I've said all along that Mayweather doesn't like Mosley and really doesn't want him to break the bank off of him. When mosley fought delahoya he got a flat fee of 5 million + 500,000 if he won which he did. Mayweather is against Mosley making 15-20million off of his name. I read an interview where it said mosley would make the most in his career. Mayweather feels he should only get what Delahoya gave him. Floyd has everything to lose and nothing to gain. This fight won't happen unless they change the split. Floyd will sit out the year and wait for Pacquiao. Mark my words. Floyd is the cash cow now, and even HBO and Delahoya, Shaefer said so. He won't settle for nothing less than a flat fee.
You sound stupid to me. Baldomir was Champion of the welterweights after he beat judah. You don't know shit about boxing. How can a man be rated P4P if he doesn't fight anybody. Floyd was p4p up until he retired. He didn't become p4p until roy jones lost to tarver. At that time Floyd was at 140. Get your head out of Pacquiao ass. THe same guy who you call p4p but likes to drain fighters down. And the guy who is on roids and just ducked foreman because he was too tall. He beat a washed up delahoya, a shot cotto ,and a shot hatton. Hell even barrera and morrales were shot fighters at the time.
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This is why alts, fags n spammers need to be ousted from this board...delusional qualities of a closet flomo...
Just sayin.
Back to reality, glad the fights official, Mosely deserves the shot. this has a lot of potential to be a great matchup(which I'm hoping), or could be an ugly one....
Ready for this saturday's fight. Its gonna be a barnburner. Pullin for DeMarco. But mos def can't count Valero out, either he's(demarco) gonna be exposed with this step up in comp, or if he's as good as I think he is, can make believers out of non-believers...
Hey, menso, if you read my post, i said anything FMJ did from 135lbs and below, he was good(if not great) but your blinded and only read or hear what you want to...
NO ONE was asking for the Baldo fight, you're wrong on that one, the only reason Kenny grilled him about it is because FMJ fought Judah b4 Baldo......you'd get your shit straight if you got his cock out ur ass puto...
You sound stupid to me. Baldomir was Champion of the welterweights after he beat judah. You don't know shit about boxing. How can a man be rated P4P if he doesn't fight anybody. Floyd was p4p up until he retired. He didn't become p4p until roy jones lost to tarver. At that time Floyd was at 140. Get your head out of Pacquiao ass. THe same guy who you call p4p but likes to drain fighters down. And the guy who is on roids and just ducked foreman because he was too tall. He beat a washed up delahoya, a shot cotto ,and a shot hatton. Hell even barrera and morrales were shot fighters at the time.
Ok heres a mans response ready to go:
"LETS GET IT ON!!! Where do i sign?" - Shane done did that.
and one of the many things Pac has that floyd doesnt: PRINCIPLE.
Didn't mosley go on record and say he had a deal with Paquiao?Oh yeah I forgot Roach said no because Mosley is too good. What about the very tall foreman huh. Pacquiao shit stinks to.
You must be a Floyd hater. Like I said nothing will ever be good enough for you. Floyd knocked hatton out when he was 43-0. And yes they did call for the baldomir fight. Go to youtube and watch brian kenny grill Floyd about not fighting baldomir. Mayweather doesn't need mosley's wba title. And please don't talk about weight because Pacquiao drained every fighter. Keep hating all you want but maybe you should take a break and get pacquiaos ass hole off your face. Your starting to smell like shit.
Hey, menso, if you read my post, i said anything FMJ did from 135lbs and below, he was good(if not great) but your blinded and only read or hear what you want to...
NO ONE was asking for the Baldo fight, you're wrong on that one, the only reason Kenny grilled him about it is because FMJ fought Judah b4 Baldo......you'd get your shit straight if you got his cock out ur ass puto...
Sounds like another excuse.
Floyd needs to sign the on the dotted line or go down as the biggest fraud in the history of the sport. Cuz thats the way he's heading.
businesswise, shane is floyds ONLY choice. he fukd up his 40M payday so now he has a riskier fight in shane. what other fight out there can bring money for floyd? exactly, none. I believe even ellerbe agrees to fighting shane.
Floyd ain fighting mosley cuz he knows hes gonna get hurt. hell wait it out for pac.
Floyd ain't scared of mosley. Stop that madness now. He could fight anybody and make money. Pacquiao won't make 40 mill fighting mosley so why would he pass on Floyd?
I've said all along that Mayweather doesn't like Mosley and really doesn't want him to break the bank off of him. When mosley fought delahoya he got a flat fee of 5 million + 500,000 if he won which he did. Mayweather is against Mosley making 15-20million off of his name. I read an interview where it said mosley would make the most in his career. Mayweather feels he should only get what Delahoya gave him. Floyd has everything to lose and nothing to gain. This fight won't happen unless they change the split. Floyd will sit out the year and wait for Pacquiao. Mark my words. Floyd is the cash cow now, and even HBO and Delahoya, Shaefer said so. He won't settle for nothing less than a flat fee.
It is possible (anything is at this stage),but it wouldn't make "business sense" to not fight Shane,then settle for less than a 50/50 split with Manny (because Manny will have Shane as an option if Floyd doesn't fight him,and it gives Manny more leverage in negotiations)...
I think it is also possible we see that the contract is signed this week-keep in mind,it has only been 3 business days (since Shane signed the initial contract) and Mayweather's attorneys will be carefully looking over the contract-this is a massive money fight,I cannot believe that any attorney would skim or take shortcuts through a fight that has this much monetary value...time will tell.
I think u want the fight, everyone wants the fight. but ur talking like ur ellerbes right hand. When u say something like "Floyd has all to lose and nothing to gain", thats sounding like u dont want this fight at all and floyd should move on from mosley.
theres no reason for floyds demands on pac, thats the commissions job. and pac was man enough to say no to something hes uncomfortable with.
lets move on from that. pac-floyd fight will happen on 2010.
I didn't mean it that way. I was putting myself in Team Mayweather shoes trying to figure out there thinking or logic on not taking the mosley fight. Oh believe me I want that fight bad.
It isn't the cash, well in part it is but its Mosley. Mayweather wants to make the sucka sweat about possibly losing his big payday. Mosley never gave Floyd his payday when Mosley was on top. Now the tables have turned.
Thats what I feel as well. Floyd could care less about Mosley. He doesn't need him like so many media and people think. He could fight anybody and I bet all the pactards ,media,haters who shit on floyd will watch hoping he get his ass kicked.
TS is expert at self-ownage :pat:
hes fighting more for floyds cashflow than seeing the fight.
this thread needs to end.
I never said I didn't want the fight. But who are you to talk? All you ever do is make excuses on why Pacquiao shouldn't take random blood test. Did you want the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight? What a hypocrite.
The part about nothing to gain & everything to lose is completely false!!Mosley is a champ & #1 at 147,if floyd beat him,he has a belt is #1 at 147 & commands the lion share vs Manny,sounds like a lot to gain to me!!:boxing:Oh yeah & in the words of the intelligent MrLopez war Mosley!!
Floyd will not get the lions share. Mayweather vs Pacquiao is 50/50 all day.
Point 1-He will gain respect by not just fans, but boxing historians, analysts and scribes (those who cover the sport)...that he is willing to fight a real WW, one who by the way is the #1 guy in the division....
Point 2-No one ever called for FMJ/Baldomir unless you were one of his nuthuggers, no one gave a shit about Baldo, everyone was calling for the Cotto/Marg winner........
Point 3-Hatton was small, he was a 140lber and FMJ made him come up in weight...
Point 4-anything FMJ did from 135 and below, no one can argue with, he was good...
Point 5-Floyd beat those same guys yes, but pac's fights vs Hatton and DLH were great performances by Pac, he ktfo of Hatton with 1 punch(no corner post) and made DLH quit. Yeah FMJ fought and thoroughly whipped Marquez, but the punk didnt come in at the agreed weight(if you cant keep your word, youre a bit.ch) and made him come up 10/12lbs.........Floyd ko'd Hatton yes, but took awhile to do it and Hatton even won a couple rounds....in the DLH fight, it was a close split decision, some ringside observers even had it for DLH. This was the fight to save boxing? FMJ looked like he was trying to save himself!!! and then FMJ walked away from 30million? your logic is shot, and his nuts are blinding you...
You must be a Floyd hater. Like I said nothing will ever be good enough for you. Floyd knocked hatton out when he was 43-0. And yes they did call for the baldomir fight. Go to youtube and watch brian kenny grill Floyd about not fighting baldomir. Mayweather doesn't need mosley's wba title. And please don't talk about weight because Pacquiao drained every fighter. Keep hating all you want but maybe you should take a break and get pacquiaos ass hole off your face. Your starting to smell like shit.
It isn't the cash, well in part it is but its Mosley. Mayweather wants to make the sucka sweat about possibly losing his big payday. Mosley never gave Floyd his payday when Mosley was on top. Now the tables have turned.
I've said all along that Mayweather doesn't like Mosley and really doesn't want him to break the bank off of him. When mosley fought delahoya he got a flat fee of 5 million + 500,000 if he won which he did. Mayweather is against Mosley making 15-20million off of his name. I read an interview where it said mosley would make the most in his career. Mayweather feels he should only get what Delahoya gave him. Floyd has everything to lose and nothing to gain. This fight won't happen unless they change the split. Floyd will sit out the year and wait for Pacquiao. Mark my words. Floyd is the cash cow now, and even HBO and Delahoya, Shaefer said so. He won't settle for nothing less than a flat fee.
The part about nothing to gain & everything to lose is completely false!!Mosley is a champ & #1 at 147,if floyd beat him,he has a belt is #1 at 147 & commands the lion share vs Manny,sounds like a lot to gain to me!!:boxing:Oh yeah & in the words of the intelligent MrLopez war Mosley!!
Floyd can make 40 million fighting Pacquiao.
^^^^^^he fu.cked that up, remember?
He forgot to tell Top rank, Pac and his team that he is the boxing commision............
What does he have to gain then show off? Floyd can make 40 million fighting Pacquiao. If he beats Mosley everybody is gonna say he was past his prime. I remember when everyone was calling for the Baldomir fight and as soon as Mayweather beat his ass, they said he was a bumb. They called for Hatton. He ko'd him and then they said he was too small. Three of Pacquiao's biggest wins came against marquez,Hatton, Delahoya and wins fighter of the decade. But didn't floyd beat those same guys? But gets no credit for them.
Point 1-He will gain respect by not just fans, but boxing historians, analysts and scribes (those who cover the sport)...that he is willing to fight a real WW, one who by the way is the #1 guy in the division....
Point 2-No one ever called for FMJ/Baldomir unless you were one of his nuthuggers, no one gave a shit about Baldo, everyone was calling for the Cotto/Marg winner........
Point 3-Hatton was small, he was a 140lber and FMJ made him come up in weight...
Point 4-anything FMJ did from 135 and below, no one can argue with, he was good...
Point 5-Floyd beat those same guys yes, but pac's fights vs Hatton and DLH were great performances by Pac, he ktfo of Hatton with 1 punch(no corner post) and made DLH quit. Yeah FMJ fought and thoroughly whipped Marquez, but the punk didnt come in at the agreed weight(if you cant keep your word, youre a bit.ch) and made him come up 10/12lbs.........Floyd ko'd Hatton yes, but took awhile to do it and Hatton even won a couple rounds....in the DLH fight, it was a close split decision, some ringside observers even had it for DLH. This was the fight to save boxing? FMJ looked like he was trying to save himself!!! and then FMJ walked away from 30million? your logic is shot, and his nuts are blinding you...
Nothing to gain???????? are you fu.cking serious? gtfoh flomo
What does he have to gain then show off? Floyd can make 40 million fighting Pacquiao. If he beats Mosley everybody is gonna say he was past his prime. I remember when everyone was calling for the Baldomir fight and as soon as Mayweather beat his ass, they said he was a bumb. They called for Hatton. He ko'd him and then they said he was too small. They wanted corrales, he was weight drained. They wanted gatti, he was not good. They asked for judah, he lost to baldomir and has no chin. Emanuel Stewart was on a live HBO telecast and said he would favor Sharmba over Floyd. look what happened. He is over the hill. The man never gets credit. Three of Pacquiao's biggest wins came against marquez,Hatton, Delahoya and wins fighter of the decade. But didn't floyd beat those same guys? But gets no credit for them.
No you will think that. Floyd is a fighter. Thats what he does. No need to be scared to lose his 0. He would have stayed retired. Why come back even if you need money and risk the 0 if that is what your trying to protect?
FIGHTER!?
lolll
Joking aside....
Floyd doesn't exactly have the exciting go all-out-war style that many casual fans like. I would guess that a small percentage of his ppv numbers are there to see him lose. the whole mythical 0 is a money maker, one which he can't afford to lose.
On the flip side, I hope he losses, so atleast he's off that 0 and on to fighting the fight fans want to see.