Robert Helenius TKO8 Lamon Brewster...

IMO Helenius looked pretty solid and should be EBU champion within a year given his talent and being coached by Ulli Wegner/promoted by SE...

I saw quite a few of his professional bouts. He never was happy with the way his boxing career turned out. Gunnar Bärlund was the top 3 ranked challenger for Joe Louis's heavyweight title though. Made the Ring Magazine cover too. Yeah I remember you having that cover as your avatar a couple of months ago. Wasn't Bärlund swedish by the way? :)

Finland has never had that boxing tradition as Denmark and to some extent Sweden. Still I remember Tarmo Uusivirta. He was decent as a pro. I best remember him for suffering a spectacular KO as an AM fighter though :lol1: I saw quite a few of his professional bouts. He never was happy with the way his boxing career turned out. Gunnar Bärlund was the top 3 ranked challenger for Joe Louis's heavyweight title though. Made the Ring Magazine cover too.

If you're talking about world championship level, probably, but I think he will have a decent amount of success. Finland hasn't ever had a world champ and only one boxer so far has even managed to compete for one so the expectations aren't all that high. If he makes it to the EBU belt and defends it a couple of times, that'd already be considered very good. Finland has never had that boxing tradition as Denmark and to some extent Sweden. Still I remember Tarmo Uusivirta. He was decent as a pro. I best remember him for suffering a spectacular KO as an AM fighter though :lol1:

Just for you and others Nelson who were interested in the Random Testing thing... before the fight Sauerland was interviewed and he said that they had in fact signed this deal almost a year before with the NADA and that every athlete of Sauerland and everyone they are facing has it in the contracts that they are availabe for random testing... He said it costs him around 6 figures... But the tests were the reason why the supposed opponent got caught... He said that the risk of loosing money is there... if a fighter gets tested positive short before a bout but he is willing to take the money risk for making sure it is a clean sport. Good info. I doubt they tested Andre Ward though. I hope they do before a showdown with AA or before an eventual rematch with Kessler. On topic I just finished watching Helenius. Damn Brewster took a beating. He definetely should retire, because he was nothing but a heavybag in the end.

Helenius is entertaining but I predict him getting savagely beaten when he steps up. He's just too slow. If you're talking about world championship level, probably, but I think he will have a decent amount of success. Finland hasn't ever had a world champ and only one boxer so far has even managed to compete for one so the expectations aren't all that high. If he makes it to the EBU belt and defends it a couple of times, that'd already be considered very good.

here it is: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7384224#post7384224 Alright... you were faster *loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool*

what a night :D I watched all my people winning. live :D first Sylvester, than Karo Murat and last but not least Helenius. Did u hear Ulli Wegner, also Athur Abrahams and Marco Hucks trainer, screaming "uppercut! uppercut!" right after he land this BIIIG uppercut. fantastic. vote Ulli Wegner 4 trainer of the year!! ahaha

Is Helenius completely Finnish, though? I know Asikainen was born there, but is half Moroccan... I don't know how they perceive the latter, but he seems as suomalainen as anyone I've seen (through interviews and whatnot), despite his rather darker appearance. That's a shame. Brewster still has name value, and more publicity should've been warranted Suomessa - especially if there's a possibility of Helenius moving up the European ranks and giving some much-needed credibility to Finnish boxing. It'd be cool if he could face a British HW sometime. That way I'd either get to see it live, or otherwise talk to people about it around here. Asikainen is half-Moroccan, yes, but at his best he was quite a celebrity here compared to other boxers. Most people in Finland have atleast heard of Asikainen while only the ones who follow boxing know who Helenius is. The thing is that Asikainen always represented Finland, while Helenius confusingly seems to fight out of Germany while representing Sweden. Still, I think the Helenius-Brewster fight should have received a bit more coverage here, it's a fairly notable fight even if Brewster is old, one-eyed and washed up at this point in his career. Most news sites seem to have reported the outcome of Helenius-Brewster now, but there was little talk before the fight happened. I don't care whether Helenius is Finnish or not though, he seems to be a decent heavyweight prospect who is stepping up fast and has good management. I'm looking forward to seeing him fight again.

Just for you and others Nelson who were interested in the Random Testing thing... before the fight Sauerland was interviewed and he said that they had in fact signed this deal almost a year before with the NADA and that every athlete of Sauerland and everyone they are facing has it in the contracts that they are availabe for random testing... He said it costs him around 6 figures... But the tests were the reason why the supposed opponent got caught... He said that the risk of loosing money is there... if a fighter gets tested positive short before a bout but he is willing to take the money risk for making sure it is a clean sport. here it is: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7384224#post7384224

I am watching the fight right now. I'm quite impressed by the novice finn. He actually gets some good leverage into his punches despite his lanky appearance. Just for you and others Nelson who were interested in the Random Testing thing... before the fight Sauerland was interviewed and he said that they had in fact signed this deal almost a year before with the NADA and that every athlete of Sauerland and everyone they are facing has it in the contracts that they are availabe for random testing... He said it costs him around 6 figures... But the tests were the reason why the supposed opponent got caught... He said that the risk of loosing money is there... if a fighter gets tested positive short before a bout but he is willing to take the money risk for making sure it is a clean sport.

One thing more thing, nearly all of Ulli Wegner's fighters are very strong-nerved and that's what wins the fight for them to 80%... And Ulli's voice must be like a remote control: He saw that Brewster is open for the uppercut, he screams "uppercut" to Helenius and the Finn delivers what was the beginning of the end for Brewster...in 2-3 years Helenius might very well be a viable title contender... are you kidding? 4 more fight and sauerland will throw helenius with haye in the ring! all sauerland heavies will go for haye! thats what they planning believe me!

One thing more thing, nearly all of Ulli Wegner's fighters are very strong-nerved and that's what wins the fight for them to 80%... And Ulli's voice must be like a remote control: He saw that Brewster is open for the uppercut, he screams "uppercut" to Helenius and the Finn delivers what was the beginning of the end for Brewster...in 2-3 years Helenius might very well be a viable title contender...

He certainly couldn't be any worse. However Helenius fights out of Sweden/Germany.. He doesn't receive much hype here due to this compared to Asikainen. and if he doesn't make it we can always say that it's because he's Swedish :D

...Helenius landed a hard right uppercut to send Lamon stumbling into the next turnbuckle being in no condition to continue...time was 2:31 min of round 8. Good win for the Finn who could fight for a EU/EBU belt next...this was Helenius 11th pro fight... First off Brewster def. needs to retire... there ain't nothing Relentless anymore about him... he looked like the Brewster of old for the first 30 seconds and after it was nothing that he pretty much tried to win a boxing match... nothing against him but he won't win a boxing match... First time I saw Helenius... even though his opponent is shot I was impressed with him... you have to see how it works against better opposition but he seems to be a natural to boxing... for such a lanky man he has good movement and feel for a boxing match... even counter shot at times... he looks natural and very loose in the ring... I think in the future he can def. take on guys like Dimitrenko and win... I don't think it will be enough ever for the elite Heavys though... Other seen fights: Murat like stated is a smart fighter... decent to good punching power... same goes for his boxing abilities... Sylvester is decent... I don't think he will ever beat an elite MW but if you match him right he can be a champion for a few years.

brewster please retire. your a nice guy. enjoy your life now.

I need to see this guy. Sounds better than Tony Halme, at least. Hyvä Suomi! http://i47.tinypic.com/3499gns.gif well thats not hard thing to do... :D ...Helenius landed a hard right uppercut to send Lamon stumbling into the next turnbuckle being in no condition to continue...time was 2:31 min of round 8. Good win for the Finn who could fight for a EU/EBU belt next...this was Helenius 11th pro fight... well Sauerland man Francesco Pianeta has the EU belt to so that fight is easy to make if Sauerland wants it...

Is Helenius completely Finnish, though? I know Asikainen was born there, but is half Moroccan... I don't know how they perceive the latter, but he seems as suomalainen as anyone I've seen (through interviews and whatnot), despite his rather darker appearance. That's a shame. Brewster still has name value, and more publicity should've been warranted Suomessa - especially if there's a possibility of Helenius moving up the European ranks and giving some much-needed credibility to Finnish boxing. It'd be cool if he could face a British HW sometime. That way I'd either get to see it live, or otherwise talk to people about it around here. Helenius was born in Stockholm I think, his father is Finnish and they moved from Sweden to Finland when Robert was like 4 years old

I am watching the fight right now. I'm quite impressed by the novice finn. He actually gets some good leverage into his punches despite his lanky appearance.

However Helenius fights out of Sweden/Germany.. He doesn't receive much hype here due to this compared to Asikainen. Is Helenius completely Finnish, though? I know Asikainen was born there, but is half Moroccan... I don't know how they perceive the latter, but he seems as suomalainen as anyone I've seen (through interviews and whatnot), despite his rather darker appearance. Meaning that his fights aren't as talked about as Asikainen's were. In fact I didn't find anything on the news about his upcoming fight with Brewster. That's a shame. Brewster still has name value, and more publicity should've been warranted Suomessa - especially if there's a possibility of Helenius moving up the European ranks and giving some much-needed credibility to Finnish boxing. It'd be cool if he could face a British HW sometime. That way I'd either get to see it live, or otherwise talk to people about it around here.