Clottey VS Sugar Shane - who wins?

How dare someone call a 38yr old WW over the hill. Its so obvious hes still prime, right?You guys said a few weeks ago Mayweather would lose to Mosley, but now he's over the hill, too old, etc. Mosley is not in his prime, but he's still a good fighter and he's one of the best WWs in the world. His age, stamina, and everything else was not an issue a few weeks ago because you guys felt Mayweather would never step in the ring with Mosley, but now the same people are making excuses before the fight happens.

Shane wins it easy...no need for explanations.

Shane by close UD.

It's a pick em fight really. Because Clottey is a big strong dude with pretty decent handspeed, I can see him going into that defensive shell while Shane punches, and coming back with some fast and strong combinations on the flat footed Mosley. Still, Shane can punch, and his handspeed will definitely help him land on Clottey's dome. He could hurt Clottey and KO him, or simply outwork him in the later rounds since Clottey's punch output seems to fade. It's a toss up, but I lean toward a 7-5 decision for Clottey.

Mosley by clear decision. He has every tool he needs to beat Clottey.His stamian is better,his footwork is better,his speed is beter,his power,his inside game,etc. Only thing Clottey has over him is a better jab which woulddn't count much once he starts to fade and keep a low workrate. I agree with this. Plus Clottey can't really counterpunch well

Mosley with Naazim in his corner got in the bag, clottey took those breaks against Cotto, Mosley would almost surely win with Naazim. without him.. not so sure..

that too, my friend. but sometimes you can't "wait" for the opening, you gotta "create" it. True that,true that. That's why he ain't or will never be a great fighter. But he is very good.

I thought Berto would beat Mosley for the reasons already stated, but I think Mosley pulls off a close decision in another war. i had berto beating shane too. shane beats clottey tho.

I thought Berto would beat Mosley for the reasons already stated, but I think Mosley pulls off a close decision in another war.

Well he was still pressuiring him till the end.He just didn't let his hands go. He is the type of guy who waits for the perfect opening.Too passive. that too, my friend. but sometimes you can't "wait" for the opening, you gotta "create" it.

agreed. i thought he beat cotto by a point.....but like you said, he faded late, and cotto fought like he wanted it more. i know ppl say the fact that it was in MSG played a part, and probably so, but i think cotto would've gotten the nod no matter where the fight was held. for some reason, ppl just pay more attention to the guy that "looks" like he's having the bigger impact. i think had clottey stepped on the pedal, at any time during those last few rounds, the fight could've been over. but cotto won't just give up, and by not fighting with the same "sense of urgency," clottey let him off the hook. that's what i mean, by that "extra push" comment. clottey doesn't have that SENSE OF URGENCY the greats tap into when they need a lift. Well he was still pressuiring him till the end.He just didn't let his hands go. He is the type of guy who waits for the perfect opening.Too passive.

I think he has the skills but he always was a hard luck guy. He hurt his hand with Margarito and I thought he beat Cotto. It's not that he didn't push for the win but he always fades late and doesn't throw enough punches. agreed. i thought he beat cotto by a point.....but like you said, he faded late, and cotto fought like he wanted it more. i know ppl say the fact that it was in MSG played a part, and probably so, but i think cotto would've gotten the nod no matter where the fight was held. for some reason, ppl just pay more attention to the guy that "looks" like he's having the bigger impact. i think had clottey stepped on the pedal, at any time during those last few rounds, the fight could've been over. but cotto won't just give up, and by not fighting with the same "sense of urgency," clottey let him off the hook. that's what i mean, by that "extra push" comment. clottey doesn't have that SENSE OF URGENCY the greats tap into when they need a lift.

You are calling him over the hill because he is about to fight Mayweather, not because you actually believe it. mosley is past his best bro. hell his best was at 135, or atleast the first DLH fight which is nearly 10 years ago. saying hes past his best doesnt mean hes not still a great fighter or even one of the best today, which he is. over the hill isnt the same thing as washed up which is think u believe he meant. to answer the thread, mosley beats clottey clearly. shane is a couple of levels above clottey. theres a big diffrence between a good fighter and a great fighter.

heart, to me anyways, is more than just lasting. it's fighting for a win. the best fighters don't just wanna be able to say they went the distance, they want to win. haven't seen that from clottey. he's got the skills. he was beating margarito early, he was beating cotto early. he just ain't have what it took to finish. clottey will always be another "good" fighter, with potential, but never able to get over that hump. :nonono: I think he has the skills but he always was a hard luck guy. He hurt his hand with Margarito and I thought he beat Cotto. It's not that he didn't push for the win but he always fades late and doesn't throw enough punches.

He has the heart. He doesn't have the rest. heart, to me anyways, is more than just lasting. it's fighting for a win. the best fighters don't just wanna be able to say they went the distance, they want to win. haven't seen that from clottey. he's got the skills. he was beating margarito early, he was beating cotto early. he just ain't have what it took to finish. clottey will always be another "good" fighter, with potential, but never able to get over that hump. :nonono:

I don't know about that. What I do know, is he doesn't have THE SKILL. That's Duckquiao's favorite opponent... a skill-less one. nah....he's definitely got the skill. he just ain't got that extra "push" to pull out a close fight..... that little bit extra is what you need in close fights, or when you're hurt, to dig down and do whatever to win the fight..... clottey's a tough summummabitch, so he can "last" in fights, but to pull out a tough fight? don't think so. :nonono:

agree with this.... clottey can't beat top fighters, period. he doesn't have the heart. He has the heart. He doesn't have the rest.

Mosley by clear decision. He has every tool he needs to beat Clottey.His stamian is better,his footwork is better,his speed is beter,his power,his inside game,etc. Only thing Clottey has over him is a better jab which woulddn't count much once he starts to fade and keep a low workrate. agree with this.... clottey can't beat top fighters, period. he doesn't have the heart.

Mosley vs Clottey I'm already considered over the hill... I say Go Mosley... Sweet as sugar... Clottey might win a few rounds, but would be way outworked. We saw it in the Cotto fight, he doesn't take that extra step the elite fighters take. Mayweather, would still beat both though.

The #1 WW and #3 p4p is over the hill. :pat: How dare someone call a 38yr old WW over the hill. Its so obvious hes still prime, right?