He took on Corley, Bruseles and then Gatti at 140 lbs for titles. He moved to 147 to fight Shamba Mitchell, Judah and Baldomir for the lineal WW title. The cash cow came calling and he answered the bell and fought Oscar at 154lbs won a title there and some BIG MONEY. Went back down to 147 to meet Hatton for another big pay day.
All along people were calling for him to face legitimate WW like Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Williams and Mosley. I understood business is business and if made sense to bring in those dollars. Stories arose about the supposed offer to fight Margarito for 8 million dollars brought on by Bob Arum and co. This video below came to light on the internet.
If the CHERRY PICKING talk was not starting already it was surely blasting off right about now. Although many thought it would be an EASY fight for Floyd and he was offered 8 million for it he turned it down. He instead fought Judah, Baldomir, Oscar and then Hatton. Below is a video made around the time he was supposed to be getting ready for a rematch with Oscar and was involved in wrestling.
Now whether it be due to negotiations his hands the WWE giving him millions to sign a contract with them he retired. Personally I think it had to do with the amount of money he made and the fact his hands were hurting him. he took a breather announced his retirement from the sport. I hold no grudges for that every man is entitled to call it quits when he feels he has no desire to continue. in our sport when you lose the desire to fight you often get hurt inside the ring.
Fast forward to 2008 Floyd is in trouble with the IRS. His real estate investments have gone sour. he is robbed for over 7 mil in jewels. it seems the so called king might be prime for a comeback. Is it $$$ motivated fans and critics ask come on fellas with Money Mayweather it is always about the money. So it is rumored he is in the gym training again and might be coming out of retirement to take on the TOP P4P fighters and earn himself a few nice paydays. Allow him to settle up with Uncle Sam and make a few margin calls bail out some real estate debts and so forth. Now I am thinking to myself I was hoping to see Floyd come back and fight I know Marquez is no slouch but what happened to Cotto, Clottey, Mosley heck even get in there with Berto or Collazo for that matter. Ok so I swallowed that pill and accepted it I said to myself Marquez is no slouch you can never measure the size of some ones heart and Marquez is a true warrior. Floyd is coming of a 18 month layoff and this will be a decent fight. Not! Floyd was quoted as it looked like a “Father playing with his little son” Below is a clip of highlights from the onsided affair.
There have been many out there who say Floyd contradicts himself and that his OWN RULES do not apply to him. He said he fought Marquez because he called him out. He goes on and on about Haymon and his people making his fights. Below is a vide clip of Floyd being interviewed after the Cotto Pacquiao fight and after his fight with JMM in the ring…
He tells so many lies that he forgets what he said. I can't see how anyone would like someone who claims to be the best but is so reluctant to prove it. All that aside he and Pacquiao had an opportunity to make one of the biggest bouts in the history of the sport. One of the most lucrative at that. Plenty of Money is involved here enough to make it more than worth Floyd “Money” Mayweather’s wild right? Wrong he submits to just about everything in the contract and goes for a 50/50 split but on one condition Pacquiao takes RANDOM BLOOD TESTS Is this just another Mayweather ploy to get out of a fight? With all the history behind FLoyd and his statements wh knows when he is telling the truth or not. His bad guy image played him flase one time too many.
Shame for me is I think Floyd mayweather Jr is P4P the most skilled fighter in the game right now. He may be the best of this era.
Fight c and d class fighters and get praised for amazing defense. Lol.
What class do you consider Berto I would have given him an B when he was at his best but now I might down grade him to a C class.....
If you feel that's what he's fought then you're entitled to your opinion.
Same question to you my man........
I don't know about Pep but Mayweather is as good as Whitaker defensively. It's amazing at his advanced stage.
Fight c and d class fighters and get praised for amazing defense. Lol.
I am....LeFtY
I was just playing with RELOADED as he TROLLED me a bit yesterday and called me some names. Boy needs to learn some respect!!! He (RELOADED) has the IQ of a HANDBALL and he needs to take FLOYD nuts of his chin.
That's insulting to handballs. They serve a purpose. That idiot doesnt.
That's your opinion...thanks for sharing. Greatest defensive ever is debateable if you go back in boxing history (Pep, Pernell).
I don't know about Pep but Mayweather is as good as Whitaker defensively. It's amazing at his advanced stage.
Lefty,
Fighters Fraudulent jr. ducked/didnt fight;
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345719
Official Fraudulent jr. contradiction thread;
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332771
the one slick american fighter fraud jr. fought;
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=328851
Who's smarter human being pac or fraud jr.?
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=331670
Step yo Mayweather hating game up son!
Lol exposed much
Mayweather is one of the the greatest boxers of all time. The best defensive fight ever.
Undefeated, P4P the best fighter of our generation.
That's your opinion...thanks for sharing. Greatest defensive ever is debateable if you go back in boxing history (Pep, Pernell).
It is not about who he fought but who he avoided and the circumstances involved! I am sure some of us understand.
There are also levels in boxing and Quintana is at least 2 notches below the top. You lose to a guy like that you go to the back of the line even if you come back in your next fight and ice the guy in one round six months later.
That knockout doesn't erase the lose, and Williams had major consistency issues. If you can't be consistent then the guy is not really all that at the top end. Consistency in boxing is one thing winning every time, never looking out of place.
Guys like Wiliams and Margarito good fighters can win some fights but they were exactly what they were not the highly stylized versions people remember them as now.
My dude...Styles make fights....attributes, heart, determination, will power, stamina, foot work, speed, certain combinations of all things coming together. Like I said Margarito was the bully of the division at that time he gave people nightmares, Paul Williams had the combination to be Fred Kruger in Floyd dreams!!!!
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so is lefty back or is this reloaded? Im confused.....lol
I am....LeFtY
I was just playing with RELOADED as he TROLLED me a bit yesterday and called me some names. Boy needs to learn some respect!!! He (RELOADED) has the IQ of a HANDBALL and he needs to take FLOYD nuts of his chin.
Him not being ranked higher than Mayweather has nothing to do with him not being American.
Also he contrary to popular belief pac didn't fight that much better competition than Floyd.
Pac gets more credit for fighting Floyd's common opponents who were already beaten by him, and at a later time when they were older and more shot.
Only thing people keep screaming is Morales and Barrera, well so the hell what.
Floyd schooled JMM who Pac never got a clear win over and got KOd by.
He clearly showed him that he's not on his level, WITH SKILL, NOT WEIGHT for all the complainers. Let me remind you that floyd is a true welter 147lber where these guys come in as middleweights at damn near 165, so the 2lbs wasn't a real disadvantage.
He also schooled Canelo who is a young beast and right after beat the living sh^t out of Angulo who just whipped on Lara.
Floyd came back strong after being hurt by Mosley and gave him a Jedi Master level ass whipping/outclassing.
To hell with saying Shane was off 18 months.
So what, he's a professional boxer and was the champion.
If he was home eating twinkles then that is his fault, if your in that position then your supposed to keep yourself sharp with training and sparring.
Where's the excuse that Floyd was off TWO years?
Well guess what? He kept himself sharp and outclassed JMM with no problem like he was his son.
Yes pac knocked Mosley down but, he couldn't really do anything with a ONE FOOTED Mosley, when shane kept turning him he didn't even know what to do with basic movement and Shane gave no real effort, he never even through a power punch at him.
People need to stop the bias and double standards man and be fair.
HAHAHA
Pac and Floyd Common Opponents
Pac-Marquez 2-1-1 / Floyd-Marquez 1-0
Pac-ODH TKO / Floyd-ODH SD
Pac-Cotto TKO / Floyd-Cotto UD
Pac Mosley UD w/ KD / Floyd-Mosley UD
Pac-Hatton KO / Floyd-Hatton TKO
Based on their common opponents. Pacquiao did much better than Floyd.
Pacquiao gave Barrera 1 TKO loss in his entire career. And Pacquiao gave Morales his 1st ko and Tko losses. Disregarding Pac wins against Barrera and Morales and boosting May wins against Canelo. Morales and Barrera will be 1st Ballot Hall of Famer while Canelo needs more wins before getting in HOF
Pacquiao defeated more bigger opponents than Floyd. Floyd was hiding his true weight and not stepping on the scale during fight nights on his Maidana Fights. Only Flom0 believes he was still less than or equal 150 on fight nights LOL.
Pacquaio defeated Cotto and Marquez first before Floyd.
Try Again :loser:
I disagree with you. Joe Calzaghe has no losses and have won against ATGs like Bhop and Jones but no one sees him as an ATG. Timing is what important here. Floyd fought the best when there are out of their prime or nearly shot. Skill alone is not the quality you need to become an ATG.
Still, I consider him as an ATG, but not greater than Pacquiao.
The way I see it, Pacquiao had more achievements than Mayweather but they will rank Mayweather higher than Pacquiao in ATG rankings because Pac is not American. And thats the sad part for me.:sad2:
Him not being ranked higher than Mayweather has nothing to do with him not being American.
Also he contrary to popular belief pac didn't fight that much better competition than Floyd.
Pac gets more credit for fighting Floyd's common opponents who were already beaten by him, and at a later time when they were older and more shot.
Only thing people keep screaming is Morales and Barrera, well so the hell what.
Floyd schooled JMM who Pac never got a clear win over and got KOd by.
He clearly showed him that he's not on his level, WITH SKILL, NOT WEIGHT for all the complainers. Let me remind you that floyd is a true welter 147lber where these guys come in as middleweights at damn near 165, so the 2lbs wasn't a real disadvantage.
He also schooled Canelo who is a young beast and right after beat the living sh^t out of Angulo who just whipped on Lara.
Floyd came back strong after being hurt by Mosley and gave him a Jedi Master level ass whipping/outclassing.
To hell with saying Shane was off 18 months.
So what, he's a professional boxer and was the champion.
If he was home eating twinkles then that is his fault, if your in that position then your supposed to keep yourself sharp with training and sparring.
Where's the excuse that Floyd was off TWO years?
Well guess what? He kept himself sharp and outclassed JMM with no problem like he was his son.
Yes pac knocked Mosley down but, he couldn't really do anything with a ONE FOOTED Mosley, when shane kept turning him he didn't even know what to do with basic movement and Shane gave no real effort, he never even through a power punch at him.
People need to stop the bias and double standards man and be fair.
I disagree. Losses , when you fight a opponent, and quality of opponent matters.
I disagree with you. Joe Calzaghe has no losses and have won against ATGs like Bhop and Jones but no one sees him as an ATG. Timing is what important here. Floyd fought the best when there are out of their prime or nearly shot. Skill alone is not the quality you need to become an ATG.
Still, I consider him as an ATG, but not greater than Pacquiao.
The way I see it, Pacquiao had more achievements than Mayweather but they will rank Mayweather higher than Pacquiao in ATG rankings because Pac is not American. And thats the sad part for me.:sad2:
People may think I am crazy but I think Cotto needs to be put in the greatest fighter of the era as well. he gave us some very entertaining fights and fought everyone. Who can you say Cotto ducked?
Sure, Cotto is one of the greatest of this era but still he lost to Pacquiao and Mayweather. People will always see Cotto below Pac and May in terms of greatness.
Wow, that video as a long time ago. 41-0, now he still hasn't fought Pac.. Dang, he really see Pac as his kryptonite.
Yet IMDAZED didn't throw Floyd into the bushes, as he said.
You were going to get on Floyd (thrown him in the bushes)?
Floyd fought Mosley too late. Did you get on Floyd for not fighting prime Manny? Sergio Martinez?
Floyd waited until Mosley was inactive for almost 1.5 years and was old. Floyd even admitted that Mosley was getting OLD .....
Even the interviewers here saw the writing on the wall and were calling out Floyd to fight Manny.
at about 4:20 min mark
"Shane Mosley is a lot older so we are going to attack him ...that is our game plan." - Floyd Mayweather
Wow, that video was a long time ago. 41-0, now he still hasn't fought Pac.. Dang, he really see Pac as his kryptonite.