What are better wins for Mayweather:
2007 Cotto ...Top 5 P4Pounder.
2006 Margarito
OR
2010 Mosley....Number 1 WW. P4P Number 3.
2010 Pacman...Fighter of the Decade, P4P Number 1, Number 2 WW.
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so i suppose than castillo is bigger and stronger than margarito?
just say it, i need a laugh right now
TWO different weight classes.
Castillo is LIGHT YEARS better then Marg.
you don't have to call out people anymore in boxing to make a fight
you need to have $$$ to put on the table or PPV numbers. cotto had both
but of course, he only from an island, so according to the brilliant floyd, he doesn't sell
but yeah, marquez had a *clap* whole country (that doesn't have PPV over there) behind him!! *clap clap* :rofl:
Dude Floyd told Cotto to drop Arum then he'll fight him.
People shit on him for not fighting Marg and Cotto. Then dont say a peep when he fights Mosley and wants Pacman.
Look at the poll.
Who else do you expect him to fight? He SHOULD be fighting Pacquiao and Mosley. But if Mayweather would've beaten both Cotto and Marg back from '04 to '08 I'm pretty sure you'd hold those wins very high for Floyd (as they'd be his best wins out of any fighter he faced from '04-'08).
Each of those wins is (or would've been) a big win for Floyd.
Could be equal considering the time frame when everything was or is going to happen. It'll be a good look if he beats both Mosley and Pac, but you'd be crazy not to think beating Cotto or Margarito wouldn't be a good look on Floyd (especially between 2004-2008)
People shit on him for not fighting Marg and Cotto. Then dont say a peep when he fights Mosley and wants Pacman.
Look at the poll.
What are better wins for Mayweather:
2007 Cotto ...Top 5 P4Pounder.
2006 Margarito
OR
2010 Mosley....Number 1 WW. P4P Number 3.
2010 Pacman...Fighter of the Decade, P4P Number 1, Number 2 WW.
I know.
"Good topic Burner".
Thx :boxing:
Could be equal considering the time frame when everything was or is going to happen. It'll be a good look if he beats both Mosley and Pac, but you'd be crazy not to think beating Cotto or Margarito wouldn't be a good look on Floyd (especially between 2004-2008)
Don't mistake me. I'm a bigger fan of pac than any fighter. That Cotto and that Margarito are beasts. Before they met, they hold wins over almost every significant WW contender with only Pwill and Floyd as the exception.
Pac has 2 fights at WW. Hindsight include, only one is really a gauge of his abilities (Cotto).
Mosley in the last 3 years at WW got Collazo, Cotto, and Marg ... losing to Cotto.
You can make the P4P argument and spin it anyway you want but the WW resume of Cotto and Marg speaks for itself.
Margarito is not as good as Pac. But we are not talking P4P status here. We are talking actual fights and matchups. Why do you ask over Baldomir? Never shitted on the guy actually respected him and do not take that win from Floyd. He was a one time WW no. 1 guy. The best continuously fights the best. It is not a one shot deal. Fact is before Floyd went on retirement, there were 2 guys primed and ready to take the WW crown from him. That was Cotto and Margarito.
Are Mosley and Pac not the BEST?
Pac is the Number 2 WW and P4P Number 1.
Mosley is the P4P Number 3 and Number 1 WW.
That shits on Cotto and Marg.
marg is a bigger, stronger, more relentless version of castillo in a lot of ways
you remember that castillo fight, don't you?
Castillo at 135 is LIGHT YEARS better then Marg at anyweight.
Are you talking about the first fight? The one where Floyd had a torn rotator cuff?
He beat Castillo twice BTW.
What are better wins for Mayweather:
2007 Cotto ...Top 5 P4Pounder.
2006 Margarito
OR
2010 Mosley....Number 1 WW. P4P Number 3.
2010 Pacman...Fighter of the Decade, P4P Number 1, Number 2 WW.
I know.
"Good topic Burner".
Thx :boxing:
Mosely and Pac would be better wins for Mayweather Jr
It was not signed, it agreed but not signed.
But, just cuz people wanted to see it does not make it necessary. For example before Roy lost to Green. People wanted to see Hopkins-Jones II but it was really not necessary... And, also there was the same amount of people that wanted to see Floyd-Margarito...
And, what makes you think that Zab was playing around with Baldo? Why would he play around? Or why after 8 or 9 rounds when it was close why not get serious and beat Baldo? Why did he keep playing around for the whole 12 rounds?
And, why fight a guy who does not take boxing seriously? A fighter who plays around and losses does not take boxing seriously...
But, why not fight Marg and have Zab prove that the Baldo fight was a fluke? Beat Marg and fight the winner of the Zab-Baldo rematch?
Dude there were things in the contract that Floyd didnt like. So he fought the Lineal Champion instead.
why would a guy who's ducking every threat on the horizon need to rest his body? i wanna now who punished him enough for him to retire almost 2 years
he didn't need time to heal anything. he just needed time for the WW to destroy themselves in wars while pac moved up. now he plans to fight pac and mosley and retire again. i'd go all in on that any day
Floyd is a known over trainer. Hes been boxing since he was born damn near.
He has had hand problems and back problems. Who are we to say he cant go on retirement?
He came back and is fighting the best WW in the World then hes going to fight the P4P Number the SECOND best WW.
I know it hurts.
the only real WW are Cotto / Mosley
Pac is NOT a real ww and Gayweather is a chicken that picks fighter, I KNOW Mosley is going to beat the f*ck out of him
IMO it goes:
Pacquiao of now > pre-Margarito Cotto > post-Cotto Margarito > Mosley of now
All four are/would have been great wins, but obviously Pacquiao stands out.
people act like cotto was calling floyd out....cotto didnt want none of floyd so stop with the bullshit floyd ducked cotto its was the other way round...the margo fight well there is a good arguement floyd ducked him but stop with the cotto bullshit.
marg is a bigger, stronger, more relentless version of castillo in a lot of ways
you remember that castillo fight, don't you?
u can say that again, Margaritos weakness are fighters who are fast and very strong to keep him abay, FMJ has brittle hands and punch like malignaggi so i think it will be a long night for him in other words still a toss-up
I know that. But you don't get to a world champion by being a bum. Weakest or not, he got the lineal claim by beating Judah fair and square. He had a very good string of victories ( I think 15 ) with the robbery against Clottey. A true cinderella story. We can always say that Baldomir and Diaz are the weakest beltholder but respect should be given considering they overrachieve with what they have ...which is more or less just a good work ethic.
i didnt say theyre bums like what most flomos say, i just said theyre the weakest of the titleholders otherwise i agree wid u all the way
Is this a Fantasy thread? FMJ hasn't fought any of those guys yet. You can't count mosley, they don't fight till May 1st.
2007 Cotto and 2006 Marg 'would' have been better. Those Fantasy fights would have been better than Pac Mosley 2010.
If you think about it.. Cotto Marg would be better than FMJ's actual last 5 fights combined since 2006.