I see alot of people complaining about Mayweather not hurrying up and signing the contract, ignoring the fact that it has been only 2 weeks since Berto drop out of the Mosley fight. And also ignoring the fact that it takes time for the Lawyers to scan these contracts and closed the loop holes.
Like Richard Schaefer . "A signed deal is a done deal,It will only be done when Floyd signs."
Meaning once it is sign, it is done, meaning no turning back without facing legal action. So if you have need to look over the contract to find any loopholes do so now because Once Floyd name is signed on that contract he is legally involved with fighting Shane Mosley for money. Any breach of this contract can be settled in a court of law. Which he can be held liable to pay shane what was owe to him in his contract. Floyd would not want that to happen.
Which is why I am AMAZED that Burstein said
"He's going to end up in a fight with Mosley. The only question is whether it will be in the ring or in court.":no:
NOT SO FAST Burstein, what is the rush??? :cool2:
why give floyd reason to recheck the contract with you making statments like this...?
Floyd has not breach any contract yet. Maybe an agreement but no contract.
HUGE DIFFERENCE
Leonard Ellerbe said.
"All of the deal points have been agreed to,"
However
"We still have to put pen to paper, but everything is agreed to. But It's with the lawyers."
Obivousy some of you guys never have never had to sign any type of contracts in your life, because if you did you would understand that once you agree to the terms of the contract, then the lawyers check out the legality of the contract and tie up any loopholes and clean up any wet spots their may be in the contract.
It is called making sure everybody honors the contract legally without finding a loophole to jump in or out of. And considering De la hoya's history with contracts, loopholes, and money I would make sure every period,comma, and exclamation mark is where it is suppose to be.
Say Mayweather vs. Mosely does 1.5 million buys.
and Say Mayweather agree to give Mosley additional 500k for every number over 1.2 million homes. Now let's say in the contract it writes that Mosley is entitled to 500k in addition to bonuses for every number over 1.2 million homes.
That right there would be a loophole for Mosley/Goldenboy to claim more money than Mayweather agreed too.
This is why it is up to the Lawyers too look for and find loopholes in the contract so this type of situation does not happen.
this shit usually takes up to 2 weeks to be thoroughly done so calm down and LET THE LAWYERS DO THEIR JOBS.
Your Welcome,
Horus, B.A and B.S Business Mangement
The Business of Boxing (PLEASE READ)
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/blog.php?b=345
Please feel free to dispute any facts I posted, better yet come on the show tonight and OWNED MY ASS, on these topics...
stop sitting on the sidelines and get in the game.
Prove me wrong with facts, or please stop addresses my post like you can.
How about you posting some proof for all your horrendous postulates.
Please show me the Parallel between what I said in those threads, and what I said in this thread.
In this thread#1:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333334
I made the statement that Mayweather called their bluff on the March 13th date. and Team Pacquaio will find another way out.
In this Thread #2:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334149
In this thread I used all Bob Arum quotes to show that bob arum feels that there is no excuse to not fight mayweather on March 13th.
And in This thread, I am explaining How the contract process usually works, and how people are being overly dramatic since Berto only drop out of the fight 2 weeks ago.
So please show me the Parallels between those threads and this one.
because the only parallel I see is Floyd Mayweather.
Please specifically make direct comparisons ( with posts) of mines that show the double standards you say I have... Because I do not see it.
So please compare post by post of mines to show the comparisons.
Direct comparisons with posts? Come on man Im not doin a project, Im on boxingscene.
Basically the circumstances are the same.
What I'am trying to say is that a month or two ago Pacquiao was in essentially this same position but instead of making threads like this one about how it takes time to sign the fight and everything you were making threads like the ones above. When it comes to floyd you have a much larger amount of patience about these situations as opposed to other fighters. And that type bias really makes it hard to take some of your posts seriously.
Im not coming at you or anything, I dont dislike you, you seem like a chill dude on your radio show and everything Im just making some observations.
well mayweather went on record talking about the fight being final and confirmed everything. then roger just had an interview and talked about the fight with shane. he will sign the contract.
^^This must rival the most ignorant faulty posts ever made on NSB.
Please don't pretend to be a fan of boxing and don't pretend you know anything about anyone but your beloved Floyd.
Please feel free to dispute any facts I posted, better yet come on the show tonight and OWNED MY ASS, on these topics...
stop sitting on the sidelines and get in the game.
Prove me wrong with facts, or please stop addresses my post like you can.
Again Horus its cool that you made this thread and the what you are saying is very logical. But where was this patience and understanding when you made these threads.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333334
and
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334149
This was essentially the exact same situation just Floyd was on the other end of the spectrum and yet you were the first one to jump all over pacquiao. If you are going to make these claims about ducking, or letting the lawyers do their jobs at least be consistent with them.
Again i still think this fight will get signed I'm just saying, this is kind of a hypocritical statement you made.
Please show me the Parallel between what I said in those threads, and what I said in this thread.
In this thread#1:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333334
I made the statement that Mayweather called their bluff on the March 13th date. and Team Pacquaio will find another way out.
In this Thread #2:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334149
In this thread I used all Bob Arum quotes to show that bob arum feels that there is no excuse to not fight mayweather on March 13th.
And in This thread, I am explaining How the contract process usually works, and how people are being overly dramatic since Berto only drop out of the fight 2 weeks ago.
So please show me the Parallels between those threads and this one.
because the only parallel I see is Floyd Mayweather.
Please specifically make direct comparisons ( with posts) of mines that show the double standards you say I have... Because I do not see it.
So please compare post by post of mines to show the comparisons.
Again Horus its cool that you made this thread and the what you are saying is very logical. But where was this patience and understanding when you made these threads.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333334
and
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334149
This was essentially the exact same situation just Floyd was on the other end of the spectrum and yet you were the first one to jump all over pacquiao. If you are going to make these claims about ducking, or letting the lawyers do their jobs at least be consistent with them.
Again i still think this fight will get signed I'm just saying, this is kind of a hypocritical statement you made.
Good stuff Danny. Horus is the undisputed king of double standards.
Again Horus its cool that you made this thread and the what you are saying is very logical. But where was this patience and understanding when you made these threads.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333334
and
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334149
This was essentially the exact same situation just Floyd was on the other end of the spectrum and yet you were the first one to jump all over pacquiao. If you are going to make these claims about ducking, or letting the lawyers do their jobs at least be consistent with them.
Again i still think this fight will get signed I'm just saying, this is kind of a hypocritical statement you made.
Breakdown the points in that post thats ignorant please.
Ask him to prove his postulates Burner. I can't be bothered. There's not much truth in his post.Take my word for it.
I have ALOT of posts per day mainly because as a writer my job requires me on a computer typing.
Nothing wrong with people being on a site that talks boxing.
^^This must rival the most ignorant faulty posts ever made on NSB.
Please don't pretend to be a fan of boxing and don't pretend you know anything about anyone but your beloved Floyd.
Breakdown the points in that post thats ignorant please.
BOXING HISTORY 101: Why Precedence Matters !!!
Great Post,
These so called hardcore boxing fans are so hardcore that they don’t know any HARDCORE boxing history...
They act is if Floyd Mayweather is setting precedence never seen before in boxing. They act is if Sugar Ray Robinson WAS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE ON HOW A FIGHTER SHOULD BE AND wasn’t the Biggest asshole in the sport when it comes to money... The guy would pull out of fights on fight night just to change to already agreed upon money split....:ugh:
Imagine if Mayweather did that with somebody today...On the night of the fight, He says he isn’t going to fight unless he now gets 65% instead of the 60% he already agreed on....Could you picture the reaction????
* People forget or dont know, that Sugar Ray Leonard never fought Pryor, when Pryor called him out in his face!!!
* People forget or dont know, that SRL made Hagler wait 8 years before he would fight him...
* People forget or dont know Haglar was NORTOROIUS for calling out a smaller man and making them come up to his weightclass to fight him.
Haglar was infamous from calling out welterweights and former lightweights.
(hearns,SRL,Duran) Sounds like a fighter we know today: (Hopkins)
* People forget or dont know that Michael Spinks used to called Haglar out for years but Haglar pretended that Spinks didnt exist. Why didnt Haglar fight Spinks the biggerman instead of always making smaller men moved up and fight him.
Haglar always fought the Smallerman... But is his legacy tarnish?????
* People Forget, that Roberto Duran just quit against SRL, because he could not take SRL style anymore...Picture what would happen if Mayweather quit a fight against somebody because their style was too hard for them to handle...
People act is if the past in boxing was some kind of holy time. :angel:
No fighter in history has fought everyone. NO FIGHTER!!!
Especially in their 4th weightclass. !!!
Jack Dempsey never fought any black fighters, Sound familiar???:thinkerg:
If people actually learn some boxing history, they would not act as if Floyd is breaking every secret boxing rule in the book every time Floyd makes a decision.
This is why I dont take half of these clowns seriously.
Because they dont know any history, and complain about shit
that some of their greatest fighters in history used to do all the the time.
But when Mayweather does it, They act as if SRR,SRL,HAGLAR,DURAN,etc...
would never have never done that..!!!
:boxing: boxing is the only sport in which contradictions are allowed to happen and the ignorant lead the ignorant.!
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=321225
^^This must rival the most ignorant faulty posts ever made on NSB.
Please don't pretend to be a fan of boxing and don't pretend you know anything about anyone but your beloved Floyd.
Sorry,who has no life?
Ash - 32.90 posts per day
Roger Mellie - 13.19 posts per day.
Oh dear,oh f.ucking dear! :rofl::rofl::rofl:
Nitpicking like always huh.
He feels like he has a chip on his shoulder and he takes this site way too seriously. I mean just look at his user title "owner of Carnivore" like seriously congrats you want a cookie for being "better" than someone else on the internet?
I have 33 posts per day and you have 13, but you still need to get a better life. I'm doing math homework right now for college, my engineering science major. What are you doing? trying to own someone? Lol please, get a life man.
it's called an obsession...the media now obsesses over what mayweather does...never in the history of boxing has there been such an interest in the contractual side of this business...the only business we ever cared about was the ring side...but now we all want to be micromanagers and think we are now experts on what and where goes where when these guys draw up agreements...i blame people like dan rafeal...he's shown his panties on more than one occasion in the past few weeks...the pacquaio thing...he was all over floyd pointing a finger...the fight is not next week...i don't think this involves anymore deliberation than any normal fight...we all just need to sit back and let it happen...stop analysing th paper they use for contracts or the font...let the fighters and lawyers do their thing and wait for the announcement like we always have...
Here is the problem with this entire assessment. I give you credit for thinking this out but it entirely wrong and biased towards Mayweather. This is exactly what has been going on over the last 2 weeks of discussions. Lawyers for both camps have been doing the negotiations. In the end Haymon, Ellerbe and company agreed that the contract Mosley signed was good enough for them. So at that time they were aware of loopholes etc. if there were any in the agreement. This isn't rocket science. It doesn't take an extended period of time to figure this out. If Mayweather had a problem with the agreement it should have been brought to Burstein and Mosley's attention prior to them signing it so it could be looked at and discussed. But Mayweather waited to the last minute to back out.
Here in lies the problem. At least the root of the problem. Mayweather is reluctant to fight anybody worth their salt. It is just a flat out fact. Only once in his career he in a fight were he was in situation where odds makers had him less then a 2 to 1 favorite. (Diego Corales) After he moved up to Welterweight he decided to pick and choose. Everybody talks about how he wanted to fight everybody, but after this crap, who is say he would had signed the contract if Mosley would have wanted the fight in 2006. His credible is worthless. I mean his fans will say otherwise. But in the end fan are short for 'Fanatics' and they will not help his legacy. They are blinded by the Floyds reasoning, but the truth will hurt when Floyd is judged by his peers. His legacy will be decided by writers, trainers, his peers, and historians. And they will view his legacy as coming up short because he was afraid to take tough fights. In fact, what he is doing right now is not helping his pocket book. Where will be his leverage over Pacquiao after this? He gets Mosley to take a drug test, but refuses to fight him. This give Pacquiao leverage, as he can say you know what, you didn't fight Mosley and he has a documented steroid past, he was going to take the tests. Now you want me too. He is just going to laugh. I would argue after this lastest fiasco that Floyd Mayweather is a terrible businessman. Just backed out on two 20 plus million dollar fights.
:tool:Being told I have no life by a flomo who cant keep away after a ban is a bit rich. What a f.ucking plum. Go and suck on cunt webb's pissflaps you f.ucking mong.
ash is right, your ass belongs on ignore.... u r nothing but a tool:tool:
True,but then Pac is smaller than Floyd and started his career at 106. Floyd has been at welter for years and already claims a title at 154,so clearly there are no double standards.
Who hits harder at WW..
Floyd or Pac??
BOXING HISTORY 101: Why Precedence Matters !!!
Great Post,
These so called hardcore boxing fans are so hardcore that they don’t know any HARDCORE boxing history...
They act is if Floyd Mayweather is setting precedence never seen before in boxing. They act is if Sugar Ray Robinson WAS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE ON HOW A FIGHTER SHOULD BE AND wasn’t the Biggest asshole in the sport when it comes to money... The guy would pull out of fights on fight night just to change to already agreed upon money split....:ugh:
Imagine if Mayweather did that with somebody today...On the night of the fight, He says he isn’t going to fight unless he now gets 65% instead of the 60% he already agreed on....Could you picture the reaction????
* People forget or dont know, that Sugar Ray Leonard never fought Pryor, when Pryor called him out in his face!!!
* People forget or dont know, that SRL made Hagler wait 8 years before he would fight him...
* People forget or dont know Haglar was NORTOROIUS for calling out a smaller man and making them come up to his weightclass to fight him.
Haglar was infamous from calling out welterweights and former lightweights.
(hearns,SRL,Duran) Sounds like a fighter we know today: (Hopkins)
* People forget or dont know that Michael Spinks used to called Haglar out for years but Haglar pretended that Spinks didnt exist. Why didnt Haglar fight Spinks the biggerman instead of always making smaller men moved up and fight him.
Haglar always fought the Smallerman... But is his legacy tarnish?????
* People Forget, that Roberto Duran just quit against SRL, because he could not take SRL style anymore...Picture what would happen if Mayweather quit a fight against somebody because their style was too hard for them to handle...
People act is if the past in boxing was some kind of holy time. :angel:
No fighter in history has fought everyone. NO FIGHTER!!!
Especially in their 4th weightclass. !!!
Jack Dempsey never fought any black fighters, Sound familiar???:thinkerg:
If people actually learn some boxing history, they would not act as if Floyd is breaking every secret boxing rule in the book every time Floyd makes a decision.
This is why I dont take half of these clowns seriously.
Because they dont know any history, and complain about shit
that some of their greatest fighters in history used to do all the the time.
But when Mayweather does it, They act as if SRR,SRL,HAGLAR,DURAN,etc...
would never have never done that..!!!
:boxing: boxing is the only sport in which contradictions are allowed to happen and the ignorant lead the ignorant.!
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=321225
great post! talk to u @ your show tonight!
Horus, B.A. (bullcrap agenda) & B.S. (bull shitter) Business Management.
Horus I love you as a poster, but why on earth would u have a bachelor of arts and bachelor of science in business management? seems pretty pointless to me unless u were trying to fill electives haha
PLEASE READ AGAIN.,:boxing:
Horus, Amadla Ngawethu presented to you a jurisprudence which has been decided by the US court. read this as well..http://chestofbooks.com/business/law/Statute-Frauds/Verbal-Contracts-Enforced-In-Equity-Part-6.html