Why dosent Pac just take a test and end all the speculations?

mayweather's own fans admit that pbf is known for his mind games, almost everyone plays it. if you still can't still understand the concept of mind games, god help you. A blood test 14 days before the fight is a mind game??? Really? I thought it was just a blood test

LOL at all the mind games accusations. Damn I couldnt bring myself down to the level of ignorance you need to be at even for my favorite athlethe in any situation to imply something that stupid. Floyds not smart enough to put together a 1000 count puzzle let alone mastermind a scheme to infiltrate and poison the mind of Pac. Anyone saying that is a complete dick riding idiot.

i already posted this on another thread but luckily i had it saved on my notepad since i expected more of these kinds of threads to pop up. "i'll try to go as slow as i can so you can fully understand their stance. pac and pbf's method of negotiations involve a series of mind games that may affect the outcome of the fight itself, similar in a sense to a poker match. you have to be firm enough if you're planning to win. mayweather's team accusing pac of taking steroids/ped's/hgh/zoloft/extenze/nuvering/etc. and wanting pac to take additional drug tests can be compared to one poker player accusing another of cheating without solid proof and requesting a search for the certain individual. now, if you are the said poker player being accused sure, you can accommodate that guy's demands and clean your name, but why would you when you don't really have to? the smarter thing to do is let the said player grasp for evidences and proofs that you are cheating, leave him guessing since this will affect him mentally... the more he believes that you are cheating and that he can't prove it, the better since he will start doubting his own judgement later on. if and only if the said player gets enough proof to warrant a full body search should you agree to it and finally prove your innocence. why? because you do not want yourself, under any circumstance helping your opponent fight his own mental game." Your logic is flawwed. This isnt just ant old poker game, this is the world series of world series poker games and your poker player didnt want to use a new type of poker cards that prevent cheating. By doing so he lost out on a chance at a 50 million dollar poker pot, and a chance to solidfy himself as one of the GOAT of poker. Dosent make sense now does it?

I cant think of reason why not, Discuss. Floyd wants to manipulate Pac's mind. Floyd lost here because he can't get want he wants and he needs more money than Pac so he needs him more than Pac needs Floyd! Pac can retire now = a lot of cash, product endorsements, actor, singer, businessman, politician and many more. Floyd retire now..opssss.... he can't = he's bankrupt and he needs money to support his flashy lifestyles.

Yes and the second they do I will advocate Pac taking the blood tests and not a second sooner. The rules of boxing are more important than floyd Snr's deluded mumblings. However if they do go to full olympic testing expect boxing to disappear inside 5 years, Boxing cannot financially support olympic testing pst the top 20 fighters per division and promoters are not going to be able to put on cards for lower level fighter and as soon as the grass roots disappear you can wave bye bye to pro boxing. people have to consider how much money the countries govening olympic bodies and Olympic commission put into random drug testing, boxing does not have a similar body to pay or enforce the testing. . This is a good point but another issue, IMO. Coz who will shoulder the brunt of testing procedures? the Commission, but the commission will ask for higher fees to the promoters thus, lessening the take home pay of the boxer specially the upcoming or the GRASS ROOTS.

Let me ask you a simple question. Let's ignore how the NASC and the NBA and all other entities currently handle drug testing. Do you think the NASC should incorporate more stringent drug testing to ensure a competitive and fair platform for boxers?Yes and the second they do I will advocate Pac taking the blood tests and not a second sooner. The rules of boxing are more important than floyd Snr's deluded mumblings. However if they do go to full olympic testing expect boxing to disappear inside 5 years, Boxing cannot financially support olympic testing pst the top 20 fighters per division and promoters are not going to be able to put on cards for lower level fighter and as soon as the grass roots disappear you can wave bye bye to pro boxing. people have to consider how much money the countries govening olympic bodies and Olympic commission put into random drug testing, boxing does not have a similar body to pay or enforce the testing. .

I don't think anybody is claiming that Mayweather is a saint or would deny that he's trying to get under Manny's skin. He's no saint and is trying to get under his skin, but he also wants to ensure that the biggest fight of his career is on a level playing field.... Of course, Floyd is used to do mind games against his opponents. Taking some advantage by playing mind games w/c most of times or sometimes is working against to his opponents. Imagine even before the fight started you already have the edge. Once the opponents mind is screwed then what would you expect on the fight?

I can answer that for him :) Of course not. It's all just speculation at this point. I think people are just frustrated that Pacquaio could have cleared up any suspicion by taking the tests. See, that's the problem with some of the posters here. But if you call Floyd some funny names of course they will get offended and butt hurt. But asking them about PROOF to anything they said about ROIDs & CHEATING they cannot answer. Funny isn't it?

He should do it coz he demanded it, but with malicious intent on the side. I don't think anybody is claiming that Mayweather is a saint or would deny that he's trying to get under Manny's skin. He's no saint and is trying to get under his skin, but he also wants to ensure that the biggest fight of his career is on a level playing field....

If Mayweather is actually willing to take the tests and follows through, you can't call it a ploy anymore. From all reports, Floyd was willing to subject himself to more stringent testing than Pacquiao was. It would great if NASC incorporated more stringent drug testing. Then we'd have to see if Pacquaio and Mayweather both back up their talking and get into the ring together.... He should do it coz he demanded it, but with malicious intent on the side.

That`s just an excuse your using for Pac to cover for his a**.Deep down all you pactard knows he`s on something and i believe one day ya`ll gonna confess cause ya`ll can`t keep it bottled up in ya`ll forever. Excuse my a$$! Go home and plant sweet potatoes in your backyard, you will be more of useful then.

Let me ask you a simple question. Let's ignore how the NASC and the NBA and all other entities currently handle drug testing. Do you think the NASC should incorporate more stringent drug testing to ensure a competitive and fair platform for boxers? YES, they should, it's A MUST. They should have done this long time ago.

so i'm supposed to just ignore the fact that manny became a complete fighter over the last couple of years huh... No..why ignore it?

Do you have a SOLID EVIDENCE/PROOF? I can answer that for him :) Of course not. It's all just speculation at this point. I think people are just frustrated that Pacquaio could have cleared up any suspicion by taking the tests.

All I can say is I hope Clottey beats the crap out of our little drug Cheat Do you have a SOLID EVIDENCE/PROOF?

So, let's wait until the NASC incorporate the new testing procedures requested by Team Mayweather. Pacquiao even made a statement the he'll abide by the ruling of NASC but until then it's just a ploy by the Mayweather team to get into the mind games with Team Pacquiao. I was not pointing my finger to Jr but to the main accuser Mayweather Sr. If Mayweather is actually willing to take the tests and follows through, you can't call it a ploy anymore. From all reports, Floyd was willing to subject himself to more stringent testing than Pacquiao was. It would great if NASC incorporated more stringent drug testing. Then we'd have to see if Pacquaio and Mayweather both back up their talking and get into the ring together....

The only way the roid cheater can clear his name is by taking a random blood test not a stupid lawsuit.Even after the lawsuit people are gonna suspect he`s roiding. He will BUT NOT B-COZ Mayweather says so.

Ummm... that's what I do when I am TRYING TO HIDE SOMETHING... That's like saying your not cheating on your girl unless you get caught... Innocent people are eager to clear their name... This is similiar to Kordell Stewart saying why does his sexual orientation matter when asked if he was gay... Get out of here with that law school bullsh*t... Your biasness is clouding your judgement... pacqauio is a cheater straight up... and he knows it... Everyone knows thoise who plead the 5th have something to hide... Do you have a SOLID PROOF?

LeBron, Kobe, Dwyane Wade already know that once they are in the NBA they will have to subject themselves to such test. And it is being implemented by NBA Commission not by ANY PLAYER OR TEAM. But in boxing it has never been done and NSAC is the governing body to perform the tests. IF the NSAC test is random blood testing eversince Team Pac will have to abide (they said they will abide), NOT B-COZ a boxer demanded it, Mayweather for that matter. So that's the very BIG OBVIOUS difference. Let me ask you a simple question. Let's ignore how the NASC and the NBA and all other entities currently handle drug testing. Do you think the NASC should incorporate more stringent drug testing to ensure a competitive and fair platform for boxers?

Since Pacquiao started professional boxing he passed all tests with flying colors. He was never found guilty of using PED, so I would say he is clean as a whistle. The only problem that he has was he was kicking ass and beaten all opponents in a brutal fashion. To tell you the truth I have more confidence with the boxing commission than the accuser who has zero credibility. Peace Floyd has never failed neither, but i wouldn't let my homerism gets in the way and say he has never used steroid before. Shane Mosley has never tested positive neither. The are so many drugs out there that can get out of your system in less than 24 hours. I wouldn't try to deny any Athletes whether they have always pass their test or not, we fans don't know what they do with their personal lives, we shouldn't deny nor accuse any athletes, but we should all be suspicious because no human being is perfect. I thought he would had no problem with the 14 days requests, and as soon as i learned he knew about it and still rejected it, from that moment i knew something wasn't right.