Because, i mean, come on!
Answer me this, how does Manny win?
If Manny was landing shots on Floyd, PBF is fast enough to come forward and tie him up, and Pac would be like a turtle on its back if effective clinches come into the fight.
If Manny tries to come inside and fight Floyd there, he will quickly find himself getting tied up and smothered, MANNY DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO CLINCH. so Floyd would destroy him if he uses these tactics.
So Mannys only way to win is to box on the outside and use speed tactics.
Well that wont work, Floyd is bigger and stronger, and just as fast.
As manny tries to leap in and fire off his shots, he is going to be getting hammered by the counter right hand off mayweather.
The same counter right that made Pac shit his pants against Marquez i might add.
See the worst thing Pac did was pissing floyd off. What he should of done when Floyd asked for a fight is adressed Mayweather like this "Yes Mr Mayweather, sir, it will be an honour to fight you" See had Pac been nice, then Floyd may have spared Pac's wretched hide, and carried him the full 12.
But, alas Pac was rude, and will pay the price. Here is how the fight will pan out.
First 2 rounds, Pac flies at floyd, who ties him up and pressures him into the ropes, "no dice" whispers floyd into Pacs ears.
Next 9 rounds, Pac tries to box floyd, and eats straight right for 9 rounds, getting dropped and bloodied up good.
Last round, Floyd stops playing and ko's Pac, and his career.
He already ducked Guzman and Raheem at the lower weights so you need to check your facts, and when Mosley said he'd even go down to 140 to fight him Manny chose to fight Cotto instead, i know it's hard for you to accept but those are the facts right there.
wow
it really lives up your name, silky flow-mo
Yeah, he's still deciding which one on his hit list he's gonna cross off next: real tough guys like Paulie, Matthew Hatton, Saul Alvarez, and Nate Campbell. Calderon better run, coz he next
Yeah because you're obviously from the Mayweather camp aren't you?!! :rolleyes: until a contract is signed all you are doing is SPECULATING, and when you are proved wrong your gonna look like an mug again.
Still don't make sense why it would make for him to avoid a specific race. Skin or race or culture has nothing to do with boxing, And when did Manny ever duck?. Cotto-Floyd 140? c'mon that's all in favor for Floyd.
It all says the same why Floyd is avoiding people his own weight, And made JMM go up weight for him. A bloated slowed Marquez was fighting that night.
I never questioned Floyd's skills. But I always questioned his heart to fight,
Say sh*t about Pac all you want but you can never his heart to fight.
And that's why he wanted to fight Mayweather in the first place. Because he proved he can beat solid straight up fighters. It's time for him to face his biggest challenge, Mayweather.
and again. People let's just stop arguing about the fighters. And love the fact that the biggest fight of our generation will happen eventually :boxing:
He already ducked Guzman and Raheem at the lower weights so you need to check your facts, and when Mosley said he'd even go down to 140 to fight him Manny chose to fight Cotto instead, i know it's hard for you to accept but those are the facts right there.
55/45 in favor of Fraud winning. Neither guy has seen anyone like the other, and anything can happen in the ring when the top two guys get it on. Pac definitely has a puncher's chance. But Fraud has too many advantages not to be favored.
But these guys were also favored:
New England Patriots in 2008
Lakers in 2004
Yankees in 2001
Mavericks in 2007 (vs Golden State)
etc
etc
Anything can happen when the competition is tip top.
I remember Floyd saying he wanted to fight Mosley, but I don't know what happened, Mosley called him out and straight out wanted to fight him, and instead of saying okay I'll fight you. He says don't disrespect me..bla bla bla.
And when asked about Cotto I think he said because Cotto lived in puerto rico or something?.
bottomline is. It don't matter what style your fighting, as long as it's exciting it's a great match up and it makes fans happy and the match up is FAIR.
and what about Ledwaba?. And I don't really get how skin color is a factor in fights.
so fighting aggressive fighters is more embarrasing than not fighting top boxer's in his own weight class?.
do your homework buddy...
Cotto sat front row at the Mayweather/Gatti fight..Cotto was supposed to fight the winner of that bout..after Cotto witnessed that 1-2 destruction via Floyd..he opted out..and said he wasnt ready(which I respect his honesty)..
Don't forget Whitaker versus ODLH. Delahoya was aggresive and busy enough, even if he missed Sweet Pea the whole night, that the judges gave him the nod. This is a very real possibility if PBF and Pac fight.
Pacquiao is just a workhorse and doesn't get frustrated or gives up plus he has the power to hurt Mayweather at anytime.
Mayweather's defense will be superb and I don't think you can hit him flush but I think Paquiao's high workrate, aggressiveness and non-stop offense will either overwhelm Floyd or impress the judges enough to give him a decision over PBF.
De la hoya never "almost beat pbf"
Floyd took Oscar apart, WHILE STANDING RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM
Floyd never even used his legs, he neutralised Oscars left hand, WITHOUT MOVING
Real boxing fans would appreciate the skill in that, sure he could of danced around and played pitty pat, but he was right in front of oscar and deconstructed him from that position.
that is truly impressive.
some of you guys need to look a bit further than boxrec, and the fact that one guy scored a tko is not always more impressive than undressing an elite fighter, in his own weight class, while using only 50% of your abilities.
If only I could figure out how to Green K..hell, if only I cared about that Green/Red K thingy..
Id give you a "green"..cause this right here is a A+ Post
Yup winnng by one round is a complete destruction who would of knew.
Come on man do you really think Floyd won that fight by only one round? That fight went just like the Judah fight 3/4ths of the fight was a completely one sided fight... If you truly believe that man you should just stop watching boxing all together
I think anyone one with a good understanding of the sport of boxing knows that Floyds style is a absolute nightmare for Manny Pacquiao... I think Pacquiao has a good chance though I think the best prediction for this fight I heard was, "Manny has four rounds to knock Floyd out... If he doesnt do that or let's Floyd win atleast two of those four rounds then Manny is in for the schooling of his life"
Did you read Nate Campbell's Statement or are you just blind and dumb? :rolleyes:
FLOYD HASN'T SIGNED A CONTRACT TO FIGHT ANYONE YET!!!.
Yeah, he's still deciding which one on his hit list he's gonna cross off next: real tough guys like Paulie, Matthew Hatton, Saul Alvarez, and Nate Campbell. Calderon better run, coz he next
De la hoya never "almost beat pbf"
Floyd took Oscar apart, WHILE STANDING RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM
Floyd never even used his legs, he neutralised Oscars left hand, WITHOUT MOVING
Real boxing fans would appreciate the skill in that, sure he could of danced around and played pitty pat, but he was right in front of oscar and deconstructed him from that position.
that is truly impressive.
some of you guys need to look a bit further than boxrec, and the fact that one guy scored a tko is not always more impressive than undressing an elite fighter, in his own weight class, while using only 50% of your abilities.
You called it right, Earl. Floyd stood in the pocket with him and invited him to trade. Oscar even had the advantage of learning a few things from Floyd Sr. when Sr. was in his camp.
De la hoya never "almost beat pbf"
Floyd took Oscar apart, WHILE STANDING RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM
Floyd never even used his legs, he neutralised Oscars left hand, WITHOUT MOVING
Real boxing fans would appreciate the skill in that, sure he could of danced around and played pitty pat, but he was right in front of oscar and deconstructed him from that position.
that is truly impressive.
some of you guys need to look a bit further than boxrec, and the fact that one guy scored a tko is not always more impressive than undressing an elite fighter, in his own weight class, while using only 50% of your abilities.
Yup winnng by one round is a complete destruction who would of knew.
Zab did hurt Floyd once..
Castillo gave him a tough night..
Dela Hoya almost beat him..
I can NOT see Floyd winning this fight..
IF ever it will happen.
Nope, Castillo BEAT him in their first fight.
Lets end this thread right here.
Arum, Roach, Team Pacquiao AND Manny himself know they can't beat Floyd.
They can talk all they want about him being a runner and a boring fighter, but
that's all they can say.
Case in point: Freddie Roach claims Floyd would be easier to beat than Cotto and Shane.
Next few weeks, Freddie claims Floyd is a different type of fighter, and they need more time to prepare Manny for him.
FACT: There are no sparring partners that can match Floyd's style and ring IQ.
FACT: Freddie tried to prepare an healthy and fit Oscar against Floyd AND
they had Shane Mosley help out in sparring.
FACT: Oscar asked for and got all the advantages he thought he needed to beat Floyd at 154lbs.
RESULT: Oscar loses his 154lb WBC Jr Middle Weight title in the highest grossing fight in the history of the sport.
If a man ducks a whole style that means he may have a weakness in his arsenal that's yet to be exposed, i mean what other reason would there be for Manny to duck slick boxers? as for Cotto Floyd wanted to fight him at 140 and Arum declined, and Ledwabe was a stationary African (a little like Clottey) not AFRICAN-AMERICAN, it's two different cultures completely.
Still don't make sense why it would make for him to avoid a specific race. Skin or race or culture has nothing to do with boxing, And when did Manny ever duck?. Cotto-Floyd 140? c'mon that's all in favor for Floyd.
It all says the same why Floyd is avoiding people his own weight, And made JMM go up weight for him. A bloated slowed Marquez was fighting that night.
I never questioned Floyd's skills. But I always questioned his heart to fight,
Say sh*t about Pac all you want but you can never his heart to fight.
And that's why he wanted to fight Mayweather in the first place. Because he proved he can beat solid straight up fighters. It's time for him to face his biggest challenge, Mayweather.
and again. People let's just stop arguing about the fighters. And love the fact that the biggest fight of our generation will happen eventually :boxing:
i honestly dont believe manny has anything that can beat mayweather besides manny being a southpaw and mayweather seems to struggle with those...but other than that mayweather by boring UD