Which one of these guys will have the best career and who is the best among future stacked middleweight division?
I personally think Korobav or Lara beat Jacobs. But between Lara and Korobov I'm still not sure.
You could also throw in Porter in this list, But I think hes to small for these guys.
i know quillin's had a lot of injury problems but i think he's finally healed up and is scheduled to fight in a few weeks. last fight was canceled due to an emergency appendectomy, not an injury.
btw, what do you think of fernando guerrero?
I was working with a promoter who had a heavyweight on that Quillen fight. He ruined the entire card because once he dropped out there wasnt enough rounds for the fight to be sanctioned. It was at a club and Jadakiss was going to perform after wards. The promoter was going to 18 shows a year and after that he said **** it.
I actually been watching some Vid on Guerrero, he got skills for sure. I don't know anything about his amateur background though so I don't know the extent of his experience. I def would not put him in with the top prospects yet though. I would like to see how he handles a physical in style fight, I don't think he has the tools for it.
Porter seems a little small for 160 IMO. Jacobs lost to Korobov in the Amateurs, I know I know it doesn't mean anything but Jacobs power against top prospects looks non-existent. I honestly haven't seen enough of Jones and Henry to make any comment about them. They are all good prospects, but I wouldnt put them anywhere near Lara or Korobov.
I also saw someone mention Green and Quillen. I don't know why Green disappeared for awhile but he just signed to a promoter that I know, and hes def going to push the shit out of him. Quillen's career looks over, he was on the fast track but he busted his hand, hes pulled out of more fights then I can count anymore.
Andrade looks like a promising prospect but in an un-televised fight not to long ago he went through a war against a no one, my buddy who fought on the card said he was lucky to get the win.
i know quillin's had a lot of injury problems but i think he's finally healed up and is scheduled to fight in a few weeks. last fight was canceled due to an emergency appendectomy, not an injury.
btw, what do you think of fernando guerrero?
Porter seems a little small for 160 IMO. Jacobs lost to Korobov in the Amateurs, I know I know it doesn't mean anything but Jacobs power against top prospects looks non-existent. I honestly haven't seen enough of Jones and Henry to make any comment about them. They are all good prospects, but I wouldnt put them anywhere near Lara or Korobov.
I also saw someone mention Green and Quillen. I don't know why Green disappeared for awhile but he just signed to a promoter that I know, and hes def going to push the shit out of him. Quillen's career looks over, he was on the fast track but he busted his hand, hes pulled out of more fights then I can count anymore.
Andrade looks like a promising prospect but in an un-televised fight not to long ago he went through a war against a no one, my buddy who fought on the card said he was lucky to get the win.
if your talking about joe green he was scheduled to fight martinez a yr ago but pulled out due to kidney stones n didnt fight for a while
You sure about that?
Shawn Porter, Danny Jacobs, Omar Henry and Mike Jones are 4 of the best prospects on the planet.
Porter seems a little small for 160 IMO. Jacobs lost to Korobov in the Amateurs, I know I know it doesn't mean anything but Jacobs power against top prospects looks non-existent. I honestly haven't seen enough of Jones and Henry to make any comment about them. They are all good prospects, but I wouldnt put them anywhere near Lara or Korobov.
I also saw someone mention Green and Quillen. I don't know why Green disappeared for awhile but he just signed to a promoter that I know, and hes def going to push the shit out of him. Quillen's career looks over, he was on the fast track but he busted his hand, hes pulled out of more fights then I can count anymore.
Andrade looks like a promising prospect but in an un-televised fight not to long ago he went through a war against a no one, my buddy who fought on the card said he was lucky to get the win.
anybody seen or know enough about jermell charlo or keith thurman?
only seen footage of charlo but im unsure of his dimensions. never seen thurman fight but i've heard good things.
theyre both currently campaigning at welter.
You sure about that?
Shawn Porter, Danny Jacobs, Omar Henry and Mike Jones are 4 of the best prospects on the planet.
ahhh. mike jones too. i think his future will be at 154 as well.
Nothing, just a random thought.
Top fighters out of the U.S. use to have extensive amateur careers, and multiple invites to nationals, olympics, etc.
Look at guys like Tarvar, Zab, Mosley, Hoya, Vargas, etc all had great Amateur records. Look at our prospects now, and they havnt done half what these guys did.
All I'm saying is the U.S. is slacking with it's young prospects, I don't think that can even be argued against.
You sure about that?
Shawn Porter, Danny Jacobs, Omar Henry and Mike Jones are 4 of the best prospects on the planet.
in order i'd go lara, guerrero, korobov and then jacobs.
-i understand that jacobs is getting the most hype but i think he's a bit overrated as a prospect. he's a like a jack of all trades top prospect, but nothing about him really stands out. he's looked less impressive and more hittable as he's stepped up his competition
-korobov is good as well. very economical fighter who has a great understanding of distance, but i think he's a bit stiff. in his last fight it looked like he could have trouble with boxers and movers.
-guerrero's a bit of a wild card in those divisions (jr.mid/mid). he's probably got the most exciting style. the kid throws effortless combos with easy power, but i also think he's well schooled. barry hunter's a very good trainer as far as fundamentals. if he and korobov were to fight down the line, it'd be an absolute war.
-i just think lara's one of the most well-rounded prospects in the entire game and my favorite out of all the cuban prospects. great upper body movement, smooth combinations, great defense and reflexes. it jsut looks like he sees everything in slow motion.
lots of great young fighters at 154-160 and some potentially awesome matchups.
these 4 +:angulo, kirkland, porter (if he stays at 154), omar henry, joe greene, austin trout (if he stays our of jail), demetrius andrade!, peter quillin, golovkin, etc.
What does this have to do with anything??
Nothing, just a random thought.
Top fighters out of the U.S. use to have extensive amateur careers, and multiple invites to nationals, olympics, etc.
Look at guys like Tarvar, Zab, Mosley, Hoya, Vargas, etc all had great Amateur records. Look at our prospects now, and they havnt done half what these guys did.
All I'm saying is the U.S. is slacking with it's young prospects, I don't think that can even be argued against.
Lara is the most talented out of those 3 IMO. Lara is amazing.
If Lara keeps progressing your statement will prove correct. The dude is on another level. He rarely gets out of position.
Jacobs has the most talent of the ones you named and the most backing to be a superstar in the future. They all have a shot though, this division will be pretty freaking stacked once they all come of age.
I didnt know that about Korobov. It's no wonder he looks like the terminator in the ring, dude has been breed for fighting. I'm going to have to check for those other names you listed, don't know a whole lot about them.
I know when he fights on the under cards in NYC, Arum finds him the two hottest russian girls and has them go all over Brooklyn with him. LoL
One thing is for sure, when I see guys like Lara and Korobov coming over here with 300+ amateur fights, and basically lived their entire lives just to box, I really don't know how American Boxing can compete with that.
These guys are basically championship, world class level, as soon as they go pro.
What does this have to do with anything??
Matvey Korobov won
Gold at the European Championships 2006
Gold World Cup 2005
2X Gold World Amateur Championships 2005 & 2007
His amateur record is 310 Wins 11 losses
Also an interesting factoid is that Korobov's parents moved to Florida when he was 13 or 14, he decided to stay in Russia by himself without his family cuz he thought that it would be best for his Amateur boxing career. That's dedication.
You have to throw Golovkin, N'jikam, and Pirog in the mix at 160 too.
I agree with you on Jacobs, i think he's a step below Korobov, Lara, Golovkin. N'jikam and Pirog not sure yet.
I didnt know that about Korobov. It's no wonder he looks like the terminator in the ring, dude has been breed for fighting. I'm going to have to check for those other names you listed, don't know a whole lot about them.
I know when he fights on the under cards in NYC, Arum finds him the two hottest russian girls and has them go all over Brooklyn with him. LoL
One thing is for sure, when I see guys like Lara and Korobov coming over here with 300+ amateur fights, and basically lived their entire lives just to box, I really don't know how American Boxing can compete with that.
These guys are basically championship, world class level, as soon as they go pro.
Matvey Korobov won
Gold at the European Championships 2006
Gold World Cup 2005
2X Gold World Amateur Championships 2005 & 2007
His amateur record is 310 Wins 11 losses
Also an interesting factoid is that Korobov's parents moved to Florida when he was 13 or 14, he decided to stay in Russia by himself without his family cuz he thought that it would be best for his Amateur boxing career. That's dedication.
You have to throw Golovkin, N'jikam, and Pirog in the mix at 160 too.
I agree with you on Jacobs, i think he's a step below Korobov, Lara, Golovkin. N'jikam and Pirog not sure yet.
Korobov is a gold medalist from Russia with 200 amateur fights, and Lara had like 300 amateur fights and I believe also might of won gold. Korobov beat Jacobs as an amateur. They both might be future p4p material. Korobov IMO looks as close to a sure thing as there is, hes going to be selling MSG out one day.
Thanks for the info. I'll be looking out for these two.
I only know of Porter and Jacobs. I haven't seen or heard anything about these other guys.
Korobov is a gold medalist from Russia with 200 amateur fights, and Lara had like 300 amateur fights and I believe also might of won gold. Korobov beat Jacobs as an amateur. They both might be future p4p material. Korobov IMO looks as close to a sure thing as there is, hes going to be selling MSG out one day.
Which one of these guys will have the best career and who is the best among future stacked middleweight division?
I personally think Korobav or Lara beat Jacobs. But between Lara and Korobov I'm still not sure.
You could also throw in Porter in this list, But I think hes to small for these guys.
I only know of Porter and Jacobs. I haven't seen or heard anything about these other guys.
I think Porter will eventually fight those guys but I think he starts his title fights at 147.
I think the X Factor of all the young middleweights is Fernando Guerrero.
Dont know how he got under my radar but I'm going to have to check him out. I'm excited about this division though, with the super 6, and all these young middles, I can't imagine a better weight class in the future.
Which one of these guys will have the best career and who is the best among future stacked middleweight division?
I personally think Korobav or Lara beat Jacobs. But between Lara and Korobov I'm still not sure.
You could also throw in Porter in this list, But I think hes to small for these guys.
I think Porter will eventually fight those guys but I think he starts his title fights at 147.
I think the X Factor of all the young middleweights is Fernando Guerrero.
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