I'm sorry? Floyd was amazing vs Marquez and Baldo. Complete clinics! I give you Oscar he was tentative going up to 154 for the first time and meeting the champion.
Oscar was a paper champ at 154 when floyd fought him. and baldo and Marquez are two fighters he should have tko or forced the issue.
if the floyd that fought at 130 were in the ring and had all the advantages he did against Marquez like he did at welter. he would have demolished Marquez and baldo.
to me those three fight against oscar, baldo, and Marquez are examples of floyd playing it safe and just content on winning a dec.
to each his own. To me those are examples of floyd under performing.
Well to be fair to Pacquiao, Mayweather had a lot more fights than Pacquiao at 130. So Mayweather had a lot to show us. I mean isn't Mayweather considered the Super Featherweight of all time or something like that, top 3 SFW ATG's?
This is a question of who is more exciting, not who is better. Pac due to his style is simply a more exciting fighter, especially at 130 when he was much wilder.
If we are going to say shane isn't in his prime can we ask who manny has fought as of recently who he hasn't had the stylistic advantage over or who wasn't past their primes? I appreciate what manny has done, but I do understand that he has had a stylistic advantage over a lot of the past fighters who were "The Best."
Depending on what you call exciting... I as a fan love to watch floyds subtle defense, but for a ufc style brawl manny is the best to watch for sure. Manny is a super star like hatton was when he was extremelly hyped... Manny is the best at what he does, but floyd to me is subtle and brings back the best parts of the game in my mind.
so what does that mean. He rooted for Dawson too but that dont mean he thinks Dawson is better than him. Floyd also is a gambler and picked Pac to win. He probably had money on the fights. Either way you act like him jumping for Pac means that Floyd thinks Pac was better or more exciting.
That's what it means, Floyd know what exciting is. He aint dumb.
Mayweather was the complete package at 130 and he wasn't shy about mixing it up. While Manny is always exciting, he become more exciting since adding a right hand and better in and out movement. He was fun at 130, but not as exciting as Floyd.
We are very much in agreeance here. As I stated, Floyd had it all at 130. /Thread.
ALL past prime and or weight drained...try again please..
Haters will hate. :nonono:
One thing.... Do you think Mosley is in his prime?
If you do... You're an idiot.
If you don't, then how do you expect people to give Floyd credit for beating him if you can't even give Pac any credit?
What it comes down to is this.
STFU Goblin. You should have a Label next to your Username by now...
Pac-Hating Since 2005
Mayweather was the complete package at 130 and he wasn't shy about mixing it up. While Manny is always exciting, he become more exciting since adding a right hand and better in and out movement. He was fun at 130, but not as exciting as Floyd.
Than why was Floyd jumping for joy at a Pacquiao fight?
so what does that mean. He rooted for Dawson too but that dont mean he thinks Dawson is better than him. Floyd also is a gambler and picked Pac to win. He probably had money on the fights. Either way you act like him jumping for Pac means that Floyd thinks Pac was better or more exciting.
It was Floyd no doubt. People have failed to mention that along with his incredible speed, defense, and combos, he also had POP. He had a pretty good punch at that weight.
Than why was Floyd jumping for joy at a Pacquiao fight?
Mayweather at 130 was perfection. His lightning quick combinations were beautiful to watch. As hard as it might be to believe, Mayweather was very exciting and entertaining to watch, once upon a time.
Perfection or not, he was jumping for joy with excitement at a Pacquiao fight. Even Floyd know Pacquaio was exciting.
Anything who thinks FLOYD was more exciting then he should go to Dr.PHIL.
FLOYD is boring fighter,110% of his fights were boring.
Pure cure for INSOMNIA= FLOYD MAYWEATHER
PACQUIAO had wars at 130 and all his fight were exciting at 130.
You haven't watched Floyd in 130-135 then.
floyd was the goods at 130. floyd looked like what he and his fans claim him to be at 130 but sure does not looked like it now at welter and above
especially in his fights against oscar, baldo, and marquez. I did not see an all time great in those fights.
So i would say floyd was more exciting than the random blood test dodger at 130 but pac (aka the man that passes up on a 40 million payday when he is clean) smokes duckweather (i guess i can call him that now since he is fighting shane) in the excitement department from 135 to 147
I think that's what Floyd was referring too. As you get older and move up in weight class, you start to be sorrier LOL. In Pacquiao case he got better.
It was Floyd no doubt. People have failed to mention that along with his incredible speed, defense, and combos, he also had POP. He had a pretty good punch at that weight.
Mayweather looked invincible at 130.
He actually let his hands go.
I got Mayweather on this one. He was poetry in motion to watch when he was being close to impossible to hit and was also throwing vicious combinations at the same time.
Pac is exciting because he's taking out the big names in spectacular fashion.
Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Hatton, DLH, Cotto.
Incredible stuff, but Floyd at 130 would beat Pac.
Very good analysis.........floyd at 130 and 135 was awesome to watch....