yeah this demand is old as hell, I dont know why reporters are saying its something new that came out of no where at the very end, of negotiations. Still have not seen one top reporter, or even one from boxingscene write about all these contradictions.
During Cotto Pacquiao, all knew about Mayweather's demands, Pacquiao and his team didn't have a problem.
yeah this demand is old as hell, I dont know why reporters are saying its something new that came out of no where at the very end, of negotiations. Still have not seen one top reporter, or even one from boxingscene write about all these contradictions.
Oh my lord you cannot be serious?! This shit needs to get shown in meeting with Roach and them we need Team Pac to stop messin around. They are making themselves look dodgy now and Arum as always is trying to soil Mayweathers name.
It's mad that one day Mayweather was "better than Leonard" but now he's "mentally a coward" or whatever he said. I thought also that Arum had handed over control of negotiations to one of his partners? Why is he still lettin his feelings get involved? I bet Manny don't even care about the tests or else Roach would never have said that.
I would have said Koncz, because of his role in the Hatton-Pac breakdown but even he said it was laughable, so its either they found out that Ariza really is pullin a Panama special mix or (I believe more likely) Arum is just being a bastard...but why wouldn't he want to make MEGA MEGA money? This whole situation baffles and angers me because I want to see these 2 square off but now its lost its lustre a bit but still remains the only relevant fight for them.
Everyone thought Mayweather would be difficult to deal with and maybe thats what Arum was banking on, but Floyd accepted all the demands and made only ONE serious demand of his own, which has been rejected (anyone who seriously believes he wanted the fight at 154 is just hating).
Your intuition is on point. Your gut feeling has been right all along.
But as subtle as it seems, Arum doesn't want to risk his biggest money maker against someone he doesn't like. Regardless of how much money is involved. Odd, but real.
To be fair, Freddie Roach isn't an active part of the negotiating process.
That is just too bad for Manny. Arum and Roach have been sinking Manny's ship for quite some time already and he's not stepping up to bail the water. He's letting it sink to the bottom.
maybe arum never had the intentions of fighting floyd, they kept pac away from pure boxers his whole career, so avoiding the best pure boxer in the sport makes sense.
i mean just listen to all the shit they been saying, so many lies and contradictions exposed. they dont want the fight, and for good reason.
That's the moral of the story.
I've heard of supporting your guy...but this type of allegiance borders on lunacy...I'm talking some JIM JONES type of sh!t!!!
Now, let me be clear there are some very very logical Pac fans - They argue their points and are willing to post their arguments with some intelligent back and forth...but that number cannot be that high given the number of Pac support threads...How about taking your guy to task in your own threads...It's apparent that PBF supporters and non-PAC/PBF boxing fans aren't going help change your minds - So you must do it yourselves...
Now, by the same token there are alot of idiotic PBF fans who try to make their points but F*CK up the opportunity for some intelligent back in forth by mixing in name calling with their points...
With that being said, two points...
1. This is getting more and more embarrasing by the day for Pac - To many lies and excuses for someone who's reportedly clean as a whistle...ALL reasons for not taking the tests have been completely DEBUNKED...EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM!!!
***If you don't agree and I'd like to hear your take - I WILL NOT respond to any posts with name calling because although, I can play that game, it would unfourtunately become entirely to tiresome and we'd get NOWHERE.
2. The choice of Clottey as a replacement, REALLY suprises me!!! He's a Tough choice, especially when you consider the whole high risk-low reward thing...He has more power than PBF, good shell defense, decent chin and a solid jab...and when I say low reward, I mean money obviously and fighting a guy who just lost to the very same guy he just KILLED doesn't make to much sense, for someones career coming to an end. I personally think Arum is trying to pad his pocket and still have a guy in the discussion for a future PBF fight. This has led me to think Manny and his team from the Philippines can't be that smart...I'd think, they'd see right through Arums schenanigans (Hopefully I spelled that correctly, been wanting to use that word for a long time) and decline.
***Keys - Will Clottey come in shape??? I think he will...and will they fight at 147? I hope so.
OK OK I have a third point to make...
3. PBF...Although, I saw no problem with your team requesting random blood testing leading up to the fight for BOTH fighters -ESPECIALLY, after hearing all the LIES from PAC's team regarding his issues for not taking the random blood tests inside 30 days, then 24 and now 14. He is still INNOCENT until proven guilty but very very suspect nonetheless!! But with that being said, you can't drop the ball...for all of the support you've received you owe us a fight where you are challenged...A MAGs fight WON'T cut it and neither will fighting Hatton's brother...Here is your list and I'd like to know what everyone else thinks...
***in no particular order...Mosely/Berto winner, Timoty Bradley or PWill (Who I think causes the most problems, for obvious reasons)...You must fight at 147 or above or retire...PERIOD
My Dream...Mosely in May if he wins and finish your career with a PWILL fight in the Fall and you'll definetly go down as an ATG...Maybe not the best but definetly on the list...
FIGHT SOME GARBAGE CANS AND I'LL BE ONE OF THE FIRST ONES TO CALL YOU OUT!!!
PEACE MODOBO3!!!
The video has legit evidence
I do find it quite funny that on Bscene lately you can hate on Mayweather all day but soon as you call out Pacquiao it becomes a sensitive subject and yourred Ked called to be banned and called nasty names in the process
Yeah, I'm sure Roach has a double.
thats what I was thinking, I've got one too that answers my calls and gets groceries. This vid is based off nothing more than inferences and assumptions. We don't know whats going on behind closed dooors or how these "meetings" are going.
the video didn't prove anythin it was just the typical false accusations the flomos keep shouting about. Everyone knows floyd ducked this fight with pacman for mathew hatton:439:
yeah don't you know Goldenboy has Roach in their pocket, they can get him to say whatever they want.:439:
the video didn't prove anythin it was just the typical false accusations the flomos keep shouting about. Everyone knows floyd ducked this fight with pacman for mathew hatton:439:
Somehow this just isn't enough information or evidence for Pac fans, its like the abused wife, who thinks getting beat by her husband is her fault, calling a black eye a lil scratch.
Pacquiao and his team have been so stupid. That level of stupidity doesn't even come from a 3rd grader. They could have came out and said, Mayweather vs. Pacquiao for mid to late 2010. Instead, alot of people are questioning Pacquiao's legacy. Only because Ariza, Roach, Arum and Pacquiao opened their mouths and said all the wrong things.
Agreed, although I think in the end Arum had the ability to make this fight happen if he truely wanted to. He's either a complete ****ing idiot or he had no intention of going ahead with the fight.
maybe arum never had the intentions of fighting floyd, they kept pac away from pure boxers his whole career, so avoiding the best pure boxer in the sport makes sense.
i mean just listen to all the shit they been saying, so many lies and contradictions exposed. they dont want the fight, and for good reason.
Pacquiao and his team have been so stupid. That level of stupidity doesn't even come from a 3rd grader. They could have came out and said, Mayweather vs. Pacquiao for mid to late 2010. Instead, alot of people are questioning Pacquiao's legacy. Only because Ariza, Roach, Arum and Pacquiao opened their mouths and said all the wrong things.
maybe arum never had the intentions of fighting floyd, they kept pac away from pure boxers his whole career, so avoiding the best pure boxer in the sport makes sense.
i mean just listen to all the shit they been saying, so many lies and contradictions exposed. they dont want the fight, and for good reason.
To be fair, Freddie Roach isn't an active part of the negotiating process.
no one is saying that..were saying this VIDEO PROVES THAT THEY KNEW OF THE OLYMPIC STYLE TESTING ALL ALONG and that they have continued to back out on their word ...they have been acting like all of a sudden this was a demand from team Mayweather..and when Schaefer said it was in the contract since day 1 and they agreed..I remembered seeing a video of Roach confirming they asked for that specific testing early on and agreed..but couldnt find it..this is the video..except the original is even longer and much more in depth...
I think Roach is the most realistic representation of what Manny feels. I can't see Roach saying anything like this without it being what Manny really felt.