seems like floyd alwasy gets the heat for fighting smaller guys when he started at a smaller weight.... But Pac can fight anyone even chris john right now and we respect that why??????
Because Floyd has filled into his body and Pac is what..........?
A fight is a fight i know 160 pders who KO 200 pders weight aint shit but a lbs... its doesnt weigh heart, form, destiny, strength, etc...
5'6 or 5'8 all im saying is if you fight at 147 and a 140 lber challenges or accepts the fight at 147, thats on him.....
A fu cking fight is a fight records and all you dont know whos gonna win, specaiily when theres only a 7-10 lb difference... or a ****ign 2"in difference, 2"in may be a big deal for my dic k size, but not in a ****ing boxing ring!
Just accept who Floyd fights next and watch him win, then worry about Pac or Mosely being next! This fight is a gimme cuz all the other WW you guys say FLoyd has ducked are no longer relevent!
PBF has done the best job I've ever seen selling himself as a big man...do you guys really believe he's a big man???
Unlike most people I don't blindly follow the all the rhetoric...
Pbf fought odlh at 154...I don't think anyone would dispute this...if you remember he came into the fight at 152...odlh rehydrated to whatever weight and pbf stayed at 152...this is after he bulked up...so he wasn't and still isn't a natural 154 pounder...no matter what he says...
Let's use some common sense pbf is only looking to make the most money...period...he doesn't care about belts..
remember these words when talking about both of these fighters...
RISK REWARD...This how everyone of there fights are selected...both fighters give themselves as many advantages as possible and sell them to the buying public as if they're climbing mt. Everest...
Give me a frigging break...
Pbf was chasing odlh because he was going to make a windfall of cash...and Now he's chasing PAC because there's another windfall to be made...and PAC on the way up from 135 didn't fight the hardest challengers at there optimal weight and condition with maybe the exception of Hatton...and that was iffy based on how hatton looked prior to PAC the fight prior to PAC
pbf isn't going to risk an L before taking on PAC and regardless of what many folks think fighting clottey is somewhat of a risk but something doesn't sit well with that logic because PAC beat the dog snot out of the guy who got a w but in the very least fought clottey to a draw. very least fought
Bottomline they are both 147 pounders and should be fighting 147 pounders ... So if pbf is fighting Campbell he deserves to get sh!t.
and PAC fans shouldn't be trying shape his next fight like he's fighting the next coming!
Yes but if the limit is changed to 145, the fight is no longer WW rules is it?
I hear what you are saying but since the limit is actually within the welterweight division weight classification- anything ranging from 141-147, the fight is considered a welterweight title fight. Two true welters fighting in the welterweight division usually both weigh in as close to the limit as they can to avoid giving up a weight advantage and to avoid dehydrating themselves- they could come in at 144 if they wanted to fight for the title.
Yes but if the limit is changed to 145, the fight is no longer WW rules is it?
GOD, you are dense. So who should we listen to? You? Or the boxing judges, governing body, and everybody else who says pac beat Cotto at welterweight?
You can say what you want but at the end of the day, pac has a welterweight title. IT IS IN THE HISTORY BOOKS.
That's bullshit. I've explained this before. 140.0000000000000000000000001-147 is welterweight. Those are the rules. You can't weigh over 147, but OF COURSE you can weigh under.
Yes but if the limit is changed to 145, the fight is no longer WW rules is it?
What it is, a catchweight fight. The WW title shouldn't have been up for grabs.
That's bullshit. I've explained this before. 140.0000000000000000000000001-147 is welterweight. Those are the rules. You can't weigh over 147, but OF COURSE you can weigh under.
Exactly you said it yourself WW is up to 147 not up to 145, setting the limit at 145 is not WW rules so shouldn't be a WW fight.
What should it be called then?
You're wrong. The a welterweight fight is UP TO 147. You know that right? No where in the rules does it say you CANNOT weigh under 147. It says you can't weigh OVER 147.
Exactly you said it yourself WW is up to 147 not up to 145, setting the limit at 145 is not WW rules so shouldn't be a WW fight.
seems like floyd alwasy gets the heat for fighting smaller guys when he started at a smaller weight.... But Pac can fight anyone even chris john right now and we respect that why??????
Because Floyd has filled into his body and Pac is what..........?
A fight is a fight i know 160 pders who KO 200 pders weight aint shit but a lbs... its doesnt weigh heart, form, destiny, strength, etc...
The difference is that Pac isn't fighting Chris John and well, I don't really know who Mayweather is fighting but I can tell you he isn't as tough as Clottey whoever he is.
The WW limit is 147, when you change the limit it is no longer a WW fight because you've changed the WW rules. Rules are there for a reason, if you let boxers pick and choose the WW limit that makes it unfair.
You're wrong. The a welterweight fight is UP TO 147. You know that right? No where in the rules does it say you CANNOT weigh under 147. It says you can't weigh OVER 147.
He was the WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION. ask anyone, its not the 147 belt, WELTER buddy, welter.
The WW limit is 147, when you change the limit it is no longer a WW fight because you've changed the WW rules. Rules are there for a reason, if you let boxers pick and choose the WW limit that makes it unfair.
So 145 is an official weight class now? LMAO!
And Cotto DID have a 147 title. He was the WBO Welterweight Champion. That was the same title held previously by Paul Williams @ 147.
You owned yourself buddy.
145 is welterweight, the guy is right.
Floyd will NEVER fight Mosley and he just proved it by fighting in April.
seems like floyd alwasy gets the heat for fighting smaller guys when he started at a smaller weight.... But Pac can fight anyone even chris john right now and we respect that why??????
Because Floyd has filled into his body and Pac is what..........?
A fight is a fight i know 160 pders who KO 200 pders weight aint shit but a lbs... its doesnt weigh heart, form, destiny, strength, etc...
Pac moves up in weight to fight fighter
Floyd has people moving up to fight him
/end thread
Pacquiao's fighting the bigger guys NOW, and Floyd's fighting smaller guys NOW, so naturally people will respect what Pacquiao is doing more.
Floyd used to fight bigger opponents, but hasn't really done anything of note since 2007 other than beat a great featherweight/lightweight.
He was the WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION. ask anyone, its not the 147 belt, WELTER buddy, welter.
Also 147 is the maximum allowable weight for a welter it's not written in stone anywhere that a welterweight fight has to have that maximim weigh limit allowed. A welterweight bought can take place anywhere between 141 and 147 so yes the Cotto vs Pac bout was a ligit welterweight fight.
So 145 is an official weight class now? LMAO!
And Cotto DID have a 147 title. He was the WBO Welterweight Champion. That was the same title held previously by Paul Williams @ 147.
You owned yourself buddy.
You do realize there is a diffrence between someone losing two pounds(It's essentially one less meal the day before the weigh in) Vs fighting guys a full weight class or two below you.
Even a mongaloid child can tell that this is comparing apples to elephents.
So 145 is an official weight class now? LMAO!
And Cotto DID have a 147 title. He was the WBO Welterweight Champion. That was the same title held previously by Paul Williams @ 147.
You owned yourself buddy.
He was the WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION. ask anyone, its not the 147 belt, WELTER buddy, welter.
seems like floyd alwasy gets the heat for fighting smaller guys when he started at a smaller weight.... But Pac can fight anyone even chris john right now and we respect that why??????
Because Floyd has filled into his body and Pac is what..........?
A fight is a fight i know 160 pders who KO 200 pders weight aint shit but a lbs... its doesnt weigh heart, form, destiny, strength, etc...
For god's sake do Floyd fans ever stop fucking crying?