How in Gods name could Duran beat FLoyd.

He would most likely beat him by decision or knockout.

some of you people are letting your hate for floyd mess up your judgment here. Duran is an easier fight for floyd than many of you realize. Floyd is extremely slick and has arguably the best defense the sport has seen. Duran will always struggle against guys like that. The real challenge for floyd would be fighting sugar ray leonard in his prime, that's a fight floyd would lose imo. Actually RJJ would be a much harder fight for Floyd. He is just as intelligent in the ring, faster, more powerful and an even better pot-shotter. Only thing Floyd is better at is inside fighting and no way is Jones letting this be an inside fight.

I've gone over this more than a few times but here I go again. I think the main thing here is that Mayweather is not Ray Leonard. He's not a natural welterweight who stands 5'10 nor does he possess the combination of speed and power that Leonard did at 147, especially in combinations which Mayweather rarely throws at welterweight. I never thought that Leonard fought a stupid fight the first time, he fought the same type of fight that had beaten all his previous opponents in the professional ranks, including the master-boxer Wilfred Benitez and later Thomas Hearns. He was a dancer in the Olympics but as he got more seasoned as a pro, he adopted a more flat-footed stance in order to punch with greater power and to conserve energy. Going into the fight, Leonard and his trainer Angelo Dundee felt they could stand their ground and dictate the fight in the middle of the ring, unsuccessfully so. Few other lightweight champions of the past had been able to compete with welterweight champions, especially ones as great as Leonard, arguably a top 2 all-time great welterweight. Duran, despite holding a record of 70 wins and only 1 loss, avenged twice, came into the fight as an underdog. What they did not take into account was that while Duran had lost some of his power, he was still extremely strong and had great stamina to keep up a terrific pace for 15 rounds. Duran was able to feint Leonard, make him flinch and manhandle him in the clinches. Some of the punches Sugar Ray absorbed would have KO'd most of the lightweights Duran fought. Leonard never wanted to fight off the ropes and brawl with Duran, he was forced to. The strategy was to keep the fight in the middle of the ring because Leonard and Dundee did not think backing up against Duran was the way to beat him, considering that he had handed out beatings to slicksters such as Ernesto Marcel, Esteban DeJesus, Ken Buchanan, Edwin Viruet and Vilomar Fernandez. When Leonard was asked what was the key to his victory in the rematch, he did not say footwork, he did not say defense, he said it was his physical strength and size that allowed him to hold off Duran in the clinches. Along with Leonard's advantages in height, reach and youth, Duran was no longer able to duplicate what he had done in the Brawl in Montreal. However this does not mean he could not compete with Mayweather. As I said, being slick doesn't necessarily mean you'll automatically frustrate and beat Duran. Ernesto Marcel had one of the best right hand leads I've ever seen and gave a boxing lesson to a young Alexis Arguello, yet a 19 year old Roberto Duran was able to beat him decisively. The difference was that above 135 lbs Duran was fighting bigger opponents and his strength and power was no longer as telling. He had to rely on his skills to beat men who had significant advantages in height and reach. Anyone who doesn't think Duran could compete with Mayweather at 147, take a look at these videos: Mayweather continually being back up against the ropes by an inferior fighter in Ricky Hatton. 5:40 The difference is that Duran does not smother his own work and he is much more defensively adept.

whenever this guy makes a thread, there are a lot of pages and responses. Your right I make pretty good threads wheteher people agree on my thoughts or not. We get good debate in my threads. I have another two on the front page that are also pretty good.

whenever this guy makes a thread, there are a lot of pages and responses.

And he think he was frustrated against Leonard. He wouldve quit earlier vs. Mayweather. probably would because mayweather would be straight running from duran especially at lightweight

Floyd had a torn rotator cuff in that first fight. He CLEARLY beat him in the second fight. So stop the Castillo crap..He had a torn rotator cuff. "Repeated mantra among “experts” is that the way to beat Mayweather (who, ironically, has never been beaten) is to pressure him a la Jose Luis Castillo. It is well documented that many feel that Castillo should have won his first fight with Mayweather (though 3 judges saw it differently) and point to this as the blueprint for Mayweather’s fistic Waterloo. More importantly, Hatton’s fans point to the fact that while Mayweather went the distance with Castillo (twice), Hatton crushed him in four. Mayweather-Castillo I has served as a flashpoint of controversy between Mayweather’s fans and those who insist that the pound-for-pound champ should have taken a loss that night. The outcry following the match prompted Floyd to call for an immediate rematch, which was another unanimous decision, by an even wider margin that before. These facts are not up for dispute. While fans constantly point to Mayweather-Castillo I as the Rosetta Stone of a Mayweather defeat, few care to admit (or are even aware) that Mayweather fought Castillo with a torn rotator cuff that night and still managed to win a wide-margin unanimous decision. The question that has not often been asked is this: If Castillo possessed the tools to defeat Mayweather so resoundingly as alleged, why was he not able to summon the same performance in the second match? Further, why was he beaten even more convincingly in the rematch? Indeed it may be that Castillo’s performance in the first fight was impressive precisely because Mayweather was injured and the reason that the effort he turned against a healthy Mayweather seemed nothing more than pedestrian."

Its not hate. Its competition. After Castillo he never had a real fight again. Castillo gave him his first loss. I consider Duran to be more hardcore than Castillo at 35' which leads me (by way of simple deductive reasoning) to think if Castillo ****ed up Floyd, Duran would KILL him. Kill. Floyd had a torn rotator cuff in that first fight. He CLEARLY beat him in the second fight. So stop the Castillo crap..He had a torn rotator cuff.

some of you people are letting your hate for floyd mess up your judgment here. Duran is an easier fight for floyd than many of you realize. Floyd is extremely slick and has arguably the best defense the sport has seen. Duran will always struggle against guys like that. The real challenge for floyd would be fighting sugar ray leonard in his prime, that's a fight floyd would lose imo. BINGO!!!!! Styles makes fights.......UNTIL Floyd is involved. Go figure.

Everyone knows that no one in boxing today or yesterday can beat Floyd. He is the GOAT and no one can even touch him. Tyson, Ali, SRR, SRL, Frazier, Louis, Johnson (in any weight)...if they stepped in the ring with him, they would all get destroyed. They wouldn't even be able to land one puch on him. He is untouchable!

Styles makes fights. So Does Precision,Timing and obviously last but not least the Right Timed Punch or counter Punch or even Haye Maker

Styles makes fights.

Floyd fights NOTHING like Ray Leonard. Cmon Burner. this dude has a point tbh...

And he think he was frustrated against Leonard. He wouldve quit earlier vs. Mayweather. Can you prove that? Or are you assuming again?

Floyds wins all fantasy fights True Story.

People act like Duran was getting his ass kicked in the second Leonard fight, he wasn't at all. Not to mention Floyd fights NOTHING like Leonard and if he tried to just run the whole fight would get f*****g destroyed.

who has Floyd fought at 147 that comes close to what Duran was? none. Floyd also isnt Leonard the fighter who made Duran "quit". Nor can you compare the two. Both different levels. One had the balls the other doesnt and is worry about his bank account. seriously if your just going tobe a fan of one fighter and ride his dick goto a fan website not a boxing website where people actually are interested in other fighters. geez, ive never seen dick riding this much on a guy they probably never met in person.

Great thread. Keeps my mind off things. :D

How in Gods name could FLoyd Handle Duran, Duran would walk through him. He isn't on the level of J.L. Castillo, Duran is on a completely different level! This :nutkick: Thread JLC is maybe 2 levels below Duran at 135 and people are saying Floyd will beat Duran handily. What the???!!!! and if were talking about 147. we need to take into account who they beat at that weight....and........:)

I'm not so sure about that,16 months off is a helluva lot for a guy approaching 40,who has already completed a full training camp recently. Mosley is still by far the toughest, strongest, biggest opposition Floyd has face in 9 years. If Floyd wins convincingly, I'd put it over the Corrales win. Will it be Floyd's best performance? Probably not, but I'm not gonna discount Mosley just yet. The last thing to go is the power, and Mosley still has above average speed imo. Sure he's old and past his prime, but he's still the greatest name Floyd will have on his resume if Floyd wins. Until Pacquiao anyway.