you will never know because he's not been tested by his own standard(floyd standard) lol. what if he uses it to his whole body?
Yeah cuz Pac backed out goofball...Floyd was having the same test done
good post, something different than reading allways nuthugger posts :D
You know Ted... WE Germans call it str8 down the line *looooooooooooooooool*
Yeah, sometimes I get caught up too and tend to treat every Pacquiao fan the same (because of some serious nutthugging on these forums) but there are also some who are reasonable and you can have an good conversation with about facts and the sport of boxing itself
You seem to be a reasonable guy...
Yeah, but it was by his own admission... he was never tested positive another proof of why the testing system sucks a$$ if you will.
The truth is it even can backfire on Floyd. I know nobody thinks it's possible but we once had a great trainer in germany (soccer) and he was accused by someone else (a manager of another team) that he took cocaine. He said no, he never did that and agreed to a hair test to prove that he is innocent... his hair was so decisive that it was clear he has taken cocaine... of course it would be pretty foolish to want a test that proves you are on something but things can happen... as this should show you...
Hey, that's what I said... I have no problem with Pacquiao not taking the test... he ain't has to... it was a demand from Floyd and ok... the fight is off but then don't tell me May ducked Pacquiao... Pacquiao ain't signed the contract either or? If Pacquiao would have agreed to, which he doesn't have to, we would have a fight... that's all I'm saying.
I never said that Pacquiao ducked Mosley... I in general don't like to use the word ducking, coward, pussy, chicken or whatever... it's not my way... if I use it it is usually only because a guy came up with wrong facts... I turn it around and use the same words as him.
I'm not the most ppl... I don't think he has ever ducked him and to tell you the truth... the fight now is bigger then ever... so it was smart business I might add... in 99 the fight wouldn't have been that big... even in 2006 the fight wouldn't have been big... Mosley is coming from a career win... let's face it since 2003, after beating DLH he did shit... he beat an over the hill Vargas, he beat Collazo (ok), he lost to Cotto and beat an amateur in Mayorga and didn't even look good doing so... Margarito was his first win against a prime and considered good fighter in 5 years... the fight never was bigger... perfect timing if you ask me
good post, something different than reading allways nuthugger posts :D
He was the one who was proven to have taken illegal stuffs....not allegations, but proven. Mosley, in the light of the events now....would love to prove again that he is clean.
Pacquiao has nothing to prove because of someone's allegations with no proof while having questionable background.
Pacquiao, just like Mayweather is just a boxer and cannot enforce any policies on anyone. But both can agree to a contract to fight or decline. The name of the game is "catch me while on top" is what the ego of both fighters are trying to "enforce"...
If anything, Pacquiao isn't the right person to "accuse" of anyone ducking...he has methodically met anyone in his way from the bottom and 7 weight divisions heavier. Mosley being "ducked" by Pacquiao is just another blatant accusation if anything.
Timing is the issue here. That can be said most specially with Mayweather "ducking" Mosley forever and now has to fight him in the eyes of the people.
You seem to be a reasonable guy...
Yeah, but it was by his own admission... he was never tested positive another proof of why the testing system sucks a$$ if you will.
The truth is it even can backfire on Floyd. I know nobody thinks it's possible but we once had a great trainer in germany (soccer) and he was accused by someone else (a manager of another team) that he took cocaine. He said no, he never did that and agreed to a hair test to prove that he is innocent... his hair was so decisive that it was clear he has taken cocaine... of course it would be pretty foolish to want a test that proves you are on something but things can happen... as this should show you...
Hey, that's what I said... I have no problem with Pacquiao not taking the test... he ain't has to... it was a demand from Floyd and ok... the fight is off but then don't tell me May ducked Pacquiao... Pacquiao ain't signed the contract either or? If Pacquiao would have agreed to, which he doesn't have to, we would have a fight... that's all I'm saying.
I never said that Pacquiao ducked Mosley... I in general don't like to use the word ducking, coward, pussy, chicken or whatever... it's not my way... if I use it it is usually only because a guy came up with wrong facts... I turn it around and use the same words as him.
I'm not the most ppl... I don't think he has ever ducked him and to tell you the truth... the fight now is bigger then ever... so it was smart business I might add... in 99 the fight wouldn't have been that big... even in 2006 the fight wouldn't have been big... Mosley is coming from a career win... let's face it since 2003, after beating DLH he did shit... he beat an over the hill Vargas, he beat Collazo (ok), he lost to Cotto and beat an amateur in Mayorga and didn't even look good doing so... Margarito was his first win against a prime and considered good fighter in 5 years... the fight never was bigger... perfect timing if you ask me
How can I ever forget that disappointed look in his face (Mosley's) when they're about to announce the winner of the Dela Hoya vs Mosley rematch? He knew he lost the fight. Stupid judges didn't even decide a draw. Mosley was the most surprised dude when the winner was finally announced. I could still hear the booing to this day. And to think that he (Mosley) beg for the fight at a time when he was a nobody. What a joke.
mosley ain't elite. floyd taxes that ass easily......
i got ALL my points on this one....let's see which one of you shit talkers actually step up :nonono:Many elite fighters are deterred by ordinary fighters...such as Buster Douglas whipping Mike Tyson. And so even if your assessment that Mosley isn't an "elite" fighter as purely an inaccurate statement, I don't see this as a cakewalk for Mayweather.
Mayweather as a master of defense is obvious but anything can happen...
Thanks to Pac, Floyd is forced to fight an elite Welterweight
Mosley is not an elite. Not to my standard. I don't even care who Floyd fights at this point. Believe me this guy's mind is set on retirement. It's ridiculous to assume that he will now fight the elites he once ducked. Who are we kidding? PB doesn't give a rat's ass what fans think.
He should have taken Pac on March 13 and dealt with his fears. Then retire win or lose.
What are you talking about man you keep making yourself look dumber and dumber with each comment. Pac is not the Commissioner he's the one who ran from the tests and said no not NSAC. If it was a problem NSAC would have said there can't be any requests for testing besides ours in negotiations. Please tell me you are not serious and only joking, trying to give us some laughs.
lol. floyd was the one requesting to nsac for the test to do his own standard of test. think about it, whose the one that making himself above the commissioner?
mosley ain't elite. floyd taxes that ass easily......
i got ALL my points on this one....let's see which one of you shit talkers actually step up :nonono:
Why has Mosley something to prove? He could say no and fight Pacquiao down the stretch? Pacquiao wasn't forced either and backed out because of testing?
Who says that Mayweather is? Everybody knows (outside of the commisions) that the tests that they make a shit... everybody who has something to do with doping would hope for such rules... blood only gets tested because of HIV, Hepatitis etc. who are you kidding... boxing is the most demanding sport in the world and you believe nobody is cheating. The guys who get caught ain't get caught because of the tests but because they are too stupid to cycle it out dude... do you think it is better that track athletes etc. get tested stricter then boxers who do harm to each other. You are right about May... he should have gone to the comission and demanded it but they would said NO... after he made it public now the comissions start to think about it... usually you would believe that a guy like Pacquiao who stands on high moral grounds would come up with a campaign to clear the sport... it's sad that Mayweather is the one who is pushing for it.
Mayweather never ducked him... Mosley until beating Margarito ain't never had the right to face Mayweather more then anybody else... Mosley had the fight on the table in 2006 (I can post the article where Schaefer tells you that dude, but he walked out of it) so please don't arrange the truth to your liking... Mayweather got called out by Mosley after the Marquez fight and not even one year later he has it... Mayweather called him out back in 99 and had 10 years to wait... so you do the match of who is ducking who?
I don't care much for Mayweather-Clottey... if it happens ok... I just want to see him fight Pacquiao... Pacquiao has a great resume but until he beats Floyd I will never accept that he is better then Floyd... and I like Pacquiao too... his legacy put him over Floyd if you will BUT that doesn't change the fact that in the ring he has no chance against Floyd... that is a fight that I want to see even more bad then Floyd-Mosley... because Pac has some skill... I want to see how much skills he has
He was the one who was proven to have taken illegal stuffs....not allegations, but proven. Mosley, in the light of the events now....would love to prove again that he is clean.
Pacquiao has nothing to prove because of someone's allegations with no proof while having questionable background.
Pacquiao, just like Mayweather is just a boxer and cannot enforce any policies on anyone. But both can agree to a contract to fight or decline. The name of the game is "catch me while on top" is what the ego of both fighters are trying to "enforce"...
If anything, Pacquiao isn't the right person to "accuse" of anyone ducking...he has methodically met anyone in his way from the bottom and 7 weight divisions heavier. Mosley being "ducked" by Pacquiao is just another blatant accusation if anything.
Timing is the issue here. That can be said most specially with Mayweather "ducking" Mosley forever and now has to fight him in the eyes of the people.
The only reason why Mosley is taking the test is that he has something to prove and it is now laid out in the open.
If the NSAC endorses blood testing, Pacquiao would surely oblige and obey. The very reason why Pacquiao didn't go according to Mayweather's whims and demands are just that. Mayweather is not the "commission"...
But back to Mosley, he is backed to his corner and HAVE TO TAKE IT. Mayweather on the other hand, is forced to fight him now after ducking him.
I would hope that they would actually fight. Then the winner of this fight would hopefully fight the winner of the Pacquiao/Clottey fight.
Why has Mosley something to prove? He could say no and fight Pacquiao down the stretch? Pacquiao wasn't forced either and backed out because of testing?
Who says that Mayweather is? Everybody knows (outside of the commisions) that the tests that they make a shit... everybody who has something to do with doping would hope for such rules... blood only gets tested because of HIV, Hepatitis etc. who are you kidding... boxing is the most demanding sport in the world and you believe nobody is cheating. The guys who get caught ain't get caught because of the tests but because they are too stupid to cycle it out dude... do you think it is better that track athletes etc. get tested stricter then boxers who do harm to each other. You are right about May... he should have gone to the comission and demanded it but they would said NO... after he made it public now the comissions start to think about it... usually you would believe that a guy like Pacquiao who stands on high moral grounds would come up with a campaign to clear the sport... it's sad that Mayweather is the one who is pushing for it.
Mayweather never ducked him... Mosley until beating Margarito ain't never had the right to face Mayweather more then anybody else... Mosley had the fight on the table in 2006 (I can post the article where Schaefer tells you that dude, but he walked out of it) so please don't arrange the truth to your liking... Mayweather got called out by Mosley after the Marquez fight and not even one year later he has it... Mayweather called him out back in 99 and had 10 years to wait... so you do the match of who is ducking who?
I don't care much for Mayweather-Clottey... if it happens ok... I just want to see him fight Pacquiao... Pacquiao has a great resume but until he beats Floyd I will never accept that he is better then Floyd... and I like Pacquiao too... his legacy put him over Floyd if you will BUT that doesn't change the fact that in the ring he has no chance against Floyd... that is a fight that I want to see even more bad then Floyd-Mosley... because Pac has some skill... I want to see how much skills he has
What are you talking about man you keep making yourself look dumber and dumber with each comment. Pac is not the Commissioner he's the one who ran from the tests and said no not NSAC. If it was a problem NSAC would have said there can't be any requests for testing besides ours in negotiations. Please tell me you are not serious and only joking, trying to give us some laughs.
Floyd is not the "commission."
Nevada State Athletic Commission knows better than Mayweather about PEDs.
Team Mayweather havent convinced NSAC to do random blood testing.
Floyd Mayweather is "scared to death" to Pacquiao.:bottle: