Do you think that dealing with a cut is something that is Packy's weakness?

I invented "Packy". :nonono: And "pactard"... :nonono: I'm your secret admirer so I had to copy your style. :fing02:

It didn't look like Valero got cut last night. It looked like he got shot in the head and he kept on coming.

No, I would never say that Pac. lost because of the cut. He simple lost because Morales was the better fighter that night. The cut had nothing to do with it as he fought his heart out from start to finish. Morales was just the better man...no excuses. JMM had a hellva round in the 8th with out doubt he didn't give Pacquiao a chance to recover, and with blood streaming in the eye; along with Marquez tagging the shit out of him, didn't make things easy for him to regain his composure. The Sanchez fight: Sanchez used his head a lot in that fight, he deserved that DQ. Pacquiao has no quit in him. If you need prove look know further then the Morales and Marquez fights, he never quit....discouraged...more then likely...but he never quit fighting. Sanchez-Pac was a draw and no DQ. I see someone needs to take a history lesson. :chairshot

Pac has no quit in him. But Valero made me fan of his tonight. He is the real deal. Is he promoted by Top Rank? I hope so Yeah he is, after De La Hoya's camp treated him like crap.

Pac has no quit in him. But Valero made me fan of his tonight. He is the real deal. Is he promoted by Top Rank? I hope so

my first time seeing Valero get a cut OMFG valero ATG woulda K.O. all of them sarcasm

All of Pacs cuts have been in the worst places. Over the eye. Pac fought Morales with one eye shut since the blood kept going into it when he opened it. That is heart.

He was up against better boxers. Moralles and Marquez shouldn't be mentioned in the same post as Valero.

I guess the question I am trying to ask is do you think Valero shows more heart than Packy when he sees his own blood? I've seen instances of where Packy will get cut and he behaves kind of like Juan Diaz in that regard. I thought he showed heart in the first Morales fight. But even the most rabid Packy fan will tell you that the reason that he lost was because of the cut. And anyone remember of where JMM cut him over his eye in the eight round of the second fight and JMM dominated him in that round and it seemed like Packy hardly fought back after getting tagged. That is where Joe Chavez played the role of an outstanding cut man because he got that gash under control. And I've never seen the Sanchez-Packy fight. But people say that Packy took the easy way out in that one. No, I would never say that Pac. lost because of the cut. He simple lost because Morales was the better fighter that night. The cut had nothing to do with it as he fought his heart out from start to finish. Morales was just the better man...no excuses. JMM had a hellva round in the 8th with out doubt he didn't give Pacquiao a chance to recover, and with blood streaming in the eye; along with Marquez tagging the shit out of him, didn't make things easy for him to regain his composure. The Sanchez fight: Sanchez used his head a lot in that fight, he deserved that DQ. Pacquiao has no quit in him. If you need prove look know further then the Morales and Marquez fights, he never quit....discouraged...more then likely...but he never quit fighting.

Nate campbell might have fainted with that kind of cut..:fingersx:

If this is the case he should be a little weary of a clash heads with clottey.

I guess the question I am trying to ask is do you think Valero shows more heart than Packy when he sees his own blood? I've seen instances of where Packy will get cut and he behaves kind of like Juan Diaz in that regard. I thought he showed heart in the first Morales fight. But even the most rabid Packy fan will tell you that the reason that he lost was because of the cut. And anyone remember of where JMM cut him over his eye in the eight round of the second fight and JMM dominated him in that round and it seemed like Packy hardly fought back after getting tagged. That is where Joe Chavez played the role of an outstanding cut man because he got that gash under control. And I've never seen the Sanchez-Packy fight. But people say that Packy took the easy way out in that one. No, I think a cut adversely affects everyone but some people can deal with it better than others. Had the cut been closer to his eye, he would have had more difficultly dealing with it but most of the blood was running down the side of his face.

I don't think strong adverse reactions when cut are necessarily anything to do with a fighter's heart - it can just be a massive distraction for a lot of boxers

valero showed more heart than anyone that cut was nastyyyyyyyyyyy nate cambell woulda fainted