When it comes down to it, Pacquiao agreed to the EXTRA testing Floyd requested

if it was a formula it goes like this NSAC = compulsory Floyd's camp = Xdemand Pacman's camp = Ydemand != Not equal to == is equal to Scenario 1: Xdemand == drug test but Xdemand != NSAC then Ydemand has option to say Yes or No. Ydemand picked option Yes from Xdemand but with a corresponding Ydemand so Xdemand too has the option to say Yes or No. This will go on forever since NSAC will be the deciding factor which will only allow option Yes since it is compulsory. Scenario 2: If and only if NSAC == Xdemand then Ydemand option is only Yes. But as what happened Xdemand != NSAC so Scenario 1 happened. It goes interesting when this formula was applied to Schaeffer during Mosley fight they also turned down testing outside NSAC and they're applying this formula to pacman in which to some extent pacman agreed. Do you all understand now?

That the boxing community has been up in arms about steroids for years. Two writers don't make up the boxing community, nor does it equate to "many". But you want someone to pull up the rest for you, right? Whatever.

What claims? You made a THREAD saying why wasn't anyone saying this before. Then asked for proof. You got it. Now two isn't enough? Sure. That the boxing community has been up in arms about steroids for years. Second, the "standard testing not being good enough" has been touted by many. Over years. Two writers don't make up the boxing community, nor does it equate to "many".

and you cant say he is clean either you havent tested him yourself. he refused random blood test within 24 days of the fight so thats a reason to accuse him without proof that is. I'm fine with the results of the NSAC and the other commissions as they've caught boxers over the last 10 years. If your reason is because he refused a test that isn't the standard, then you'll surely agree that every other fighter who hasn't done the blood testing is guilty as well. I don't see many, if any at all voluntarily doing the testing that was asked for. But just curious, other than the refusal to bow down to Floyd, what other reasons gave you suspicion that he was on PEDs?

You're the one making the claims, so you prove it. What claims? You made a THREAD saying why wasn't anyone saying this before. Then asked for proof. You got it. Now two isn't enough? Sure.

You asked and I provided. In fact, I gave double what you asked for. But I can't be bothered to do your research for you. If two isn't enough, google the rest - and there are much more. Have fun. You're the one making the claims, so you prove it.

and I asked if anyone had written about it before, I don't recall saying nobody did. But yea, two writers don't make up the boxing community. You asked and I provided. In fact, I gave double what you asked for. But I can't be bothered to do your research for you. If two isn't enough, google the rest - and there are much more. Have fun.

How is he a flomo when he is blaming Pac? :rofl: WTF I just like messing with 2501 on the balls...

It warms my heart that I still make your pussy wet. Good to know Flomo!!!

and theres no reason to suspect him of using, unless of course, you're a Mayweather or Mayweather fan, or a fan of a fighter he beat. I mean, its not as if guys like Hearns and Duran stopped knocking guys out once they reached a certain weight in their careers. and you cant say he is clean either you havent tested him yourself. he refused random blood test within 24 days of the fight so thats a reason to accuse him without proof that is.

you said he never tested for ped's, thats why i responded to your post. and the blood your talking about was for a routine physical, not for ped's. and if he has then why not now for the biggest fight in his life? and for 40 million dollars? Why did Floyd turn down 40 mil for the biggest fight of his life? "easy fight, easy work, probably easier than the Marquez fight". So, again, why turn down an easy 40 mil, against an easy opponent in an easy fight? Because Manny didn't want to submit to Floyds demands? Doesn't sound like it would have been so easy to me.

I'm done with you dude. You said no one had written about it before this mess - I provided two articles mentioning it (BTW, there are many more if you would google YOURSELF). Then you accused me of being a Floyd fan and ran off. Go sell your BS elsewhere. You have no interest in a healthy debate, just bashing Floyd. That's fine - I'm all for it. Just not on this topic. I thought you were done with me before? and I asked if anyone had written about it before, I don't recall saying nobody did. Btw, I could have sworn I seen you say you were a fan of Floyd, however, if I'm wrong, I can admit it. No biggie in admitting ones faults, nobody is perfect. But yea, two writers don't make up the boxing community.

never been tested? he's given blood AND given urine tests. what are you typing about? you said he never tested for ped's, thats why i responded to your post. and the blood your talking about was for a routine physical, not for ped's. and if he has then why not now for the biggest fight in his life? and for 40 million dollars?

-pac has never tested for ped's so we dont know if he used them since he hasnt tested for them. - there's no actual evidence he used ped's cuz he never tested for them. but wether or not he used, he don't know himself since he doesn't know what ariza is giving him. at the end of the day, there's no real proof he has or hasnt used ped's. and theres no reason to suspect him of using, unless of course, you're a Mayweather or Mayweather fan, or a fan of a fighter he beat. I mean, its not as if guys like Hearns and Duran stopped knocking guys out once they reached a certain weight in their careers.

What were the blood tests for? Ask Erik Morales.

never been tested? he's given blood AND given urine tests. what are you typing about? What were the blood tests for?

-pac has never tested for ped's so we dont know if he used them since he hasnt tested for them. - there's no actual evidence he used ped's cuz he never tested for them. but wether or not he used, he don't know himself since he doesn't know what ariza is giving him. at the end of the day, there's no real proof he has or hasnt used ped's. never been tested? he's given blood AND given urine tests. what are you typing about?

-pac has never tested for ped's so we dont know if he used them since he hasnt tested for them. - there's no actual evidence he used ped's cuz he never tested for them. but wether or not he used, he don't know himself since he doesn't know what ariza is giving him. at the end of the day, there's no real proof he has or hasnt used ped's. Pac has taken Urine and Blood tests... Just not randomly. But he HAS been tested.

STFU with this BS! U still yapping about it and u r as wrong as an eskimo in the valley. Its old news and ur on the opposite side of common logic and public opinion. pbf will never make u happy, we get it! Now move on. exclamation points!! yaaaay!! more explamation paints!! yaay!!

-Pacquiao has NEVER tested for PEDS -There has NEVER been any actual evidence that Pacquiao has used PEDS. -pac has never tested for ped's so we dont know if he used them since he hasnt tested for them. - there's no actual evidence he used ped's cuz he never tested for them. but wether or not he used, he don't know himself since he doesn't know what ariza is giving him. at the end of the day, there's no real proof he has or hasnt used ped's.