I mean, I know Shane is on top and beat down Margarito and everything. But Hopkins was still considered the best LH in the world like Mosley is at 147 and Calzaghe didn't get any credit for beating him and understandably so.
Mayweather should have to dominate Mosley in order to be immune from the type of criticism that Joe got for not beating Hopkins convincingly. It's only fair. And plenty of people say Hopkins ducked Calzaghe in 2002 and they have a right to stand by that, even though I think Joe would've pulled out of the fight with a freak injury or something if Hopkins decided to fight him.
I tend not to like whiteboys, especially British, but I don't mind Joe Calzaghe.
Not many guys have been World Champion for well over a decade and retired undefeated. Also, for him to unify his division, then go and win a World title at Light-Heavyweight against the great Bernard Hopkins (long before Bernard destroyed Kelly Pavlik) is kinda impressive.
Incredibly, I actually tend to agree with that!
I tend not to like whiteboys, especially British, but I don't mind Joe Calzaghe.
Not many guys have been World Champion for well over a decade and retired undefeated. Also, for him to unify his division, then go and win a World title at Light-Heavyweight against the great Bernard Hopkins (long before Bernard destroyed Kelly Pavlik) is kinda impressive.
Yea but what kills me is that those same 95% fans who say Floyd opponent has zero chance of winning are the same fans who will try to make those wins greater than what they really... If Floyd is really fighting a guy who has no chance of winning then you should not be giving Floyd no credit... Me personally I never gave Tito credit for KO'ing Thiam just cuz I knew Thiam had zero chance of winning... I just find it weird that they downplay his opponent so much before the fight... And, then after the fight they want to upgrade his opponent....
This is where the problem lies... just because your favored and better than the other guy doesn't mean you don't deserve credit it just means your that damn good.
Jermain Taylor is an excellent fighter with great skill. Mayorga simply isn't.
Jermaine Taylor has good skills, not great. I don't know who you think you're kidding there. And he's also been knocked out three times and would have never beaten a fighter on Mosley's level..
Yes it is,Calzaghe is better than floyd by his own standards!!Calzaghe beat 2 ring legends,floyd only beat 1,besides Mosley is beating him so it won't be 2!!:boxing:
Floyd and Calzaghe are comparable to some extent in this way. Floyd fought better guys because he is a better fighter, but both took calculated risks. They both played it smart in and out of the ring, minimized their risks, and kept their 0.
watch out pretty soon people will be saying mayweather is no spring chicken himself.
he ain't .....he's 33.
but he is still very close to a prime fighter.
Sure I did somewhat. I think that guys like Sobat, Brewer, and Viet are the same level as Ndou and Bruseless. The thing that gives Floyd's resume at that time any credibility are his wins over Castillo and Corrales. But other than that, his resume is pretty much neck and neck with Calzaghe's. Who did Chavez or Carlos Hernandez ever beat? Or Manfredy for that matter? Genaro Hernandez pulled a quit job over Oscar and never fought again after Floyd beat him. It's even worse than giving Hatton credit for beating Tszyu other than the biased ref factor.
Hernandez wasnt a good win?? Wow dude.
He was the Super Feather Weight Champion of the World.
i still don't see what the argument is about....calzaghe doesn't get much credit b/c almost half of the ppl think hopkins won the fight....throw in the fact that hopkins was in his 40's......
if mayweather struggles to beat shane, many ppl will say a younger shane would've given floyd the business....
no double standard, just facts.
you calzaghe fans try way too hard....unless mayweather slaps his way to a decision and mosley looks good at 1st then gets tired then you shouldnt talk....
I'm not a fan of Joe Calzaghe at all homie. I just think that if Floyd gets an iffy decision over Shane he should get the same backlash that Joe does.
Floyd fans dont give a shit about Mitchell.
JMM was a tune up.
Ndou was a toe to toe war with a guy with sick KO Power.
Judah was a good win.
Clottey has never done anything. EVER. IN HIS WHOLE CAREER.
Quintana has a better resume then Clottey.
Quintana has a better resume than Clottey??? Clottey has never done anything in his life???? WTF?
Did you just compare Floyd and Calzaghes resume with a str8 face?
Calzaghe would kill for Floyds resume.
Sure I did somewhat. I think that guys like Sobat, Brewer, and Viet are the same level as Ndou and Bruseless. The thing that gives Floyd's resume at that time any credibility are his wins over Castillo and Corrales. But other than that, his resume is pretty much neck and neck with Calzaghe's. Who did Chavez or Carlos Hernandez ever beat? Or Manfredy for that matter? Genaro Hernandez pulled a quit job over Oscar and never fought again after Floyd beat him. It's even worse than giving Hatton credit for beating Tszyu other than the biased ref factor.
Right, you won't give Floyd credit for Clottey but you would give him credit for Ndou, Mitchell, Judah, JMM but not Clottey... Yea OK...
Then I guess the division is ass....
Floyd fans dont give a shit about Mitchell.
JMM was a tune up.
Ndou was a toe to toe war with a guy with sick KO Power.
Judah was a good win.
Clottey has never done anything. EVER. IN HIS WHOLE CAREER.
Quintana has a better resume then Clottey.
I wouldnt give Floyd credit for beating Clottey either. Especially when Clotteys best win doesnt exist.
I keep hearing Top 5 WW. If Clottey is a Top 5 WW then that means the division is ass.
Right, you won't give Floyd credit for Clottey but you would give him credit for Ndou, Mitchell, Judah, JMM but not Clottey... Yea OK...
Then I guess the division is ass....
I agree with that Burner. Cotto and Margarito are shot now and if Floyd beats Shane and decides to go on I would like to see him fight Martinez or Paul at 154 or maybe fight Bradley.
After Shane he will take out Pac.
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