Cotto vs Margocheato
Margocheato vs Mosley
Mosley vs Cotto
Clottey Vs Margocheato
Clottey vs Cotto
Pacquaio vs Cotto
P-will Vs Margocheato
Soon
Pacquaio Vs Clottey
Berto Vs Mosley
You can even add
Berto vs Collazo
And the name Missing is Floyd jr.
He last 2 fight were JMM a LW and Ricky Hatton a JWW.
Cotto vs Margocheato
Margocheato vs Mosley
Mosley vs Cotto
Clottey Vs Margocheato
Clottey vs Cotto
Pacquaio vs Cotto
P-will Vs Margocheato
Soon
Pacquaio Vs Clottey
Berto Vs Mosley
You can even add
Berto vs Collazo
And the name Missing is Floyd jr.
He last 2 fight were JMM a LW and Ricky Hatton a JWW.
Well hatton only had one fight at welter and he won a belt from collazo and even knocked him down. You claim Collazo as a top 10 so surely ricky has to count as a top ten welter too, maybe not a top 5 but certainly a top ten. He also beat Oscar who was a 154 beltholder, that has to count for something.
So his last 4 fights he beat the lineal ww champ, a 154 pound champ, an undefeated 140 champ who had fought and beat a top 10 ww while winning a belt at ww, and beat a top 5 p4p fighter who moved up too much in weight as a tune up after a long layoff.
If Pac had KO'd Floyd would you not mention his name as another elite top 5 ww fighter that pac had beaten?
If you have to ask a dumb question like this. You must be a pactard that just discovered boxing. "peeleft:
I bet I been watching boxing longer then you..
exactly, i don't even know why he is #2 in the pound-for-pound list ?!!
He's been a welterweight for few years now and he doesn't have any of the elite welters on his resume (no williams, margo, cotto, mosley, collazo, cintron, berto, and now not even pacquiao)
he had jmm (a lightweight) and hatton (a junior welter) as his last two fights!
Is this pound-for-pound worthy at all ???
how bout dlh at 154??
Exactly, I don't even know why he is #2 in the Pound-for-pound list ?!!
He's been a welterweight for few years now and he doesn't have any of the elite welters on his resume (no Williams, Margo, Cotto, Mosley, Collazo, Cintron, Berto, and now not even Pacquiao)
He had JMM (a lightweight) and Hatton (a junior welter) as his last two fights!
Is this pound-for-pound worthy at all ???
I agree.....
Cotto vs Margocheato
Margocheato vs Mosley
Mosley vs Cotto
Clottey Vs Margocheato
Clottey vs Cotto
Pacquaio vs Cotto
P-will Vs Margocheato
Soon
Pacquaio Vs Clottey
Berto Vs Mosley
You can even add
Berto vs Collazo
And the name Missing is Floyd jr.
He last 2 fight were JMM a LW and Ricky Hatton a JWW.
the same way hopkins is ranked #1 at LHW, even tho the last true LHW contender or champion he fought was tarver in 2006!
**** outta here.... :nonono:
maybe because he was the last undisputed welterweight champion
the real question is what makes Clottey top 5 as some of the Pacfans say?
Any respectable boxing fan would have Clottey in the top at least 7. He's at least 5 in my book, he's had tough tough fights with all the top guys.
mayweather-baldomir-judah-spinks-mayorga-forrest-mosley-de la hoya.. etc
thats how the lineal WW championship has been passed in recent years.
not to mention when judah beat spinks it was for the IBF, WBC and WBA titles. UNDISPUTED! u know what that means?
u can dismiss him as chicken dance judah if u want to but the fact remains he and only he was the number one WW in the world. in fact he was the last undisputed WW champion since baldomir vacated some belts due to money.
and it was those then paper titles that guys like cotto picked up. judah was the man back then, thats a fact.
strange how none of those guys fought the guy who was ranked number 1 at welterweight for 5 years. it's almost like they were ducking him...........well i hope they enjoyed their lil party amongst themselves.
Based on talent? He's #1.
Based on accomplishments at WW over the past 2 years? No. Since he was retired for 21 months and came back to fight a lightweight.
Really no point to this thread besides attracting attention to yourself.
How can you say he #1 based on Talent when he fought no one?
Chickendance Judah? Come on :alcoholic
mayweather-baldomir-judah-spinks-mayorga-forrest-mosley-de la hoya.. etc
thats how the lineal WW championship has been passed in recent years.
not to mention when judah beat spinks it was for the IBF, WBC and WBA titles. UNDISPUTED! u know what that means?
u can dismiss him as chicken dance judah if u want to but the fact remains he and only he was the number one WW in the world. in fact he was the last undisputed WW champion since baldomir vacated some belts due to money.
and it was those then paper titles that guys like cotto picked up. judah was the man back then, thats a fact.
forget clottey, baldomir beat judah.
now judah has fell of, but then he had just beat spinks for the WBC, WBA, IBF and Ring Mag titles. he was the universally recognized WW champion of the world, baldy beat him it was a fluke. but floyd made sure to prove who was the man by beating both. he only properly defended his title once against hatton. and then retired and hasnt done shit since, but he does deserve top be a top 5 WW based on beating the two top WWs even if it was a while ago.
Chickendance Judah? Come on :alcoholic
Mayweather did "destroy" Baldomir
and Baldomir according to one Flomo "destroyed" Clottey. :439:
forget clottey, baldomir beat judah.
now judah has fell of, but then he had just beat spinks for the WBC, WBA, IBF and Ring Mag titles. he was the universally recognized WW champion of the world, baldy beat him it was a fluke. but floyd made sure to prove who was the man by beating both. he only properly defended his title once against hatton. and then retired and hasnt done shit since, but he does deserve top be a top 5 WW based on beating the two top WWs even if it was a while ago.
where are they now?
carlos baldomir-lost his welterweight crown to floyd mayweather in a stunningly boring display of cowardice and impotence. and then he lost every fight since then. baldomir says he would like to challenge reggie strickland's record of most losses by a professional boxer. is now residing in argentina with his wife and 16 children selling carpet samples. when he tells people he was the welterweight champ they just point and laugh.
Cotto vs Margocheato
Margocheato vs Mosley
Mosley vs Cotto
Clottey Vs Margocheato
Clottey vs Cotto
Pacquaio vs Cotto
P-will Vs Margocheato
Soon
Pacquaio Vs Clottey
Berto Vs Mosley
You can even add
Berto vs Collazo
And the name Missing is Floyd jr.
He last 2 fight were JMM a LW and Ricky Hatton a JWW.
people have a way of taking potential or speculation as fact.