Why is Kelly Staphlik fighting a Junior Middleweight?

that was at 168......and after pavlik ended mirandas punch resistance... True Miranda is shot.

FYI, Abraham won the fight and knocked him out in the rematch-You just got destroyed. that was at 168......and after pavlik ended mirandas punch resistance...

I never understood the beef with someone fighting out of their weight class. I mean back in the day people never complained of such things. I see nothing wrong with someone moving up weight to fight as long as its not ridiculous. Remember when there really wasn't all these weight classes...well I actually don't because I'm young but come on. Sergio was fit enough for middleweight anyway obviously cause he won the fight. I don't know what this thread became I am just disagreeing with the TS.

Kingsley Ikeke Shannon Taylor Kofi Jantuah Edison Miranda Sebastian Demers Khoren Gevor Wayne Elcock Elvin Ayala Edison Miranda Raul Marquez Lajuan Simon Majir Oral This is who Arthur Abraham fought as a MW champion. His only win Edison Miranda, broke his jaw and he needed a hometown decision in his first fight against him. Pavlik ended Miranda's career. STANDARDS STANDARDS Don't bother replying back, you just got destroyed. FYI, Abraham won the fight and knocked him out in the rematch-You just got destroyed.

Marco Antonio Rubio is a middleweight. http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=116364&cat=boxer Did you really just Marco Antonio Rubio in here and claim he's relevant? Give me a BREAK.

Rubio was a light middleweight who moved up. He lost at 154 to Zaurbek Baysangurov. he hasn't fought at 154 since 2006-09-23 according to boxrec

how is pavlik scared when hes fighting the guy that beat up paul williams?:owned:

Marco Antonio Rubio is a middleweight. http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=116364&cat=boxer

Kelly brought all this bullshit on himself. It's obvious he lost confidence after his first lost, doesn't want anything to do with P Will. You got Sturm, Sylvester, Macklin, Simms, and Gevor....After Martinez, these would be good people to fight instead of trashcans. Pirog is a mandatory and Golovkin is rated #1 in both orgs Pavlik has belt for i believe. Are you fukking stupid? Taylor fought Hopkins twice and Winky. Mayweather fought Oscar at 154 and is fighting Mosley. Taylors sting of defenses against Ouma, Spinks, & Winky were widley criticized and rightfully so. The fact that he fought 3 natural 154lbs and lost to Winky, arguably lost to Spinks and unimpressivly beat Ouma.....then the Pavlik fight. Guy never won a non controversial, clear cut victory while at the top of 160, even with a string of gimme defences.

That junior middleweight gave Williams (the man everyone wants Pavlik to fight) one of the toughest fights of his career. I even had Martinez winning, actually, but it could've gone either way.

Kingsley Ikeke Shannon Taylor Kofi Jantuah Edison Miranda Sebastian Demers Khoren Gevor Wayne Elcock Elvin Ayala Edison Miranda Raul Marquez Lajuan Simon Majir Oral This is who Arthur Abraham fought as a MW champion. His only win Edison Miranda, broke his jaw and he needed a hometown decision in his first fight against him. Pavlik ended Miranda's career. STANDARDS STANDARDS Don't bother replying back, you just got destroyed. OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH damn my boy just HOED yall:peeright:

KNOCK KNOCK. THIS FIGHT is at 160, not 154... LMAO. He's fighting a JMW in his OWN weight class, not moving down to fight him. How the hell do you know where Valero can fight? We have so many experts here it's hilarious. Bitch im talking in general, how dont you know im not a Martinez fan... Pavlik is defending his title like you said he wasnt.. against Martinez a proven warrior, you sound like a TRUE MARTINEZ FAN upset he's the one doing the moving into a situation where his chin will be chipped off>>>>>>>>> LOL PAVLIK in 5!

So you're giving shit to Kelly for fighting a guy that is moving up 6 pounds. Then you give shit to Kelly for not moving up 8 pounds and fighting in the Super 6? STANDARDS STANDARDS He's giving Kelly shit for never fighting the real middleweight champion, Abraham.

Williams wants 50-50 for a fight with Pavlik. Williams doesn't want any of Pavlik after he got his ass kicked by a 4-week JMW replacement at MW. Actually they tried to fight Staphlik remember? Are you conveniently rewriting history? FYI, Williams won the fight, how is that an ass kicking?

You must be depressed? I love when people fight out of there wieght classes.. because if they can make the weight win or lose it tells you something about what they can do... FMJ beat JMM so in my mind FMJ would beat PAC.. Valero can fight anywhere between 130-140.. Williams 147-160 and there two beast KNOCK KNOCK. THIS FIGHT is at 160, not 154... LMAO. He's fighting a JMW in his OWN weight class, not moving down to fight him. How the hell do you know where Valero can fight? We have so many experts here it's hilarious.

Can anyone tell me when the last time Kelly Staphlik fought a legitimate 160 pounder? Is he just lucky as hell he never got the fight with Abraham or what? How many years can he go without defending his title against a top middleweight? Is anyone else sick of people fighting outside their weight class? You must be depressed? I love when people fight out of there wieght classes.. because if they can make the weight win or lose it tells you something about what they can do... FMJ beat JMM so in my mind FMJ would beat PAC.. Valero can fight anywhere between 130-140.. Williams 147-160 and there two beast

Can anyone tell me when the last time Kelly Staphlik fought a legitimate 160 pounder? Is he just lucky as hell he never got the fight with Abraham or what? How many years can he go without defending his title against a top middleweight? Is anyone else sick of people fighting outside their weight class? Who elase could he fight besides Williams (who wants 50%)? Sturm............ after that i'm at a loss........ It would be good if Mundine decided to step up to the plate........

Kelly brought all this bullshit on himself. It's obvious he lost confidence after his first lost, doesn't want anything to do with P Will. You got Sturm, Sylvester, Macklin, Simms, and Gevor....After Martinez, these would be good people to fight instead of trashcans.

Castillejo is a good fighter and he did avenge the loss later but it is a knock against him. I just wish he would come over to the U.S and give it another shot, DLH was a massive name and there was alot on the line. I don't think many ppl thought this unknown German kid would have gave Oscar a boxing lesson like he did. Still he has no one but himself to blame that he is not regarded among Martinez, PWill, and Pavlik......if he even cares that he is not. Castillejo is good, but not great. The expectations that people had for Sturm after the ODLH fight were a lot more than someone who could conceivably lose to Castillejo. The avenged loss was a close decision too. I totally don't blame him for not coming to the US. He got screwed by our judges, hard. He's making a ton of cash staying in Germany, so I really don't blame him at all. The biggest problem I have with him is turning down 5 million Euros to fight Abraham. I can't see any reason to turn down that kind of money.

Even though I like Strum as a boxer, its funny how he has had a belt before any of these 3 fighters in question were even relevant on the world class scene and still has the same strap he has held for a few years now but no one outside of hardcore fans even knows who he is. He kicked Oscar's ass on PPV. He's probably more of a household name than you'd think. Anyway, one thing that really makes me think less of Sturm is getting KO'd by Javier Castillejo. That's just instant career death.