by Kevin Riley Contributor
The biggest fight in the history of boxing is in danger of not happening because Floyd Mayweather Jr. wants his opponent Manny Pacquiao to agree to random Olympic-style blood tests.
The only problem is that these random blood tests have never—yes that's right—never found Human Growth Hormone in any Olympic athlete that has ever been tested.
Interesting, huh?
Mayweather somehow believes that if his opponent Pacquiao who has never failed a drug test, refuses to take a test that has never caught anyone, then this fight can't happen.
How does this make sense? It doesn't. No wait, maybe Mayweather knows something the rest of us don't...no wait, maybe Mayweather is just trying to avoid the best fighter he has ever met.
But hold on, it gets even better.
Mayweather's camp has somehow wrangled the alliance of Travis Tygart, CEO of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, to try and spin this whole charade of events in their favor.
Tygart has told Yahoo Sports! that Pacquiao's resistance to submit to the blood tests "would provide a huge loophole for a cheater to step through and get away with cheating.”
Please explain yourself Mr. Tygart, how can a test that's never caught anybody possibly provide a "loophole" for a cheater to step through?
It seems like the test itself is a loophole.
And if you don't think this sequence of events can get even more interesting, it can.
Listen to this.
USADA announced last year that they were funding a company that has developed a test to detect HGH in urine. And Pacquiao, as everyone knows, has agreed to submit to as many random urine tests as the Mayweather camp would like.
Tygart even told USA Today last year that the developers, Ceres Nanosciences, "have developed an outstanding technology. And we're looking forward to helping them develop it further so it can have a practical use in anti-doping efforts."
Yesterday, Ceres Nanosciences launched the first release of that new technology, NanotrapTM ESP Particles.
These particles are designed to improve complex biofluid sample processing allowing for the detection of low-abundance proteins that would not otherwise be detected and also uses existing medical equipment.
What this means, simply, is that HGH use is now detectable through testing of urine samples and the breakthrough technology is officially ready to "Rock-and-Roll."
Now we'll find out if Mayweather is ready to do the same.
Pacquiao certainly is.*
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/321178-olympic-tests-have-never-detected-hgh-in-an-athlete-usada-backs-urine
thank you. URINE isnt enough. blood needs to be tested and RANDOMly...two things manny doesnt want.
Two things Manny have agreed on. The cut off date was the issue. smh.
From WADA itself.
http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Resources...EPO-Detection/
Questions & Answers on EPO Detection
What is EPO?
Erythropoietin (EPO) is a peptide hormone that is produced naturally by the human body. EPO is released from the kidneys and acts on the bone marrow to stimulate red blood cell production.
An increase in red blood cells improves the amount of oxygen that the blood can carry to the body’s muscles.
What are the side-effects of EPO misuse?
While proper use of EPO has an enormous therapeutic benefit in the treatment of anaemia related to kidney disease, its misuse can lead to serious health risks for athletes who use this substance simply to gain a competitive edge. It is well known that EPO, by thickening the blood, leads to an increased risk of several deadly diseases, such as heart disease, stroke, and cerebral or pulmonary embolism. The misuse of recombinant human EPO may also lead to autoimmune diseases with serious health consequences.
When was EPO banned as a performance enhancing substance?
EPO has been banned since the early 1990s.
When was a test to detect EPO implemented?
A test for EPO was introduced at the 2000 Summer Olympic Games in Sydney (Australia). The test, validated by the International Olympic Committee (IOC), was based on the blood and urine matrix. A blood screening was performed first, and a urine test was then used to confirm possible use of EPO.
In June 2003, WADA’s Executive Committee accepted the results of an independent report stating that urine tests alone can be used to detect the presence of recombinant EPO. This report, requested by WADA’s stakeholders and commissioned by the Agency to evaluate the validity of urinary and blood tests for detecting the presence of recombinant EPO, concluded that urinary testing is the only scientifically validated method for direct detection of recombinant EPO. This report also recommended that urine testing be used in conjunction with blood screening for a variety of reasons, including the cost savings of performing blood screening prior to testing urine. Some international sports federations still use both urine and blood matrix for the detection of EPO. Recently, the urine test was adapted to blood to perform detection of some new erythropoiesis stimulating agents.
Is the EPO detection method reliable?
The detection method for EPO is valid and reliable.
The method has undergone an extensive scientific validation process and has been used successfully for many years by accredited anti-doping laboratories around the world. It is a well-established procedure widely accepted by the scientific community, as demonstrated by publication in a number of international scientific journals.
Further, in all its decisions relating to EPO, the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) has supported the validity of the EPO detection method. And, at a meeting in September 2005, the WADA Laboratory Committee reiterated its support of the method when properly applied.
How has the EPO detection method evolved since its introduction in 2000?
The conservative approach used in the initial phase of implementation of the method allowed a large number of EPO abusers to escape detection.
Consistent with the advancing science in anti-doping, work is done on an ongoing basis on all detection methods to refine their sensitivity and the interpretation of results. In the case of EPO, based on expert consensus, new interpretation criteria are introduced as science advances for a more discriminant reading of EPO results.
What is WADA doing in relation to new types of EPO?
WADA is very much aware of the development of new EPOs and biosimilar EPOs in an expanding market. A number of these new EPOs and biosimilar EPOs are well known and can be detected through current tests.
In addition to constantly refining the existing detection method for EPO and trying to anticipate doping trends, including by closely cooperating with pharmaceutical companies at very early stages of the development of molecules or substances, WADA is currently considering detection methods for EPO that will supplement the existing one and will maximize chances of detecting recombinant EPOs in athletes’ samples. It is important to remember that samples can be stored and later re-analysed as science advances. (The statute of limitations set forth in the World Anti-Doping Code is 8 years.)
In order to further improve detection of abnormal blood profiles, WADA is leading the development of a strategy against doping in sport called the "Athlete Passport", which is based on the longitudinal follow-up of an athlete's biological variables. The objective of this strategy, which will be added to other anti-doping strategies including "traditional" testing, is to detect abnormal variations of determined biological variables in order to better target testing and/or sanction those found with abnormal variations.
and now they are diverting the issue to arum LOLs... i do agree that the 9% flomos left are brain dead and idiots :D i can see them somewhere in the forum :boxing:
one more time 'tard, HGH isnt the concern. Conte said thats not what one would want to use for enhanced performance. EPO is probably what would be in use. so again, its not about HGHs its about other PED's such as EPO that are better detected by blood than urine
and its about test being RANDOM as well, which pac doesnt want
just dont think you get it
EPO is detectable by urine tests
NOTE: I DO NOT THINK MANNY"S ON PED's - Just suspicious...Sorry when you aren't guilty...Just like some boxers in the past who've been accused - Holyfield and A.Abraham, you take the TEST's and whoop that ass!!!
Back to my eply...
Why does everyone keep bringing up HGH??? Like this is the only PED available!!!
IS HGH THE ONLY PED??? Let me answer this for everyone...The answer is HELL NO!!!
PEEP...This is from the mouth of the former Chairman of the Nevada State Athletic Commission and Chief Ringside Physician - MARGAROT GOODMAN...If you read this and still disagree, you are irrational and nothing will change your mind even if you saw PAC with a Syringe in his arm and words PED's scribbled on the label. She's talking about HGH and EPO...
...athletes have gone way beyond these types of substances that are better detected in the blood. There is also more credibility and finality to blood testing.
...So, this isn't about HGH...it's about every and all illegal PED...simple
if PEDS have improved a lot then I expect the tests of USADA to improve a lot as well coz last year it said they can detect PEDS just by urine test. unfortunately, its technolgy went backward coz the CEO just stated it requires blood and urine now. just a sad way to waste lots of money for USADA
come on now mate,floyd is scared of the tests he wants pac to take?floyd isnt the one who wants a cut off period of 24 days thats manny if i read correctly
well maybe thats the reason why floyd did not accept the compromise. maybe, he only made that demand expecting pac to not accept it. unfortunately for floyd, pac made a compromise so still he did accept it coz in the first place he doesnt want to take such test. Floyd may be the one using the PEDS
come on now mate,floyd is scared of the tests he wants pac to take?floyd isnt the one who wants a cut off period of 24 days thats manny if i read correctly
Let's be clear here...Who's side are you?
are you on Manny or Floyd???
i can smell so much floydie in you...
:haha:
NOTE: I DO NOT THINK MANNY"S ON PED's - Just suspicious...Sorry when you aren't guilty...Just like some boxers in the past who've been accused - Holyfield and A.Abraham, you take the TEST's and whoop that ass!!!
Back to my eply...
Why does everyone keep bringing up HGH??? Like this is the only PED available!!!
IS HGH THE ONLY PED??? Let me answer this for everyone...The answer is HELL NO!!!
PEEP...This is from the mouth of the former Chairman of the Nevada State Athletic Commission and Chief Ringside Physician - MARGAROT GOODMAN...If you read this and still disagree, you are irrational and nothing will change your mind even if you saw PAC with a Syringe in his arm and words PED's scribbled on the label. She's talking about HGH and EPO...
...athletes have gone way beyond these types of substances that are better detected in the blood. There is also more credibility and finality to blood testing.
...So, this isn't about HGH...it's about every and all illegal PED...simple
or as I posted on the other thread, when Pac calls Mayweather's bluff, he shrinks. Maybe, its floyd who is using PEDS and doesnt want to get caught. Pac made teh compromise but Mayweather still stood on his unreasonable stand? it's floyd who is afraid of the tests
come on now mate,floyd is scared of the tests he wants pac to take?floyd isnt the one who wants a cut off period of 24 days thats manny if i read correctly
thats one way of looking at it or quiet easily manny didnt have to have a 24 day cut of period and the fight would have been signed,mayweather agreed to all of mannys demands why cant manny do the same and take the test with no cut of period,to make the fight,i know hes never been caught using any sort of peds but hes agreed to random test with a cut off period,now all he has to do is have no cut off period, simply
or as I posted on the other thread, when Pac calls Mayweather's bluff, he shrinks. Maybe, its floyd who is using PEDS and doesnt want to get caught. Pac made teh compromise but Mayweather still stood on his unreasonable stand? it's floyd who is afraid of the tests
If NASC is so great how come they never caught Mosley?And how do you know it was Al Haymon who came upwith the idea for Pac testing
?It could have been senior or Leonard Ellerbe`s idea.
you are so outdated ..... the test now is updated... read the articles :D
ok thanks for clearing that up. but the topic says that URINE TESTS CAN DETECT PED. so why is it that FLoyd insist on having blood testing? Pac already agreed on blood test 24 days before the fight? I guess we can only summarize this into one word "FLOYDING"
thats one way of looking at it or quiet easily manny didnt have to have a 24 day cut of period and the fight would have been signed,mayweather agreed to all of mannys demands why cant manny do the same and take the test with no cut of period,to make the fight,i know hes never been caught using any sort of peds but hes agreed to random test with a cut off period,now all he has to do is have no cut off period, simply
ok lets take al haymon out of this because i just read this
A reliable source has advised BoxingScene.com that adviser/manager Al Haymon is disputing reports that he tried to convince Floyd Mayweather Jr. to accept Manny Pacquiao's proposal for a 24-day cut-off on random drug testing. Mayweather-Pacquiao died on Wednesday when Floyd continued to demand random blood tests within 30-days of the fight date. Pacquiao's proposal for a 24-day cut-off was rejected by Mayweather. Several reports have placed the full blame on Mayweather, but I've been told that Haymon supported his decision to reject Pacquiao's proposal.
and soon as the rest of the bollocks clears up and team mayweather actually makes a statement i dont think you or anybody else should jump to conclusions
ok thanks for clearing that up. but the topic says that URINE TESTS CAN DETECT PED. so why is it that FLoyd insist on having blood testing? Pac already agreed on blood test 24 days before the fight? I guess we can only summarize this into one word "FLOYDING"