WBO: No Blood Test for Pacquiao-Clottey Fight

good ole pacman...........he can get high as he wants now.

blood is primarily to see activity urine is to test for presence ... it is specific a blood test will not find weed or cocaine in your system its fkkin overrated...Conte thinks he might know of one drug or PED that can be found in blood.... he has yet to prove that to the world ... therefore the world uses piss test primarily especially America This is true, blood test will only show you abnormal activities in the level of different particles that consists in a single blood cell. But it's like the prints of your hands, no two man has the exact same level of particles in their blood, that is why there is a new proposition in going about this random blood test and that is to do this in an 8year span, random blood testing one particular athlete in that 8year span to monitor any changes in each particle, may it be while the athlete is in training or just vacationing in fiji. This is the whole arguement of team pac, it is basically a useless effort, for them to find anything irregular in manny's blood they should have started random testing him 3 or 4 years ago. Random blood testing him every 3 months of his life, not 7-8 times within the 8 weeks training camp of manny as was the original proposal of team floyd, that will just hinder manny's training. And now manny's camp is even willing to give urine test everyday, 24/7 for the entire training period just to show that he is not taking anything illegal. This is not normal procedure, boxers before are not required to submit urine test this often!!! But manny is willing to give in and do urine test everyday or every minute if possible, NOW IF YOU ARE DOING DRUGS, EVEN IF YOU ARE USING MASKING AGENTS TO HIDE THEM, DON'T YOU THINK A URINE SAMPLE EVERY TIME HE PISSES ARE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO CATCH HIM?!!!

Manny should submit to ost for his fight with Clottey just to squash the numerous rumours. Yea, like that's going to happen :haha:.

hey it works for the military it works for government jobs it works for the NFL it works for the NBA it works for corporate America... Only Mayweather camp doesn't like piss...they want blood The military can order random blood testing anytime they want for a plethora of reasons, and there are lots of government jobs that require blood and even sometimes hair testing. The NFL and the NBA use outside organizations that test urine, but the idea of blood testing has been widely debated for a long time and it's long overdue. Plain and simple, the leagues keep the testing to a minimum so that they don't end up exposing large amounts of their players like what happened to baseball. "Corporate America" is a pretty vague term and has nothing to do with a sport where your opponent is punching you in the face. Besides, just like all the fanboys on here who keep saying "you can't prove that Manny is taking steroids", I will come right out and say that you cannot prove that all of "Corporate America" is only using urine testing. The only reason people are grasping at straws to make excuses over this is because it is Floyd Mayweather who brought it up and because they feel like Manny Pacquiao has been "dishonored". I have always liked both guys, I think they are both entertaining in their own unique ways, but I cannot understand Manny's thinking on this one. If Manny and Arum feel like it's a bluff because Mayweather don't want the fight, why not call his bluff? If Manny is upset because he feels insulted, wouldn't the best way to get back at Floyd be by taking the tests and then beating his ass in the ring? I can understand not wanting to give in to your rival, but by walking away from all that money and filing lawsuits, that really makes people scratch their heads.

hehe if you are following the threads and read articles weeks and weeks ago you should know that. By the way, we are just going around the circle :D I do know that. Which is why I'm wondering why you are bringing it up?

Yeah - what did they test for? hehe if you are following the threads and read articles weeks and weeks ago you should know that. By the way, we are just going around the circle :D

PS: IMDAZED sonned everybody in this thread. Thanks for the laughs, Dazed.

it was never a standard thing to make fights happen, so i'm not surprised. its only when floyd made it an issue that its being discussed. that guy should go to jail for irresponsibly staining a reputation that took a lifetime to build for his own selfish ego. While I agree that it was unnecesary for Floyd to request NSAC testing, I don't think it was him who messed up Manny's rep. It took a lifetime to build, an MANNY STAINED IT JUST AS MUCH by not submitting to the tests. Remember: It wasn't Mayweather's request that caused the controversy. It was Pacquiao's refusal. The testing had been established for a while before Team Pac caused all the problems. So where were the outcries when it seemed like the testing wouldn't be a problem? I love the double standards there... Bottom line: Manny Pacquiao created more talk about the PED controversy than ANYBODY who accused him, simply by not agreeing to take more stringent testing. Whether or not it was good or not for Floyd to request that testing is another issue.

http://www.malaya.com.ph/01142010/sports5.html As expected. I want to see him fighting a big name now.

his is pointless dude... Manny will never test positive for any tests... so why dont you just learn to enjoy it the ass whoopins Backtracking now, are we? Get lost.

We know the urine test is capable of finding EPO. That's about ALL it can do with regards to blood doping. What are you talking about? his is pointless dude... Manny will never test positive for any tests... so why dont you just learn to enjoy it the ass whoopins

Maybe but I maintain you need a year long testing period for blood mapping to be effective, a 1 fight deal is not going to give sufficient data to make any analysis effective. The key word in your sentence is maybe. Nevertheless, I agree - which is why it should be standard. Regardless, you'd have to be a serious juicer to take that risk with those two tests combined.

Testing begins from the first presser going. It's a stretch to believe they couldn't figure that out if they were testing leading up to the bout. Couple that with the urine testing and I doubt any fighter would risk it.Maybe but I maintain you need a year long testing period for blood mapping to be effective, a 1 fight deal is not going to give sufficient data to make any analysis effective.

pacman tested NEGATIVE on a surprised blood testing on marquez fight (its not a urine test but a BLOOD TEST). Anything else to prove? Yeah - what did they test for?

Simply: if manny normal BCC level is X and his EPO level is X+20%. during the period that he would be blood tested (i.e the training camp) he will will be at X+20% since he would be using. how could you know what his normal level is if you have no X sample taken to compair against? Testing begins from the first presser going. It's a stretch to believe they couldn't figure that out if they were testing leading up to the bout. Couple that with the urine testing and I doubt any fighter would risk it.

pacman tested NEGATIVE on a surprised blood testing on marquez fight (its not a urine test but a BLOOD TEST). Anything else to prove?

Floyd's a genius...now everyone's doing research on doping lol!

I knew it. Clottey is a dumbass.

Apologies, hammer - your first paragraph is confusing me a bit. Please explain. Then remember that Mayweather requested for blood and urine testing simultaneously.Simply: if manny normal BCC level is X and his EPO level is X+20%. during the period that he would be blood tested (i.e the training camp) he will will be at X+20% since he would be using. how could you know what his normal level is if you have no X sample taken to compair against?

There shouldn't be a blood test. I think Manny refused a blood test for PBF strictly on principle. If Manny really wanted to fight Mayweather he should have just done it. He should have done whatever Mayweather asked so that there was no way Mayweather could get out of the fight, and to silence the steroid accusation. Manny put himself in a position where many boxing fans are speculating he's a roider, and many everyday people who catch a glimpse of the news think he's a roider. People aren't really talking about what a great fighter he is, they're talking about his link to steroids (whether there is one or not). Manny put himself in this position, not Floyd. If I were Manny, and I weren't on any drugs, I would submit to the testing. Hell, if I were Manny, I'd fight Mayweather for free if it were the only way to make the fight happen. I do believe Floyd is using this as a cop out. He has a bad reputation for ducking good fighters. If Floyd believed he could beat Manny, this fight would be happening. The fact that he called for unheard of requirements tells me he's scared. He has never impressed me in any fight. He's not an exciting champion; he doesn't destroy people in spectacular fashion like Pacquiao does. The only great fighter he ever took on was an old Oscar (an Oscar that Pacquiao annihilated)- and he ran the entire time and got a decision that he shouldn't have. I wanted my money back. He likes to bring up how Manny has lost and that means that Manny can be easily beat, and how his perfect record means that nobody has figured out how to beat him. Well lets look at the people Manny's fought - guys like Barrera, Morales, Marquez. Now look at Floyds fights and tell me who, other than De La Hoya and Marquez, is a great fighter, that he beat. Floyd cares more about his record than being a real champion.