When do you think Cheato began using plaster?

Let's see the results up to now... 69.1% of 81 voters think Cheato used plaster before the Mosley fight. 12.3% of 81 voters think Cheato tried to use plaster only for the Mosley fight. 7.4% of 81 voters think Cheato never used plaster. 11.1% of 81 voters don't care about this. This is what I expected. More opinions and voters please?

fuking aye that's some hardcore investigating there! nice find! facts??? or your retarded 10 year old opinions??? with a punch? watch the fight idiot lujan was getting clobbered all day. If indeed marg had plaster lujan would have been knocked the fuk out that night. Nice try though. yup cintron's only losses are to margarito. he got knocked out twice in the 6th and 5th round. your remark shows no evidence or in your words facts to margarito cheating. The only fact you mentioned is that cintron did get embarrassed twice by margarito. and the fight never made the half way mark which plaster wouldn't even be hardened if he had it. Fail again! "he couldn't knock out clottey This remark makes no fuken sense. What's the point of #3? He couldn't knock him out so that means he had plaster?? according to your first "fact" Marg has had plaster since lujan. he flought clottey after lujan so shouldn't have tony knocked out clottey? clottey wasn't even hurt in that fight. you're on a roll buddy fail #3 another retarded posts by you. it makes no sense. What are you 13???? ok i take that last comment back you sound like you're about 12. You make no fuken sense and your logic is hopeless easily beating???? :rofl: I guess plaster also helps your run through every punch your opponent hits you with right? plaster gives you better stamina then your opponent right? plaster also gives you better accuracy right? Cotto must have had a magnet in his chin to pull in the 250 times he was hit with power shots. Im sure the plaster had something to do with cotto constantly getting smacked in the face and killed to the body. Lastly anyone who thinks cotto could handle 250 power shots with loaded gloves is a joke. Let me guess did pac have loaded gloves to as pac whooped his ass worse then margarito did and busted his face worse than margarito did! Anyone who watched the cotto fight know's theres a hundred things that we went wrong for cotto that night, yet only the idiots cling to Tony cheating because it makes them feel better about their hero taking 2 knees to quit. out of all the posts about marg this has to be one of the most pathetic, biased, no facts and peer retarded opinion by someone no older than 13 years of age. Wow, you're really pissed off. It was about time someone came to defend Cheato. Please mark the "this is all speculation and bullshit" option.

I think that after loosing to a fighter like Daniel Santos in 2004, he must have been pretty pissed off. fuking aye that's some hardcore investigating there! nice find! Here are some facts to think about: facts??? or your retarded 10 year old opinions??? 1. His very next fight after Santos was against Sebastian Lujan in 2005. Lujan almost lost an ear when Margo partially detached it with a punch, something very strange to see. with a punch? watch the fight idiot lujan was getting clobbered all day. If indeed marg had plaster lujan would have been knocked the fuk out that night. Nice try though. 2. Since then, he fought Cintron 2 times. The only 2 defeats in Kermit's 32-2 record. yup cintron's only losses are to margarito. he got knocked out twice in the 6th and 5th round. your remark shows no evidence or in your words facts to margarito cheating. The only fact you mentioned is that cintron did get embarrassed twice by margarito. and the fight never made the half way mark which plaster wouldn't even be hardened if he had it. Fail again! 3. He couldn't knockout Clottey, but Clottey has a pretty tight defense and he was overprotecting himself because of a broken hand in that fight. "he couldn't knock out clottey This remark makes no fuken sense. What's the point of #3? He couldn't knock him out so that means he had plaster?? according to your first "fact" Marg has had plaster since lujan. he flought clottey after lujan so shouldn't have tony knocked out clottey? clottey wasn't even hurt in that fight. you're on a roll buddy fail #3 4. He couldn't win over Williams, but Williams is the kind of boxer that throws like 1000 punches in 12 rounds and didn't let Margo do anything on that fight. another retarded posts by you. it makes no sense. What are you 13???? 5. After losing to Santos, Margo accumulated a 7-2 record with 6 KO's. One defeat against Williams (a guy he could not damage) and one defeat against Mosley (after the plaster discovery). These 2 guys did not taste the plaster. ok i take that last comment back you sound like you're about 12. You make no fuken sense and your logic is hopeless 6. He inflicted the first loss to Cotto. Miguel was easily beating Margo but lost the fight and ended with a brutally wrecked face never before seen on him. easily beating???? :rofl: I guess plaster also helps your run through every punch your opponent hits you with right? plaster gives you better stamina then your opponent right? plaster also gives you better accuracy right? Cotto must have had a magnet in his chin to pull in the 250 times he was hit with power shots. Im sure the plaster had something to do with cotto constantly getting smacked in the face and killed to the body. Lastly anyone who thinks cotto could handle 250 power shots with loaded gloves is a joke. Let me guess did pac have loaded gloves to as pac whooped his ass worse then margarito did and busted his face worse than margarito did! Anyone who watched the cotto fight know's theres a hundred things that we went wrong for cotto that night, yet only the idiots cling to Tony cheating because it makes them feel better about their hero taking 2 knees to quit. out of all the posts about marg this has to be one of the most pathetic, biased, no facts and peer retarded opinion by someone no older than 13 years of age.

personally Marg should recieve jailtime, Boxing is a dangerous sport involved with one competator trying to knockout their opponent, this is dangerous in its own right and their have been deaths in boxing, adding a rock hard substance to your wraps should be considered either assualt with a deadly weapon or intent to kill. not only this but he uses Cleto Reyes gloves which are famous for being punchers gloves meaning their is less padding situated over the knuckles. I'm very inclined to think that way.

you can be punished for something you did you cant be punished for something you're a suspect of.. That's the other side of the coin. Well expressed.

you can be punished for something you did you cant be punished for something you're a suspect of.. he was already punished for trying to cheat.. alot have been taken away from AM already. he deserves a second chance just like everybody else. if fans doesnt accept that, just put yourselves in his shoes.

personally Marg should recieve jailtime, Boxing is a dangerous sport involved with one competator trying to knockout their opponent, this is dangerous in its own right and their have been deaths in boxing, adding a rock hard substance to your wraps should be considered either assualt with a deadly weapon or intent to kill. not only this but he uses Cleto Reyes gloves which are famous for being punchers gloves meaning their is less padding situated over the knuckles.

after the paul williams fight

marg's trainer said himself he always wrapped tony's hands the same way(incidentally his wraps were illegal also with tape across knuckles). He was caught fair and square and I think he has used them for a long long time. http://i46.tinypic.com/20qf2gx.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/b8wwus.jpg

He busted Williams up pretty bad, but only started to fight for the second half of the fight. strange, too. marg's trainer said himself he always wrapped tony's hands the same way(incidentally his wraps were illegal also with tape across knuckles). He was caught fair and square and I think he has used them for a long long time.

honestly no even though P and his trainer say he can still do it there isn't a market there for him let's be honest, while P is an elite fighter, he has no market share whatsoever Goossen fkked that up by sending him to Cali for the vast majority of his fights, never developing a market in areas where he could pull in numbers like DC or ATL now people will counter that those markets are dry but if so how do you explain Fernando Guerrero's pull in VA? he is doing really good gate numbers in the DC area PWill is best served fighting the elite at 154 and 160 where he can win and be the man at both weights Maybe he can do 147 like his trainer says, but I don't think it would be healthy for him to keep jumping divisions like that. Can you imagine him fighting Pacman @ 147 lbs !! LOL http://i48.tinypic.com/2echssj.jpg I think the market will eventually come for him no matter what weight he fights in. He's such a good fighter. I saw him win by 1 point over Martinez. Many people say Martinez won. What you think? That was a heck of a fight.

Eaner0919, Do you think that Williams will have a 147 lbs fight again in the near future? Nobody wanted to fight him down there and maybe his body won't tolerate that drain anymore. Do you think he will stay for a while in 154 or go up to 160? honestly no even though P and his trainer say he can still do it there isn't a market there for him let's be honest, while P is an elite fighter, he has no market share whatsoever Goossen fkked that up by sending him to Cali for the vast majority of his fights, never developing a market in areas where he could pull in numbers like DC or ATL now people will counter that those markets are dry but if so how do you explain Fernando Guerrero's pull in VA? he is doing really good gate numbers in the DC area PWill is best served fighting the elite at 154 and 160 where he can win and be the man at both weights

Eaner0919, Do you think that Williams will have a 147 lbs fight again in the near future? Nobody wanted to fight him down there and maybe his body won't tolerate that drain anymore. Do you think he will stay for a while in 154 or go up to 160?

LOL! You make an excellent point. it would have been had it been true Capetillo is not training Tony

but one can be viewed as assault with a deadly weapon the other is an illegal attempt to gain a competitive edge two vastly different things Co Sign. Awesome distillation of both views. Props.

What's strange to me is that he's still with Capetillo. If Capetillo did it without his knowledge as he claims, he should hate the guy for ruining his carrer. If i was Margarito I would've sued him. Therefore, I think that Margarito knew what was in his wraps and had been doing it for a long time and just got careless and complacent. LOL! You make an excellent point.

but one can be viewed as assault with a deadly weapon the other is an illegal attempt to gain a competitive edge two vastly different things That's the difference I see. Very well expressed.

thats pretty well thought tornillo. its very possible and i think margo has been using plaster for a long time now :sad: ..........Thanks

honestly using the stoppage angle has no merits IMO he has stopped every welter he has faced since 99 with the exceptions I showed previous. All three have never been stopped and two of them had never been down prior to them facing Tony. Will somebody, hurry up and tell me, what the CSAC decision was on a proven cheater? I guess, what Im trying to say is, have they determined a time of execution for this motherfuker? All this Marga-cheato dick suking, is making me sick! :blow:

honestly using the stoppage angle has no merits IMO he has stopped every welter he has faced since 99 with the exceptions I showed previous. All three have never been stopped and two of them had never been down prior to them facing Tony.