Team Pac looks so stupid/shady if they don't call Floyd on that.
Floyd PUBLICLY offered 14 days. If Team Pac accepted, Floyd would HAVE to accept or be utterly crucified by the boxing public. Going public like that binds you to your word.
Arum bitching about Floyd only talking about this offer now and not during the mediation....WHO CARES? If Floyd publicly offers it, you publicly accept, and you put it on Floyd.
The fact that they're not doing this is really discouraging.
Ok Mayweather has thrown down the 14-day gauntlet- this PROVES he is looking to get the fight made. Arum and Pac can keep making excuses up and trying to fight JMM or Foreman now- they are the ones running scared.
well, i think u are a reasonable floyd fan so i would explain my point. why is it very hard for floyd to accept the 24 day compromise?is he saying that Pac would risk using PEDS during such period coz remember he will be tested again after the fight? so maybe when Pac called their bluff, floyd said no coz in the very first place, it was him who doesnt want the test. it was just floyd's bluff.. just my opinion ala floyd sr
I have no real expertise when it comes to drug testing of athletes. I think at best its a constant war between the drug makers and the testers, and is not an easy thing to test for when you get to the top end of athletes that can afford the best like that Balco stuff. When it comes to getting information on this issue, I think that most people high up in sport would agree that the olympic level testing is the top standard at the moment. That is, if anyone is going to catch you, chances are its their system.
I am not willing to accept the athletic commission of a state as the be all and end all of testing. While I will accept that so far, they have been the top dog when it comes to boxing, however, I think as boxing (like the world in general) becomes more global we need ever more stringent measures to ensure things are fair. I am certainly not necessarily on FLoyd's side here. I am on the side of whoever demands testing of the highest calibre. I think it needs to be instituted totally across the sport. As I mention in every second post, this is a sport where men put their lives potentially on the line to win and I dont think there is any excuse for boxing not to have the same measures to ensure play as almost every other sport professional or amateur. I dont have an opinion on who is scared of who in the mega fight that may never be. I do think boxing needs to think long and hard about things though. This is the perfect oppurtunity for the sanctioning bodies to step in and demand this level of testing for all fights in future.
I want the fight to happen also and believe me am no Mayweather Fan, but the olympic style testing was nothing new. MayJR made it clear he would not fight without olympic style testing before it was brought to the table and Roach even said he was cool with it anytime anywhere. So after Mayweather called on all , Unpresidently(am shocked to be honest), Pacs bluff's, even Pac's last bluff of the 10million penalty. Pac then has an issue with the random testing. MayJR even now is willing to go for 14days. I mean you got to give credit to Floyd for atleast looking like he wants this fight. Floyd has been the one adjusting, date,share, now adjusting his 30days to 14. What has Pac compromised on? Floyd is even being sympathetic to Pacs needle phobia in giving pac two weeks to recover from a shot lol. These guys are professionals and testing shouldn't be an issue for any professional athlete.
well, it's more of a pride thing now i guess..Pac would not stoop that low and accept floyd 14 day compromise. 24 day is more than what NASC demands.but as a boxing fan, i would love Pac to accept the 14 day compromise.
hey if i were Pac i would not even budge to my 30 day limit. that's more that enuf for NASC. so now Pac made the compromise of 24 days, but Mayweather insisted on 14 days after mediation. come on, i want the fight to happen coz right now I wanna see Pac smash the head of mayweather more than anything else. but Pac has pride and he doesnt want to be dictated just like that
I want the fight to happen also and believe me am no Mayweather Fan, but the olympic style testing was nothing new. MayJR made it clear he would not fight without olympic style testing before it was brought to the table and Roach even said he was cool with it anytime anywhere. So after Mayweather called on all , Unpresidently(am shocked to be honest), Pacs bluff's, even Pac's last bluff of the 10million penalty. Pac then has an issue with the random testing. MayJR even now is willing to go for 14days. I mean you got to give credit to Floyd for atleast looking like he wants this fight. Floyd has been the one adjusting, date,share, now adjusting to 14days . What has Pac compromised on? Floyd is even being sympathetic to Pacs needle phobia in giving pac two weeks to recover from a shot lol. These guys are professionals and testing shouldn't be an issue for any professional athlete.
Pacquiao don't want it with Floyd IMO
Just a horrible style matchup for Manny and Freddie would be wise to concentrate on Yuri or Paulie so Pacquiao can retire on a roll
floyd beats everybody in a fantasy fight including ali. :boxing:
Pacquiao don't want it with Floyd IMO
Just a horrible style matchup for Manny and Freddie would be wise to concentrate on Yuri or Paulie so Pacquiao can retire on a roll
Floyd has stated he is willing to take the same tests he is proposing for pacquaio... If I am understanding your barely coherent response.
well, i think u are a reasonable floyd fan so i would explain my point. why is it very hard for floyd to accept the 24 day compromise?is he saying that Pac would risk using PEDS during such period coz remember he will be tested again after the fight? so maybe when Pac called their bluff, floyd said no coz in the very first place, it was him who doesnt want the test. it was just floyd's bluff.. just my opinion ala floyd sr
far more advanced substance that Floyd can use right?that's why he said no to 24 day limit when Pac made a compromise. 14 day limit when the mediation was over by floyd. Doing the floyding again
Floyd has stated he is willing to take the same tests he is proposing for pacquaio... If I am understanding your barely coherent response.
The 14 day compromise wasn't even discussed in mediation period or before it as Floyd said earlier. The guy is puzzle that only him can answer. :nonono:
3. The parties and their representatives authorized that, if misinformation was disclosed to the press by either side, the Mediator would correct any erroneous information.
What?
You are such and idiot. The guy gave you an intelligent response and this is the best you could come with ?
How childish you all come across is beneath me.
You sound like a woman scorned.
You are backing an athlete that is such an ego maniac that he can't take a test for the sake of boxing. If that isn't the case then the guys cheating and you have a real f'd up situation on your hands.
hahaha..yup he answered me intelligently unlike other Floyd fans here that just nuthug Money. and who is the ego maniac "money or manny" the guy is asking something that is unprecedented in the sport. now who is egomaniac?
Dude you didnt read what I said. Im sure that urine and blood tests are both improving over time. You claimed something about urine testing for HGH. I gave you that, however you dont seem to understand that HGH isnt the only thing people use. HGH is what body builders at local gyms use. There are far more advanced substances out there. You are then using a quote from over a year ago, and using it to discount a quote made weeks ago by the same source. You don't have to be a drug expert to know that HGH isnt the be all and end all of performance enhancing drug use. There shouldnt be a cut off at all.
I dont think you will find anyone on the planet who would credit the NSAC with more expertise than the USADA
far more advanced substance that Floyd can use right?that's why he said no to 24 day limit when Pac made a compromise. 14 day limit when the mediation was over by floyd. Doing the floyding again
You sound like a Gatti fan...oh wait !!!
yes i am definitely a Gatti fan.any prob? Gatti was the reason i became a big boxing fan not floyd Gayweather. did i offend u?
hey if i were Pac i would not even budge to my 30 day limit. that's more that enuf for NASC. so now Pac made the compromise of 24 days, but Mayweather insisted on 14 days after mediation. come on, i want the fight to happen coz right now I wanna see Pac smash the head of mayweather more than anything else. but Pac has pride and he doesnt want to be dictated just like that
pacman is being a bitch. saying no to everything just proves he's afraid. he better take the 14 days deal
yeah now ur a drug expert like mayweather sr huh? and this USADA CEO stated his case last year, so i guess their tests should have improved by then. and why would Pac accept the 14 day cut off? coz it's floyd who wants it? how about floyd accepting pac's 24 day cut off?
Dude you didnt read what I said. Im sure that urine and blood tests are both improving over time. You claimed something about urine testing for HGH. I gave you that, however you dont seem to understand that HGH isnt the only thing people use. HGH is what body builders at local gyms use. There are far more advanced substances out there. You are then using a quote from over a year ago, and using it to discount a quote made weeks ago by the same source. You don't have to be a drug expert to know that HGH isnt the be all and end all of performance enhancing drug use. There shouldnt be a cut off at all.
I dont think you will find anyone on the planet who would credit the NSAC with more expertise than the USADA
Did some of you fags read the article he did offer 14 days at the mediation hearing and before!
"Before the mediation, my team proposed a 14-day, no blood testing window leading up to the fight. But it was rejected," Mayweather said. "I am still proposing the 14-day window but he is still unwilling to agree to it, even though this is obviously a fair compromise on my part as I wanted the testing to be up until the fight and he wanted a 30 day cutoff. The truth is he just doesn't want to take the tests.
LOL.....after all the excuses that has come from the Pac camp you have the gall to say this. You just called yourself a Pac groupie.
hey if i were Pac i would not even budge to my 30 day limit. that's more that enuf for NASC. so now Pac made the compromise of 24 days, but Mayweather insisted on 14 days after mediation. come on, i want the fight to happen coz right now I wanna see Pac smash the head of mayweather more than anything else. but Pac has pride and he doesnt want to be dictated just like that
Team Pac looks so stupid/shady if they don't call Floyd on that.
Floyd PUBLICLY offered 14 days. If Team Pac accepted, Floyd would HAVE to accept or be utterly crucified by the boxing public. Going public like that binds you to your word.
Arum bitching about Floyd only talking about this offer now and not during the mediation....WHO CARES? If Floyd publicly offers it, you publicly accept, and you put it on Floyd.
The fact that they're not doing this is really discouraging.
The 14 day compromise wasn't even discussed in mediation period or before it as Floyd said earlier. The guy is puzzle that only him can answer. :nonono:
if pac accepted this i think floyd will have another ridiculous demand.believe me, floyd does not want to get in the ring with packy
LOL.....after all the excuses that has come from the Pac camp you have the gall to say this. You just called yourself a Pac groupie.
lol its incredible to see how some of your minds work
u see him tryin to get this fight done and think
ok whata pussy hes lyin and is just talkin blah blah i hope arum n pac take him up on it
when theyve done nothin to budge on the issue of random testin
all theyve "tryed" or "negotiated" is to not do the testin
personaly i didnt nor do i really whole heartidly think pac is on anything
but his recent behavior and handling of this issue is what makes me wonder
why not take the test
floyd wanted testin all the way up to the fight
they wanted 30
no fight done
now hes offeren 14 days
just take the test already