Richard's venting his frustration in media says it all. It's a sign of Floyd's hemming and hawing over fighting Shane. But I believe the pressure was really great on Floyd from both media and the fans (if you have been reading the comments on the web), that he really has no other recourse than sign the contract. Otherwise, his reputation will be forever tarnished and would give him less leverage on a future Pac fight.Do you really think he cares what people think about him? His reputation took a hit a few years ago when Arum said he was ducking certain boxers. He was the one who started the whole ducking bullshit.
Richard was frustrated because he wanted to start promoting the fight during the Superbowl weekend and he was afraid Floyd was going to mess up his plans for promoting the fight.
Most lawyers are not going to waste their weekend on the contract language, when they could do it on Monday/Tuesday.
Floyd's advisers and GBP negotiated the whole contract. The lawyers just double checked everything is correct so the contract holds up.
Arum never made Floyd a contract offer to fight Manny with a 14 day cut off. Why would he sign a contract for 30-24 days cut off, when Roach asked for 5 days and Floyd gave him 14 days?
Richard's venting his frustration in media says it all. It's a sign of Floyd's hemming and hawing over fighting Shane. But I believe the pressure was really great on Floyd from both media and the fans (if you have been reading the comments on the web), that he really has no other recourse than sign the contract. Otherwise, his reputation will be forever tarnished and would give him less leverage on a future Pac fight.
this is why you must take everything these guys say with a grain of salt
they say what's convenient given their current agenda
Pac never needed Floyd, Floyd needed him
that's why Pac could get away with telling Floyd to piss off over the tests
if both win their next fights the match seems natural
with Clottey and Shane defeated there's nobody left, save for Berto when he reenters the fray, and he still needs a coming out fight since he withdrew from Mosley
and neither Pac or Floyd would take him over the otherEverything goes through Mayweather.
Manny is going to have to fight Mayweather soon if he wants a big payday.
Well, I don't think Floyd's lawyers are that slow, after all, they dictated all the terms and its all heavily stacked in Floyds favor. Meanwhile, Shane with his lawyer immediately signed the same contract--the way a fighter would if he really wants to fight. No BS like Floyd did to Pacquiao!Most lawyers are not going to waste their weekend on the contract language, when they could do it on Monday/Tuesday.
Floyd's advisers and GBP negotiated the whole contract. The lawyers just double checked everything is correct so the contract holds up.
Arum never made Floyd a contract offer to fight Manny with a 14 day cut off. Why would he sign a contract for 30-24 days cut off, when Roach asked for 5 days and Floyd gave him 14 days?
it's the truth
Floyd came back for Pac, not for Mosley
the Shane fight is plan B, ie what Floyd was forced to do when plan A went sour
I'm not complaining because I like the Shane fight too
but Floydstans are comical with this "give Floyd credit" shit
for what, fighting the top man in his division?
they said the same thing when he accepted 50-50 for the Pac bout
doesn't matter why Floyd's fighting Shane
he's fighting him and that's what counts
but you're kidding yourself if you think he wanted to do it
He's fighting the guy Manny ducked at 147. According to Roach, Mosley is too good for Manny. I think that's bs because Manny would beat Mosley.
He could've easily waited for Manny to win his fight and put more pressure on him. Manny will give in to Floyd's demands.
Why would he sign a contract without having his lawyers go over every single little detail in the contract? Have you ever seen a contract? You probably wouldn't even understand the contract and language in the contract. One word can cause you millions.
They had at least another 4 weeks to get the fight done. GBP is not his boss. He uses GBP because they have a promoter's license.
Well, I don't think Floyd's lawyers are that slow, after all, they dictated all the terms and its all heavily stacked in Floyds favor. Meanwhile, Shane with his lawyer immediately signed the same contract--the way a fighter would if he really wants to fight. No BS like Floyd did to Pacquiao!
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Yeah, Floyd really wanted to fight Mosley that's why he took a lot of time to sign the contract and frustrated his promoters in the process. He must have agonized over that decision. Richard must have told him "If you don't sign that piece of paper you'll be the laughing stock of the world!" :)Why would he sign a contract without having his lawyers go over every single little detail in the contract? Have you ever seen a contract? You probably wouldn't even understand the contract and language in the contract. One word can cause you millions.
They had at least another 4 weeks to get the fight done. GBP is not his boss. He uses GBP because they have a promoter's license.
Yeah, Floyd really wanted to fight Mosley that's why he took a lot of time to sign the contract and frustrated his promoters in the process. He must have agonized over that decision. Richard must have told him "If you don't sign that piece of paper you'll be the laughing stock of the world!" :)
had Pac lost badly enough to kill desire for a rematch, I woulda loved this scenario
problem is Floyd's word is worth shit, as is many other fighters'
we can't help getting excited over call outs and brash statements
but with a Pac payday in the bank, you still believe Floyd would have faced Shane?
what for, WW supremacy?
"legacy don't pay bills"/"I'm not fighting to prove who's the best"
you know, if we're to believe everything Floyd saysFloyd is my homie and he invited me to his gym.
Floyd wanted to fight Manny first then fight SSM after his fight with Manny.
Manny ducked blood tests and ducked SMM because he's too good. No, Floyd would've fought Manny in March, instead of fighting SSM, but you guys are giving him credit for something he had nothing to do with it. Floyd was planning on fighting SSM, after his fight with Manny, but Manny made Floyd go to his plan B, instead of fighting Manny.
You guys are acting like Floyd was forced to fight SSM because Manny ducked blood tests. Floyd only wants big fights at this point in his career. He wants Manny after his fight with SSM. Floyd is not going to give up his demands for OSDT in any of his future fights. Manny is going to have to accept Floyd's offer if he wants to fight Floyd this year.
We got lucky Berto had no choice, but to pulled out and help his family.
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Floyd fans are yet to learn talk is cheap
Floyd talks about a lotta fights
he just doesn't actually make them happen
fact is if not for Pac shitting on the blood tests, we would not be seeing Floyd-Shane
LMAO @ thinking Floyd woulda just canceled the Pac fight on March 13th to fight Shane in May because Berto pulled out
Floyd was going to fight Shane after his fight with Manny. That was the plan from the start, but Pacquiao ducked blood tests.
Pac laughed at the blood test demands
he left Floyd without an opponent
what other serious opponent was there but Mosley?
I hope you were kidding with this questionFloyd talked about fighting Mosley when he came back out of his retirement. Floyd and his advisers talked to the media late last year about Mosley even when they were negotiating with Pacquiao.
Floyd could've fought anyone else for $15 million and fought Mosley in late June.
LMAO @ giving a guy credit when he had nothing to do with what happened.
Real talk. That blood testing shit ruined a big fight, but simultaneously opened the door for another one we otherwise wouldn't have gotten to see. If Pac and Floyd both win, they can still do business later on this year. Had Floyd faced and beaten Pac in March as previously planned, he woulda probably retired with his trucload of money and deprived us of the Mosley fight.
Nobody cared about Clottey before the Pac fight. Pactards care about him now. Nobody will care about Clottey after the Pac fight.
This thread is pretty funny. If Pac decided to fight Malignaggi, the TS would have said "Thanks to Pac vs. Malignaggi, Floyd was forced to fight Mosley!"
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Honestly, I think if Manny fought Malignaggi, Floyd will not fight Mosley. Manny chose the next best thing in Clottey and Floyd was left with no other choice. Mosley said it himself that Floyd was backed into a corner which made their fight possible or something to that effect.