Can Someone Please Explain To Team Pacquiao What a RANDOM Blood Test Is?

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24547 Pacquiao and his team compromised while Mayweather didnt. PEDS, EPO, HGH can be detected in urine using the new technology as USADA said, read the article you floyd stans keep ducking :peeright: Please don't mislead the people who actually care about the facts: * Technology for an HGH urine test MAY exist, but it has yet to be researched, approved and validated for use by the WADA (World Anti-Doping Agency), the organization under which the USADA works. * Current, available, testing can only detect HGH taken within the previous 24 to 48 hours of the test. 24 days notice might as well be 300 days notice. * Nobody knows what went down in mediation...only Arum is breaking the gag order. A half-truth is more dangerous than a flat-out lie.

have you done EPO? Have you done blood doping? If blood doping was ineffective, why do the cyclists do it? Doctors were not involved in mediation. http://steroidpinoy.com/ The article this morning says it all Doctors and judges were to agree about the 24 days proposal by manny. That website doesnt even work.

Lost in the shuffle is the fact that while a random blood test cannot be performed three and a half weeks before a fight, based on the proposed agreement that the Pacquiao Camp agreed to, a random blood test could be conducted anywhere from the press conference to the twenty four day cutoff date, that's around a five week window. Here's Victor Conte's prescription to Dwain Chambers on how to beat the IAAF's testing procedures. Dear Dwain, Per your request, this letter is to confirm I am willing to assist you in providing UK Sport and others with information that will help them to improve the effectiveness of their anti-doping programs. The specific details regarding how you were able to circumvent the British and IAAF anti-doping tests for an extended period of time are provided below. Your performance enhancing drug program included the following seven prohibited substances: THG, testosterone/epitestosterone cream, EPO (Procrit), HGH (Serostim), insulin (Humalog), modafinil (Provigil) and liothryonine, which is a synthetic form of the T3 thyroid hormone (Cytomel). Read more... THG is a previously undetectable designer steroid nicknamed "the clear." It was primarily used in the off season and was taken two days per week, typically on Mondays and Wednesdays. Generally, these were the two most intense weight-training days of the week. The purpose was to accelerate healing and tissue repair. Thirty units (IU) of the liquid was placed under the tongue during the morning time-frame. THG was used in cycles of "three weeks on and one week off." Testosterone/epitestosterone cream was also primarily used during the off season. It was rubbed into the skin on the front of the forearm two days per week, typically Tuesdays and Thursdays. The dosage was ½ gram which contained 50mg of testosterone and 2.5mg of epitestosterone (20 to 1 ratio). The purpose was to offset the suppression of endogenous testosterone caused by the use of the THG and to accelerate recovery. The testosterone/epitestosterone cream was also used in cycles of three weeks on and one week off. EPO was used three days per week during the "corrective phase", which is the first two weeks of a cycle. Typically, it was on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. It was only used once per week during the "maintenance phase" thereafter, typically this was every Wednesday. The dosage was 4,000 IU per injection. The purpose was to increase the red blood cell count and enhance oxygen uptake and utilization. This substance provides a big advantage to sprinters because it enables them to do more track repetitions and obtain a much deeper training load during the off season. EPO becomes undetectable about 72 hours after subcutaneous injection (stomach) and only 24 hours after intravenous injection. HGH was used three nights per week, typically on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. Each injection would contain 4.5 units of growth hormone. Once again, this substance was used primarily during the off season to help with recovery from very strenuous weight training sessions. Insulin was used after strenuous weight training sessions during the off season. Three units of Humalog (fast-acting insulin) were injected immediately after the workout sessions together with a powdered drink that contained 30 grams of dextrose, 30 grams of whey protein isolates and 3 grams of creatine. The purpose was to quickly replenish glycogen, resynthesize ATP and promote protein synthesis and muscle growth. Insulin acts as a "shuttle system" in the transport of glucose and branch chain amino acids. There is no test available for insulin at this time. Modafinil was used as a "wakefulness promoting" agent before competitions. The purpose was to decrease fatigue and enhance mental alertness and reaction time. A 200mg tablet was consumed one hour before competition. Liothryonine was used help accelerate the basic metabolic rate before competitions. The purpose was to reduce sluggishness and increase quickness. Two 25mg tablets were taken one hour before competition. There is no test available for liothryonine at this time. In general terms, explosive strength athletes, such as sprinters, use anabolic steroids, growth hormone, insulin and EPO during the off season. They use these drugs in conjunction with an intense weight training program, which helps to develop a strength base that will serve them throughout the competitive season. Speed work is done just prior to the start of the competitive season. ...I certainly have more information that I would like the opportunity to provide to you and UK Sport, but I will leave that for another time. Hopefully, this information will be helpful and I am available to assist you further upon request. Yours sincerely, Victor Conte There's more at: news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/athletics/7403158.stm It is interesting how often the word cycle appears in that statement. What are the chances that PED's would be detected from a sample taken from week 9 to week 4 if Manny were cycling? If Manny were not cycling, then why take PED's at all? Victor Conte is also of the opinion that neither Floyd nor Manny would be on Steroids or HGH, there is an interview on Maxboxing to that effect, he believes that the most likely PED a welterweight boxer would use is EPO, and it's known that EPO is detectable in urine samples. That's been the standard testing protocol in use since 2000, both the USADA and the Tour de France use urine testing, here's Don Caitlin defending it in 2006: Blood, 1 September 2006, Vol. 108, No. 5, pp. 1778. To the editor: False-positive Epo test concerns unfounded The brief report by Beullens et al is misleading regarding the urine test that the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) uses to detect recombinant human erythropoietin (rhEpo). The WADA-recommended test is based on immunoelectorphoresis and double blotting (IEF/DB), and was developed by Lasne and de Ceaurriz in 2000. Our WADA-accredited laboratory has performed the IEF/DB test for rhEpo on more than 6800 urine samples, including more than 2600 doping control samples from athletes. Of the latter, we have reported 9 positive cases for rhEpo: 3 of these have publicly confessed to using rhEpo, 3 have accepted penalties, the physician of a seventh has been indicted for distribution of rhEpo, and 2 maintained their innocence but lost on appeal. We take issue with Beullens's use of the term "false positive" because, as the authors emphasize, the compound they are discussing is not rhEpo. If the compound detected can be identified as not rhEpo, then it cannot cause a false positive. This term sensationalizes an otherwise interesting case report that could in due course contribute to the body of science. The criteria used by the WADA laboratories are well known and readily available.3 Beullens et al do not state the criteria they used to make the "false-positive" claim. Using the WADA criteria, the "false-positive" electropherogram1(Fig1A) is clearly negative. Moreover, they do not include a negative or a positive urine quality-control sample. Forensic testing results are normally accompanied by a comprehensive documentation package that supports the conclusion. A report such as this that raises a profound issue (false accusations against an athlete) at a minimum requires far more documentation. Don Catlin, Gary Green, Michael Sekera, Paul Scott, and Borislav Starcevic More at bloodjournal.hematologylibrary.org/cgi/content/long/108/5/1778 Manny already agreed to unlimited, random urine samples. Furthermore, new testing procedures for urine samples are being developed all the time. From the 2008 edition of the International Journal of Sports Medicine: Erythropoietin (EPO) promotes the production of red blood cells, the key factor in the regulation of the oxygen transport, and has been abused by athletes for performance enhancement in endurance sports. Current methods to detect EPO misuse are based on isoelectric focussing (IEF), double blotting, and chemiluminescence detection. A new approach utilizing SDS-PAGE mobilities of target analytes is presented. Employing two internal standards (novel erythropoiesis stimulating protein and recombinant rat EPO), the assay provides a tool which allows the calculation of relative mobility values for endogenous urinary EPO and recombinant epoetins (e.g., Dynepo™) and, thus, the distinction of these analytes in doping control samples. A reference group of 53 healthy volunteers and samples originating from a Dynepo™ (epoetin delta) excretion study conducted with a single person were analyzed and led to a significant discrimination of endogenous urinary and recombinant EPO. A clear differentiation was accomplished over a period of four days post-administration of a single injection of 50 IU/kg body weight. Hence, the method may be useful as a screening procedure in doping control or as complementary confirmation tool to the established IEF assay. thieme-connect.de/DOI/DOI?10.1055/s-2007-989369 These tests can be applied retroactively, cyclists have been busted using urine samples more than a year old.

Can urine tests detect blood spinning or blood doping? EPO is better than blood doping... Doctors in the mediation agreed to the 24 days Pac proposed..

Mayweather is willing to take random testing. Pac's refusal just confirms what is going on. that confirms nothing. theres a rumour that floyd has aids does his refusal to take tests make him H.I.V positive? what pac offered is still tougher than any current testing yet floyd bailed out.

why should pac be forced to take random tests?

What kind of compromise is that, idiot??? He's said all along he would take a blood test 30 days before the fight and one after. OF COURSE HE'S GOING TO TAKE A BLOOD TEST, you ****king Moron. And you think you just made a point. There's no doubt you are the little girl in that avatar now.:owned: You're a jackass. Blood test is not required by the Nevada commission you dumb fvck, therefore by Manny agreeing to a blood test, Manny compromised. The standard test is and always have been urine test only, that Floyd himself have been doing througout his whole career and have depended on it, believed in it, and relied on it. Man you're fvcking stupid.

You dumbass Flomos that don't understand that Manny does not want random blood testing and he didn't have to do any blood test at all in the first place. First of all, blood test is not required by the Nevada commission, only urine. Floyd demanded a blood test, Manny compromised and said he would do a blood test. Floyd wants random, Manny compromised and said he'll do a blood test before the press conference, 30 days before the fight, and one right after the fight. Manny again compromised and made it 24 days before the fight due to the fact that he did a blood test 24 days before the Hatton fight that Floyd's camp brought up. So who doesn't get it now. Dont think they understand english very much. Funny how you edited your post. You mentioned about lack of education, how ironic that both Mayweather Sr. and Jr. is lacking education and you have the nerve to insult Filipinos lacking education.

No it isn't. How about, No cut off date? Sure thing, Would it be blood or urine? Urine test can now detect HGH, EPO and PED's according to USADA..

Random without cut off date means that blood testing can also be done at any round of the fight. There should be a cut off date.

they dont get it...and its sad They do get it! They just dont care. :nonono:

24 days before the fight and one after the fight ends thats not compromise to you? No it isn't. How about, No cut off date?

they dont get it...and its sad I think you're mixing up "not getting it" and "not wanting to believe/admit it"

he agreed to random blood tests. The issue is when the cut off date is. god you people are insanely intelligent around here! And this sounds like Random to you?? Wow

What kind of compromise is that, idiot??? He's said all along he would take a blood test 30 days before the fight and one after. OF COURSE HE'S GOING TO TAKE A BLOOD TEST, you ****king Moron. And you think you just made a point. There's no doubt you are the little girl in that avatar now.:owned: 24 days before the fight and one after the fight ends thats not compromise to you?

Your dumbass obviously can't read and don't have any comprehension skills just like the other two dumbass that responded to my post in a negative way. I'm responding to the part where the TS said "no compromise on this" in regards to Floyd not compromising with the random blood test. I'm simply saying that Manny had already compromised by agreeing to a blood test, therefore Floyd should compromise, get it now you stupid fvck. What kind of compromise is that, idiot??? He's said all along he would take a blood test 30 days before the fight and one after. OF COURSE HE'S GOING TO TAKE A BLOOD TEST, you ****king Moron. And you think you just made a point. There's no doubt you are the little girl in that avatar now.:owned:

the flomos congregation here :lol1:

...you don't get to choose when to take a random blood test...It's either random or its not...no compromise on this... Dont think they understand english very much.

First of all, GBP didn't agree to anything. You believing Arum tells us how stupid and biased you are. Have you ever seen the setup for a mediation? Who were the parties in the mediation? CAN BLOOD DOPING AND BLOOD SPINNING BE DETECTED IN URINE? 'I need to know when you will NOT test me. I need almost a month". http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24547 Pacquiao and his team compromised while Mayweather didnt. PEDS, EPO, HGH can be detected in urine using the new technology as USADA said, read the article you floyd stans keep ducking :peeright:

"But I won't take them after 24 days before the fight" If you don't see the irony in that statement, you have no idea what you're talking about, fella. they dont get it...and its sad