Just agree to take the random tests but set a date that the last test before the fight can not be any later than 14 days before the fight? Not 24 days that leaves too many days to bring up suspicion. Then set a clause for Floyd in the contract where if Manny comes out clean regardless if he wins the fight or loses Floyd has to pay him $5 mill. Now if Floyd won't agree to that then we know why Floyd is demanding these tests.
Either manny is a dirty fighter or Floyd is scared to lose that 0
This would settle it all
I personally beleive that Manny is dirty because if he weren't he and his camp would make a proposal like this to flip the script but it looks like they have something to hide.
Just agree to take the random tests but set a date that the last test before the fight can not be any later than 14 days before the fight? Not 24 days that leaves too many days to bring up suspicion. Then set a clause for Floyd in the contract where if Manny comes out clean regardless if he wins the fight or loses Floyd has to pay him $5 mill. Now if Floyd won't agree to that then we know why Floyd is demanding these tests.
Either manny is a dirty fighter or Floyd is scared to lose that 0
This would settle it all
I personally beleive that Manny is dirty because if he weren't he and his camp would make a proposal like this to flip the script but it looks like they have something to hide.
Why doesn't Floyd just agree to the standard testing rule? Is he scared of Manny?
Al Haymon, Golden Boy and Richard Schaefer all agreed on the 24 cut off date and told mayweather to accept it and Floyd turned it down. The bottom line is FLOYD turned down what everyone agreed on.
^^^^ this ^^^^
its obvious to everybut except flomos that floyd is a bitch and is ducking the fight.
I think you guys are all missing my point
My point is that if manny agrees to the 14 days before the fight cut off and stipulates at least $1mill for testing clean win lose or draw and Floys still doesnt agree then that will settle the whole he said she said
to me it would be obvious that Floyd doesnt want the fight
at this point manny looks guilty
Again...that will settle it to YOU.Manny or Floyd has nothing to prove to YOU.Many people have already come to their conclusions.,but It is what it is.Manny is willing to pee anytime they want and according oto USADA that is enough to detect HGH and EPO.and 24 days before is the blood testing and right after the fight.If YOU think that's not enough for either fighters, that's on YOU.
I think you guys are all missing my point
My point is that if manny agrees to the 14 days before the fight cut off and stipulates at least $1mill for testing clean win lose or draw and Floys still doesnt agree then that will settle the whole he said she said
to me it would be obvious that Floyd doesnt want the fight
at this point manny looks guilty
hahaha...its funny how Floyds fans reads everything and rebutts what others have to say but completely ignores that thread or article.
IM not a floyd fan tool
Im a boxing fan
What is wrong with a week before the fight? Manny has tattoos done about a week before fights (so don't give that rubbish about him being scared of needles), and he cannot possibly actually be weakened by losing a tablespoon of blood (so that cannot be the reason) for more than a couple of minutes at most, forget 2 days. Hence, blood testing up to 2 days before the fight should be allowed. But 5 days should be a cut-off.
Nonetheless, 12 or fewer days would work by my estimation. That way, Manny will only be able to use the HGH once (right after the test), and even then, taking it that close to the fight is risking the drug showing up in the post-fight testing.
He is certainly on drugs. Until and unless Pacquiao comes out clean in such drug tests, or at least provides a reason that he cannot do the tests 2 days before the fight, he should be considered guilty.
so everyone in boxing thats never taken anytype of blood test is guilty to you. what pac proposed is a whole lot tougher than any current type of testing yet floyd bailed out. pac has been innocent throughout his career and is willing to take tests, how does that make him guilty to you.
You're P4P number one, a challenger out of the blue asks you to give him your sperm samples, would you agree? When you have other fights in the horizon?
Man if you really have that much rep power I really dont know how with posts like that
Its Floyd Mayweather Jr not Yuri Foreman
its arguably the best P4P fighter asking for this
he has the right if he feels he is dirty
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345793
hahaha...its funny how Floyds fans reads everything and rebutts what others have to say but completely ignores that thread or article.
These tests are BS...what basis does Floyd have of accusing Pac of using PEDs?
Would Floyd take AIDs test if PAc requested it?
Man you are ignorant
you should be baNNED for stupidity
What is wrong with a week before the fight? Manny has tattoos done about a week before fights (so don't give that rubbish about him being scared of needles), and he cannot possibly actually be weakened by losing a tablespoon of blood (so that cannot be the reason) for more than a couple of minutes at most, forget 2 days. Hence, blood testing up to 2 days before the fight should be allowed. But 5 days should be a cut-off.
Nonetheless, 12 or fewer days would work by my estimation. That way, Manny will only be able to use the HGH once (right after the test), and even then, taking it that close to the fight is risking the drug showing up in the post-fight testing.
He is certainly on drugs. Until and unless Pacquiao comes out clean in such drug tests, or at least provides a reason that he cannot do the tests 2 days before the fight, he should be considered guilty.
Ok nats what part of 14 days do you not understand
its closer to the fight and I am pretty sure that Floyd would agree to that now that would leave manny to agree
we are not talking testing the day of or the day before not even the week of but two weeks before
then if Floyd doesnt agree to that then that leaves him suspect
I think that makes a diff
Yes 14 is close to the fight...TO YOU.who's to say another person isn't going to say why not 7 days. and so on and so forth.and i doubt floyd is willing to budge.fact is...one side is willing to compromise and the other is not.and USADA has already stated blood tests aren't required for testing for HGH
Just agree to take the random tests but set a date that the last test before the fight can not be any later than 14 days before the fight? Not 24 days that leaves too many days to bring up suspicion. Then set a clause for Floyd in the contract where if Manny comes out clean regardless if he wins the fight or loses Floyd has to pay him $5 mill. Now if Floyd won't agree to that then we know why Floyd is demanding these tests.
Either manny is a dirty fighter or Floyd is scared to lose that 0
This would settle it all
I personally beleive that Manny is dirty because if he weren't he and his camp would make a proposal like this to flip the script but it looks like they have something to hide.
They got nothing to hide. Its that Pacquaio actually has pride in his self and is very superstitious. He lost against Morrales when he had a blood test right before his fight.
Don't forget pacquaio wants to win, and not give floyd any mental advantage. People see 40 millions dollars and see it walking away from. But fail to see pass the money and forgot all about honor. Actually pacquaio is hurting floyd more because floyd is the one who has money problems and needs this fight while pacquaio at least handled his money alot better.
And also no Blood test has caught anybody with HGH, PEDS. All the major athletes that has been caught were from urine(rashard lewis, shawn merriman) or from confession(arod, jason giambi, shane mosley)
Al Haymon, Golden Boy and Richard Schaefer all agreed on the 24 cut off date and told mayweather to accept it and Floyd turned it down. The bottom line is FLOYD turned down what everyone agreed on.
Ok nats what part of 14 days do you not understand
its closer to the fight and I am pretty sure that Floyd would agree to that now that would leave manny to agree
we are not talking testing the day of or the day before not even the week of but two weeks before
then if Floyd doesnt agree to that then that leaves him suspect
I think that makes a diff
Al Haymon, Golden Boy and Richard Schaefer all agreed on the 24 cut off date and told mayweather to accept it and Floyd turned it down. The bottom line is FLOYD turned down what everyone agreed on.
Not only that, the HEAD of the USADA said blood test are NOT needed to detect HGH or other PEDs and that a urinalysis is sufficient. But Floyd aint hearing it.