Williams and Goosen offered Martinez MORE money then he would make fighjting Pavlik for the 160 Pound title. Team Williams is awiting Martinez's response.
Just wondering because I didnt know it was ducking if you fight for a Lineal Championship instead.
Just my thoughts. I dont think Martinez is ducking Paul hes just going after the BIGGER fight. Right?
Good.
Then why the fukk do you clowns say Floyd ducked Margarito when he chose to fight for the Lineal WW Championship of the world instead
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Fighting Pavlik for the title cannot be considered a duck move!!If Sergio beat him he's middleweight champ!!He's already fought the Punisher,rendering the Sergio is scared of the Punisher theory null & void!!Besides it would be even sweeter if the Punisher-Martinez is for the middleweight title,now wouldn't it??
Williams and his team ALREADY has offered Martinez the re-match and more cash then martinez would make vs. Pavlik.
Williams ducks no man.
If that's the case, I guess Martinez will be forcing Paul to get some more plastic surgery.
Pavlik/Williams is probably not going to happen anytime soon because Williams wants 50/50.
Williams/Martinez II probably won't have happen because I don't think Williams is going to be vocal about fighting Martinez again. I think Martinez would make the clear adjustments and beat Williams.
Pavlik/Martinez would be easier to make and negotiations wouldn't be a problem what so ever.
Williams and his team ALREADY has offered Martinez the re-match and more cash then martinez would make vs. Pavlik.
Williams ducks no man.
One other point that hasn't been brought up.
One of the judges in the PWill/Martinez fight gave it a score of 119-110, which if you watch the fight, it's obviously shady business.
Martinez probably does not want to chance another paid off decision on the scorecards vs PWill.
He's already been screwed over twice in one year. Not saying that it's PWill's fault, but would you run to fight the same fight, from the same promoter after that's happened.
Trust me on this, Sergio is afraid of NO ONE.
That's a fair assessment. That one scorecard was a sick joke. I could understand Sergio's attitude about a rematch because of that.
Pavlik/Williams is probably not going to happen anytime soon because Williams wants 50/50.
Williams/Martinez II probably won't have happen because I don't think Williams is going to be vocal about fighting Martinez again. I think Martinez would make the clear adjustments and beat Williams.
Pavlik/Martinez would be easier to make and negotiations wouldn't be a problem what so ever.
It is true that Martinez is trying to take less money to fight Pavlik than a rematch with Paul Williams. Why does everybody nitpick every little action that Paul Williams takes? At least he hasn't called out Chavez Jr. or Vanes like Martinez has. And if he did, he'd get ripped a new one for it. I thought the Martinez-Williams fight was close, but people need to quit talking out of their ass and calling Williams a ducker when he's offering Martinez the rematch right now as we speak.
One other point that hasn't been brought up.
One of the judges in the PWill/Martinez fight gave it a score of 119-110, which if you watch the fight, it's obviously shady business.
Martinez probably does not want to chance another paid off decision on the scorecards vs PWill.
He's already been screwed over twice in one year. Not saying that it's PWill's fault, but would you run to fight the same fight, from the same promoter after that's happened.
Trust me on this, Sergio is afraid of NO ONE.
Last i checked. Williams had his hand raised. Martinez didn't.
Doesn't stop you from saying the same thing about Pacquiao-Marquez.
Bingo!
Hopefully Bingo is not included in Reflexes' words to burn list.
Doesnt 'Ducking" usaully means they are avoiding the other at all cost? if im not mistaken they already fought and sergio got in that ass... he just wants to move on, shit if he cant get a shot at the middle wieght title why the hell not?!
Williams and Goosen offered Martinez MORE money then he would make fighjting Pavlik for the 160 Pound title. Team Williams is awiting Martinez's response.
Just wondering because I didnt know it was ducking if you fight for a Lineal Championship instead.
Just my thoughts. I dont think Martinez is ducking Paul hes just going after the BIGGER fight. Right?
Good.
Then why the fukk do you clowns say Floyd ducked Margarito when he chose to fight for the Lineal WW Championship of the world instead
?????????
Nah, dude is going for the MW championship by outboxing Pavlik and smacking him around like crazy in route winning another belt.
Williams and Goosen offered Martinez MORE money then he would make fighjting Pavlik for the 160 Pound title. Team Williams is awiting Martinez's response.
Just wondering because I didnt know it was ducking if you fight for a Lineal Championship instead.
Just my thoughts. I dont think Martinez is ducking Paul hes just going after the BIGGER fight. Right?
Good.
Then why the fukk do you clowns say Floyd ducked Margarito when he chose to fight for the Lineal WW Championship of the world instead
?????????
links or i call it duck tales:bsflag:
He is looking for a bigger money fight if Martinez goes for Pavlik, he already gave Williams all he could handle.
And Williams is way better than Baldomir.
How is Sergio ducking Paul, when Sergio already put a beating on Paul. He's making a smart move IMO. If he beats Kelly he'll get way more fight opportunities.
You know you can't say that on here. Reflexes will go all emo on you with his unnaturally high-estrogen levels.
Last i checked. Williams had his hand raised. Martinez didn't.
I'm not one making that specific claim, but I figured I'd correct the comparison anyway.
It would be more accurate if first- Pavlik was in same weight division as Williams, and second- Pavlik was a far inferior fighter to Williams.
Given that, I still wouldn't say he is ducking Williams. He has fought him before, and he can fight him again, after.
As far as the criticism goes, Sergio is not claiming to be the best p4p fighter of all time. When a fighter props himself up to that level, then he will be held to that standard.
Floyd calls himself the greatest of all time, and if he does not live up to that proclamation, he will be criticized.