A Boxer's Resume

You just confirmed the TS entire point, thanks. Exactly! :boxing:

baldomir vs lacy make it happen people.

mercado was only considered good for the middleweight division, which was literaly filled with bums while hopkins reigned Mercado was a solid fighter, nevertheless.

mercado was only considered good for the middleweight division, which was literaly filled with bums while hopkins reigned

What a well thought-out post and one I agree with 100%. Nevertheless, I think your two examples are kind've bad given how overrated both of those wins are. But your premise is so correct. Kudos. Thanks. They were the first two that popped into my head!

I watched Hopkins vs Mercado I&II earlier and it got me thinking about resumes. Back in the day, a win over "a Mercado" would have been seen as good; the highest ranking contender, solid fighter - excellent. Nowadays, people only rate the wins against elite competition that will stand up to scrutiny after a period of time, e.g. The Calzaghe win over Lacy and the Mayweather win over Baldomir. At the time they were both lauded as opponents, now they're widely discredited. Has the average fan descended so far? It appears every win is now examined far more than beforehand and merely "good" wins are quickly dismissed if the opponent is not at least a HOFer. Thoughts? What a well thought-out post and one I agree with 100%. Nevertheless, I think your two examples are kind've bad given how overrated both of those wins are. But your premise is so correct. Kudos.

it differs in each case. some fighters are hyped and others just fell of. lacy and baldomir where never good to begin with. baldomir fought a finished gatti who was never all that good to begin with, and judah who hadnt even trained for the fight. lacy doesnt have a single impressiove win in his entire career. baldomir got lucky and lacy was all hype. neighter is a impressive win, mercado was a pretty good fighter though, and considering hopkins fought him in his backyard the first time around, got of the canvas twice to rally back and get a draw, and in the second fight dominate him.. i think both those performances are impressive. i think mercado was a good fighter who just never made it. again baldomir was just lucky and lacy was just hyped up trash. i mean those guys got chances since and never did shit, mercado just didnt get much of a chance.

Bumpage...

Just for you........... Haha! That is why I picked Baldomir as an example, many people (myself included) disregard that win. I wonder if was the same back in the day?

It happens to every elite boxer, anybody who didn't make it to the HOF will be heralded as weak competition. It has to be at least a Champion or an Ex-champ for it to be recognized a little.........and a HOF to be affirmed. Nah, if it's an ex-champ they're past prime! LOL.

Well in the end all fighters will face this scrutiny really... Your remembered for your best wins... When people look bad there not gonna be impressed by Baldomir's resume...or recognize more than a name or 2 on Mercado's resume... Exactly my point. Mercado was a good fighter and should be counted as a good win. There is more to a fighters resume than "the best win". I swear, if Robinson was alive today he'd be derided for fighting a "one-dimensional" LaMotta 6 times and would have been "exposed" after his one loss to him! :boxing:

Well in the end all fighters will face this scrutiny really... Your remembered for your best wins... When people look bad there not gonna be impressed by Baldomir's resume...or recognize more than a name or 2 on Mercado's resume...

I agree in principle, however Baldomir is not a good example, Judah would have been a better example. If you want to see a fighter who truely suffers from this syndrome and the associated "if you lose you're a bum" look at Ricky Hatton. True. Malignaggi is another. I picked Baldomir because he held the lineal crown. I have discredited him myself as an "average" win.

I agree in principle, however Baldomir is not a good example, Judah would have been a better example. If you want to see a fighter who truely suffers from this syndrome and the associated "if you lose you're a bum" look at Ricky Hatton.