't it? But it's happening in the Philippines, past and present. See again my point now or you will call me crazy? If spreading false rumors are just fine in US, let the Mayweathers come and do it in Laos. Let's see how they will pickup their teeth (coming from their loudmouths) from the ground. All I'm saying is Pac and the Mayweathers live in different country, culture and beliefs. If you are accused and it's your burden to prove that your clean, in the US, it's always not the case in the Philippines. Agreeing to the demand of the accuser, in Philippines, sometimes is treated that you are guilty. Also, can I have your views on my post above? I couldnt care less which country an athlete is from , Asking the whole field to be tested in a contract isnt what i called spreading rumours, Maybe thats the case in laos but not certainly in the UK. If Usain bolt is breaking all those sprint record and some or one of his competitor says can we all get tested randomly in our next race and Usain bolt says NO i need a cut off date when i would look at him like he had something to hide, Its just common-sense..

I like Pac and all but when top athlete refuse a random drug test then i would alway look at him like he has something to hide. If it is how it works in the US, then it's not always be the case in other countries, in this case, Philippines. If you can watch all porn in the US, NOT in Laos!!! See my point now? Here's another example: A poor farmer inherited a lot from his grandpa's grandpa and told to take care of it no matter what happened. Then a businessman tried to purchase the lot and offered a 100 thousand, the farmer refused. 500 thousand, 1 million, 5 million, 10 million offer....... If you're a poor US farmer, what would you do? I bet you'll let it go for 100 thousand. But it's not the case for some Pinoy poor farmers, even if it will led to burned and death. Sounds crazy isn't it? But it's happening in the Philippines, past and present. See again my point now or you will call me crazy? If spreading false rumors are just fine in US, let the Mayweathers come and do it in Laos. Let's see how they will pickup their teeth (coming from their loudmouths) from the ground. All I'm saying is Pac and the Mayweathers live in different country, culture and beliefs. If you are accused and it's your burden to prove that your clean, in the US, it's always not the case in the Philippines. Agreeing to the demand of the accuser, in Philippines, sometimes is treated that you are guilty. Also, can I have your views on my post above?

I like Pac and all but when top athlete refuse a random drug test then i would alway look at him like he has something to hide.

Man, I'm not a huge Mayweather fan, but that's bullshit. Shawn Porter's dad/trainer, who was with Roach and Pacquiao everyday was supposedly saying that Roach wanted more time because it wasn't gonna be enough to teach Pacquiao how to decipher Mayweather's style. That to me says all I need to know. That poster was being sarcastic. :banana:

get off this shit already

I agree. Floyd was not ready to fight Pacquiao, he's just not that strong mentally. He backed away from taking the random blood testing, why would he backed away from the test drug testing procedure in the US? Floyd is a fraud. Man, I'm not a huge Mayweather fan, but that's bullshit. Shawn Porter's dad/trainer, who was with Roach and Pacquiao everyday was supposedly saying that Roach wanted more time because it wasn't gonna be enough to teach Pacquiao how to decipher Mayweather's style. That to me says all I need to know.

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/player?rd=1#/podcenter/?id=4918151&***********&callsign=ESPNRADIO "You're not just ordinary and then become extraordinary." "Why eave 8 figures on the table to go back and make 7 figures?" "If you're clean, why they can't get you whenever?" "If Manny Pacquiao's a clean athlete, he has nothing to hide, take the test." Truth. Has. Been. Spoken. Floyd's shit-eaters on the move lol

It's nothing new. Some U.S. citizens are allegations addict. Look at IRAQ now! The "WE BELIEVE" thingy brings misery on their life now. Don't try to force all your culture on us, 'coz many were already.... Next time, we'll be reading that a Pinoy Grandpa has metal bars on his arm (or PEDs again) and it's the reason why being awarded as USBMA Best Pool Player of the Decade. :wtf1: But history told that Johnny Archer is not the same as the Mayweathers... Oh, I think I'm drunk because I'm telling the truth :bigeyes:

"you're not just ordinary and then become extraordinary." Don't you guys think that the more Mayweather say this, the more he looks like a fool, coward, and in denial about his own ability??? Seriously, he can state his other theories about Pac's use of PEDs, but that's ok since nobody really knows the truth...BUT, Floyd should stop saying the phrase above because it only shows that he admits Pac is 'extraordinary' and what if Pac was cleared of all PED use, olympic style, or whatever the drug test demand was? Then Floyd is proven he was really scared to fight Pacman, because he kept stating his denial of Pac being 'extraordinary'.

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/player?rd=1#/podcenter/?id=4918151&***********&callsign=espnradio "you're not just ordinary and then become extraordinary." "why eave 8 figures on the table to go back and make 7 figures?" "if you're clean, why they can't get you whenever?" "if manny pacquiao's a clean athlete, he has nothing to hide, take the test." manny pacquiao has never seen a contract he didn't like!!!

needles were baseless, it didn't came from pac. you whats fact. Floyd is making all the excuses to make get out the fight, he was the person who backed out. The only way I see floyd taking a fight with pac is when he has a better chance in winning maybe make pacquiao fat or wait until he turns 40 years old. I agree. Floyd was not ready to fight Pacquiao, he's just not that strong mentally. He backed away from taking the random blood testing, why would he backed away from the test drug testing procedure in the US? Floyd is a fraud.

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/player?rd=1#/podcenter/?id=4918151&***********&callsign=ESPNRADIO "You're not just ordinary and then become extraordinary." well he has, hasn't he? "Why eave 8 figures on the table to go back and make 7 figures?" coz he's already loaded n gonna go back to Philippines like a fukin king "If you're clean, why they can't get you whenever?" check the vid of him explaining after morales lose, buy it or not that's his reason "If Manny Pacquiao's a clean athlete, he has nothing to hide, take the test." if you wanna fight pac do the normal test that normal boxers do or go to the commission n push for olympic test to b the norm That's my response in pacs favour but I'm un biased n favour either really just wanna see the fight!

It's good he's beating it to death. It's his life on the line, not yours. And maybe some of you fans don't like hearing the truth but I, for one, am glad he's pounding it into your head that the so-called "good guy" is bashing people's skulls under the influence of PEDs. And so are many others.

:boxing::bottle:nxt topic pls. this is tiring