If Oscar Dela Hoya lasted up to the 9th Round, I therefore conclude that Mayweather didn't even want to fight him at all... throwing in the towel on the Zero round. haha
Yes. He just throw in the towel.
No. Pac is really on steroids
Is it considered as a defeat on Mayweather's side?
I agree with this dude and I used to actually like Manny and be a Floyd hater now I just hate everyone
Will Mayweather accuse Mosley of using steroids? Why not?
So you do agree with me that "Lil Floyd is a "Drama Queen" who just wouldn't drop his act and agree to the 24-day testing cutoff. Once again, What is he afraid of? If he had only afforded the Pacman the 10-day difference in the testing, this fight would be on but no, Pretty Boy wants it his way even at the expense of "Blowing" this fight. I look at it this way. 'Lil Floyd's extreme confidence and empty rhetoric were useless in this negotiation. I really hope he sits down and figures out where he failed and maybe when the opportunity to fight the Pacman arises down the road, he will not "Blow" his chance again with stupid demands and stipulations. JAT
Wasn't it you (or your other lady fan personality) that had said Floyd was no longer confident,yet now you are saying he is....you must really be hardcore Manny fans,because he can't keep his story straight either.
So you do agree with me that "Lil Floyd is a "Drama Queen" who just wouldn't drop his act and agree to the 24-day testing cutoff. Once again, What is he afraid of? If he had only afforded the Pacman the 10-day difference in the testing, this fight would be on but no, Pretty Boy wants it his way even at the expense of "Blowing" this fight. I look at it this way. 'Lil Floyd's extreme confidence and empty rhetoric were useless in this negotiation. I really hope he sits down and figures out where he failed and maybe when the opportunity to fight the Pacman arises down the road, he will not "Blow" his chance again with stupid demands and stipulations. JAT
Amazing how long your response is,yet you could never justify or answer any questions I raised...
Whatever you are saying does NOT change the fact that Manny signed with someone else because his idea of compromise is cheap.Like I have said a million times,Mayweather still hasn't signed anyone else,yet Manny was quick to look for other opponents during negotiations and the mediation with Floyd....
Floyd sr, Floyd jr, Roger and everybody whose surname is Mayweather, and that includes all of Floyd jr's fans and all the flomos in the world, used to claim before the manny/cotto fight, that manny was and will be the easiest fight for floyd to win, no contest as they all used to say. Now after the cotto fight, suddenly floyd wanted it fair and square and demanded for an Olympic Style Drug Testing with 7-8 random blood tests. Wtf is that?! I thought, as floyd sr. used to claim, manny is way way off the level of little floyd's skills and will kill manny no sweat, now everything is unfair to floyd?! Wtf is that?! AND DON'T THE MAYWEATHERS KNOW THAT IN THE OLYMPICS, ATHLETES WERE ONLY REQUIRED TO SUBJECT THEMSELVES TO 2 RANDOM BLOOD TESTS THE ENTIRE OLYMPIC CALENDAR, FROM PRE-QUALIFYING UPTO THE FINALS!! So WTF is that now?!!!
The fight didn't happen because of Floyd. :no:
Floyd sr, Floyd jr, Roger and everybody whose surname is Mayweather, and that includes all of Floyd jr's fans and all the flomos in the world, used to claim before the manny/cotto fight, that manny was and will be the easiest fight for floyd to win, no contest as they all used to say. Now after the cotto fight, suddenly floyd wanted it fair and square and demanded for an Olympic Style Drug Testing with 7-8 random blood tests. Wtf is that?! I thought, as floyd sr. used to claim, manny is way way off the level of little floyd's skills and will kill manny no sweat, now everything is unfair to floyd?! Wtf is that?! AND DON'T THE MAYWEATHERS KNOW THAT IN THE OLYMPICS, ATHLETES WERE ONLY REQUIRED TO SUBJECT THEMSELVES TO 2 RANDOM BLOOD TESTS THE ENTIRE OLYMPIC CALENDAR, FROM PRE-QUALIFYING UPTO THE FINALS!! So WTF is that now?!!!
yes...floyd never really wanted the fight......he's a pretender just not a great one...:boxing:Anyone who believes Floyd didn't want this fight is retarded.
Because being clean has nothing to do with Floyd. Your so blinded by your hate towards Floyd, that you wouldn't even mind Manny cheating to beat him.
Just because you don't like Floyds arrogance doesn't make it okay for Manny to use PED's, sorry bro.
Show me he's using illegal PED's.
Sad part in boxing that the fight wont happen. Floyd's and associates keep on bringing PED without proof. Did anybody hear Pacman or any of his associates bringing up Xylocaine to floyd? LOL...talk about being fair.
Xylocaine\lidocaine as it is called in the medical profession is not illegal it is a local anesthetic.
The only conclusion is that Pac ran away from either Floyd or the drug test
That is the only conclusion I can come to as well .... it seems that Pacman started having second thoughts about taking the fight.
Agree...Manny´s image went south really bad for me....He was proposing alternate fights since the beginning and didn´t want to make the fight...and with all contradictions in his Team he looked as guilty as he can be...or he was plain ducking PBF.
Pacman unknowingly did alot of damange to his reputation by not agreeing to the tests. And it will always be mentioned when the fight that never happened is talked about.
Yes Floyd wanted random blood tests,but Manny wanted 10,000,000 dollars for a fraction of a pound over the weight limit.He actually demanded that first-probably to scare Mayweather out of the fight with an over the top demand.
Floyd also made an unconventional demand for protection of BOTH fighters,to make sure nobody is doping.Tell me which one is fair.....one demand has the best interest in himself,while the other demand has the best interest for all parties involved-unless someone is doping.
I can't for the life of me understand why Pacman didn't want to test two weeks pre-fight. To throw 40 MILLION dollars away for that is totally illogical and can only be explained by the foolish. No one, No one throws a fight that can bring in that kind of money away because of blood testing two weeks out from the event. Unless they are afraid of what those tests would reveal.
THAT IS HISTORIC!!!!!!!!! AND UNHEARD OF IN ANY SPORT.:werd:
floyd ran away from 40 million because of a suspicion. at least pac has a reason behind his demands, floyd however has none. and quit with the pac never wanted the tests talk. why would pac agree to any type of tests if he was guilty and especially after the fight.
He is doing that to discredit Pacquiao.
On the top of his career, we filipinos embraced Mohammad Ali's greatness, we even named a Mall after him in respect of Black People. Now, we have Pacquiao, he will represent the hard working filipinos all across the globe... and this is what you're doing to him. So... if Martin Luther King Jr. is alive, he will be ashamed of Mayweather. :D
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You're a loser.Floyd came off of a 2 year lay-off and did something that Manny couldn't do-convincingly beat Marquez.He did that as a warm up fight!
Go piss in the wind.
making marquez move up 2 divisions and then cheat on the weights. hang on every flomo accusing pac with no evidence when the real cheat is under your noses. floyd mayweather is a known cheat.
you are a liar. floyd came out to pay his bills. floyd came out of retirement to accuse the pfp 1 fighter of steroids then ask for blood tests. thats coming out of retirement to make excuses.
You're a loser.Floyd came off of a 2 year lay-off and did something that Manny couldn't do-convincingly beat Marquez.He did that as a warm up fight!
Go piss in the wind.
"Having" a proposal with the Best Boxer in the World is not fair.
MAYWEATHER destroyed the fight. He disappoints Millions of people from all walks of life.
...of this generation and the next and the next and the next!
Having PROPOSALS is part of negotiations-something Manny can't seem to do well.He always wants EVERYTHING, just look at the Hatton and Cotto fights,where the fights were almost canceled because Manny had his own "proposals"-Keep in mind at the time Cotto and Hatton were the belt holders with very devout followings as well!
You bf Manny was the one who was looking for other fights before negotiations had ended and signed Clottey only 2 days afterwards.Notice that Mayweather hasn't signed to fight anyone yet-because he was waiting for Manny!!!! duh
So who left the fight?
Floyd seemed confident to me....Didn't he start mocking Manny calling him "one-dimensional","an easy fight",etc? Funny that Manny didn't mention how Floyd would be easy though,nor did Roach-in fact,they wanted more time to train to figure out how to beat Floyd!.So tell me who is lacking in the confidence? It appears to me that Floyd got in Manny's head and Manny was looking for another fight before the negotiations began!!!! He would rather waste his time in court and cry "Mayweather's a bully"-does that sound like a warrior's mentality to you????
He got scared of mind games,blood tests,and trying to sort out his own team's B.S.stories so much that he ran away from Floyd as soon as he wanted to "whip Manny's punk ass".Tell me which fighter signed a different fight first????
If Manny is running from fights with top welter weights himself (remember,Floyd came out of retirement for Manny, Shane Mosely chased Manny,and Manny don't want none of Williams!) as well as random blood tests,and honesty- how the hell is he gonna sign a fight against someone who is more skilled than him????
you are a liar. floyd came out to pay his bills. floyd came out of retirement to accuse the pfp 1 fighter of steroids then ask for blood tests. thats coming out of retirement to make excuses.
Because being clean has nothing to do with Floyd. Your so blinded by your hate towards Floyd, that you wouldn't even mind Manny cheating to beat him.
Just because you don't like Floyds arrogance doesn't make it okay for Manny to use PED's, sorry bro.
floyd ran away from 40 million because of a suspicion. at least pac has a reason behind his demands, floyd however has none. and quit with the pac never wanted the tests talk. why would pac agree to any type of tests if he was guilty and especially after the fight.
HE saw what happened to Cotto and realized how easy this fight was for him--which is why the day after he called manny one dimensional----said manny could absolutely not beat him---said he saw no versatility in manny---said the world won't be shocked if e beats manny--said when he beats manny, don't be surprised--said excuses will come tinfold when he beats manny---said manny knows he as a fighter what he's dealng with--he can't beat me under any cirumsances--this is an easy fight--probably easier than the marquez fight---so floyd knows already and has known how easy a fight this will be---many realized this and started trying to get himself out of it--which he did--but if he gets past clottey--he will have to fight floyd---and he will be dominated by floyd--i'm telling you what i know--this fight will not go the distance--floyd will stop manny after completely shutting him down and punishing him around that ring--and now floyd is pissed---he will talk about manny like he did gatti--i feel it---coz floyd is chasing manny now---he's literally chasing him---and he will rip him to shreds in the press conference and then beat his ass bad in that ring--he will be more offensive--wait and see---you'll see---just wait--
Floyd already beat Manny-he got in his head and scared him out of a fight.If Manny can't handle some trash talk and random blood tests-that shows me who is the scared one.He's scared of an ass whipping and a failed blood testing!!!! I don't know which one he is dodging more.
It's my opinion that 'Lil Floyd did not show his normal overly confident and arrogant demeanor when it came to the actual signing and finalizing of the fight contract. Hmmm... Something seems suspect with his attitude and actions during this negotiation. Is he intimidated by the Pacman? I think so.
Pretty Boy had been labeled a coward for not fighting tough legitimate opponents in the past. Is this cowardice flaw of his coming to the fore once again? Possibly. Only he knows the truth.
Floyd seemed confident to me....Didn't he start mocking Manny calling him "one-dimensional","an easy fight",etc? Funny that Manny didn't mention how Floyd would be easy though,nor did Roach-in fact,they wanted more time to train to figure out how to beat Floyd!.So tell me who is lacking in the confidence? It appears to me that Floyd got in Manny's head and Manny was looking for another fight before the negotiations began!!!! He would rather waste his time in court and cry "Mayweather's a bully"-does that sound like a warrior's mentality to you????
He got scared of mind games,blood tests,and trying to sort out his own team's B.S.stories so much that he ran away from Floyd as soon as he wanted to "whip Manny's punk ass".Tell me which fighter signed a different fight first????
If Manny is running from fights with top welter weights himself (remember,Floyd came out of retirement for Manny, Shane Mosely chased Manny,and Manny don't want none of Williams!) as well as random blood tests,and honesty- how the hell is he gonna sign a fight against someone who is more skilled than him????
IF pac agreed on every condition that floyd suggested he will look like an underdog. He is P4P King !
Secondly if he agreed on drug testing, Floyd will only look for another excuse so he won't fight Pac. HE saw what happened to Cotto.HE saw what happened to Cotto and realized how easy this fight was for him--which is why the day after he called manny one dimensional----said manny could absolutely not beat him---said he saw no versatility in manny---said the world won't be shocked if e beats manny--said when he beats manny, don't be surprised--said excuses will come tinfold when he beats manny---said manny knows he as a fighter what he's dealng with--he can't beat me under any cirumsances--this is an easy fight--probably easier than the marquez fight---so floyd knows already and has known how easy a fight this will be---many realized this and started trying to get himself out of it--which he did--but if he gets past clottey--he will have to fight floyd---and he will be dominated by floyd--i'm telling you what i know--this fight will not go the distance--floyd will stop manny after completely shutting him down and punishing him around that ring--and now floyd is pissed---he will talk about manny like he did gatti--i feel it---coz floyd is chasing manny now---he's literally chasing him---and he will rip him to shreds in the press conference and then beat his ass bad in that ring--he will be more offensive--wait and see---you'll see---just wait--
If you want to talk about polls-isn't it fair to note that most people believed Mayweather's proposal of a 14 day cut-off is more than fair? Didn't Manny run away from the last offer that was far more tolerable to Manny's agenda?
At worst,this test would smoke out any cheaters,and at best, there would be clarity to further prove Manny's legacy to the whole world-not just Floyd fans.Manny does fight for the fans doesn't he-perhaps I am misquoting him....
"Having" a proposal with the Best Boxer in the World is not fair.
MAYWEATHER destroyed the fight. He disappoints Millions of people from all walks of life.
...of this generation and the next and the next and the next!