Let me get straight. Manny can't fight Cotto at 147 but he can go up 7 pounds to fight Yuri Foreman. That sounds like a bunch of bullshit! I wonder if they are going to fight at the official weight or try some catchweight nonsense.
Good point
that is how much floyd wants the fight yet Manny wont give in to random blood test
hhhmmmmmm
Floyd is such a COWARD asking for all this random urine/blood test. If he believed he can beat Manny then do it, playing field leveled or not! And for f*cks sake Pac agreed to be tested a month prior to fight night and RIGHT AFTER the bout! How the f*ck can you explain your PED disappearing right after the final bell?!
*face palm*
hold on though..how did floyd know that pac would not agree to take the tests??? Because of some fight he lost years ago to morales fair and square...please...
Am not saying pac i rubbish but you got to admit that it is dodgy for him not taking the test..am a floyd fan but when he does sh*t i admit it cause am real..i aint going to back him up out of the ring if he does rubbish..am just interested in what he does inside and judge him by that...everyone loved tyson but didnt he sy he would eat someones kids????now thats fuc*ed up but people love him because of his ring genius not his filthy mouth...my point being,most you pac fans are blinded by the hate for mayweather that you dont appreciate his skills inside the aquared circle...anyway,i can see am prob fighting a losing battle against most of you blinded people....ps-imagine what the pac fans would want to do to floyd if he ever said what tyson said about eating someones kids....you pac fans would petition to get floyd stoned!!!!!!lmao...its funny but very sad...guys get a life
oh i didnt question FMJs skills inside the ring ,did u find sumthing from my posts that his skills suck u selfrighteous dude?? i dont care if FMJ is a bad person inside...im just attacking his other skill of ducking legit opponents and here we go, he will do another trick, and i knew it from the start hes gonna do something like that
Cotto was a difficult and powerful opponent who was ranked very highly P4P, while Pacquiao was coming up heavily in weight anyway. To fight at 147 was not necessary - Cotto was fine at that weight and around that weight, and was his usual dangerous self. Yuri Foreman, however, will not be dangerous to Pacquiao at any weight, so it makes no difference.
When will people start really examining Pacquiao? Once he beats the Klitschko's?
Nonetheless, Pacquiao's achievements have been freakish and really are not realistic without drugs. Hence, Mayweather had the right to request Olympic-style blood testing. Since there is no problem with it, Pacquiao should have just agreed.
Why are they freskish may I ask?
Give me some insight into your thinking.
There is also an other difference:
Yuri never gained more than 6lb after the weight in, in his last fast he came 160 probably the same weight Cotto came to fight Pac
Cotto was a difficult and powerful opponent who was ranked very highly P4P, while Pacquiao was coming up heavily in weight anyway. To fight at 147 was not necessary - Cotto was fine at that weight and around that weight, and was his usual dangerous self. Yuri Foreman, however, will not be dangerous to Pacquiao at any weight, so it makes no difference.
When will people start really examining Pacquiao? Once he beats the Klitschko's?
Ring and gloves are normal part of negotiating.
Olympic style testing is not.
Pac wanted it at 147, which IMO is better for Floyd than 154.
Glove is 8 ounces, which you can have at 147.
Nonetheless, Pacquiao's achievements have been freakish and really are not realistic without drugs. Hence, Mayweather had the right to request Olympic-style blood testing. Since there is no problem with it, Pacquiao should have just agreed.
Allready MAnny has 8 belts in 8 different weight..They always forget to talk about the catchweight division. Cotto had Arum guide him into hell. First Margacheato and now *Pacquiao
manny ate 7,000 calories a day to help him keep the weight of a welter. How many calories does he have to eat for him to get to light middleweight or roids?
Ariza is preparing a new special blend of substances for Manny.
To be honest, I think the ones complaining are just jealous Floyd fans who realize this is another way for Pacquiao to take yet another dump on Floyd's accomplishments. That is what is pissing them off. Not the opponent.
To be honest, there is nothing to be Jealous about a paper champ like Manny.
because he didn't want to?
pac has negotiating power.
ask floyd. floyd had to give in to all of his demands too. :)
Good point
that is how much floyd wants the fight yet Manny wont give in to random blood test
hhhmmmmmm
how can roy jones fight john ruiz at heavyweight and not lennow lewis?
it's called different levels of competition.
there's a lot of guys i think floyd can beat at 168. i wouldn't put him up against abraham at 168 though.
I been saying something similar when people complained that Pacquiao isn't taking on the biggest threats in the Jr. Middle division. I mean, how many people actually go up this far in weight and take on the biggest threat? Your Jones-Ruiz example is a good one. The fact that Roy went from middleweight all the way to heavy and took on anyone is impressive, there's no denying it. But just as I didn't expect Jones to take out Tyson, Lewis, or a Klitschko, I don't expect Pacquiao to take on the likes of Martinez or Williams. Not yet. If he beats Foreman convincingly, then maybe a a bigger threat at 154 could be considered later. For now, it would be foolish. The guy is barely even established at Welterweight.
To be honest, I think the ones complaining are just jealous Floyd fans who realize this is another way for Pacquiao to take yet another dump on Floyd's accomplishments. That is what is pissing them off. Not the opponent.
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manny ate 7,000 calories a day to help him keep the weight of a welter. How many calories does he have to eat for him to get to light middleweight or roids?
so you think foreman > cotto?
Of course not. My point is there was no need for the 145 catch-weight other than try to get some type of advantage. (No, Manny didn't need the advantage because he was more skilled but it was a little underhanded.) If I was Cotto I would feel like I got played.
That's like saying, no I can't pay you $20 only $18 then paying someone else $50.
uh.... cotto's the one who wanted the fight at 145 lbs.
Your moma must dopped you on the head one too many times. Cotto wanted the fight at 145lbs? lmao
Then i guess its also why he was reluctant to put his belt on the line at 145lbs unless the fight took place at 147lbs.
Son, you have to be P4P one of the worst posters in this place.
don't bother mate.
floyd stans.
if they have prettyboy , money , money may as their handle , don't even bother.
you're talking about a group who tried to argue the decade is 2000-2010.
they have no concept of certain things.
Pacman is a paper champ who refuses to fight his opponents at their best weight. He';s a paper champ, pactards have no concept of that.
when you pacman fans can't come up with some good argument, you always go for the flomo bs.
thank you,,they always want to diss people when they dont agree with a point..i just want to discuss boxiing...if you wanna diss or fight then make it a real thing and ask my whereabouts not be some internet thug...kmt
so stupid,some of you fans...i know its not all pac fans but its the majority..wana call us flomos but then are doing worse than us in defending manny with disses....you lil kids man!!
u flomos are like ppl who were lead to believe by ur former president that iraq has wmd......fmj knew from the start he had the steroid excuse so that he can agree to all his demands then after that just drop the bomb make it look good for making us believe he all innocent in all of this
hold on though..how did floyd know that pac would not agree to take the tests??? Because of some fight he lost years ago to morales fair and square...please...
Am not saying pac i rubbish but you got to admit that it is dodgy for him not taking the test..am a floyd fan but when he does sh*t i admit it cause am real..i aint going to back him up out of the ring if he does rubbish..am just interested in what he does inside and judge him by that...everyone loved tyson but didnt he sy he would eat someones kids????now thats fuc*ed up but people love him because of his ring genius not his filthy mouth...my point being,most you pac fans are blinded by the hate for mayweather that you dont appreciate his skills inside the aquared circle...anyway,i can see am prob fighting a losing battle against most of you blinded people....ps-imagine what the pac fans would want to do to floyd if he ever said what tyson said about eating someones kids....you pac fans would petition to get floyd stoned!!!!!!lmao...its funny but very sad...guys get a life
uh.... cotto's the one who wanted the fight at 145 lbs.
Don't be stupid. Cotto wanted the fight at 147. If the fight had to be a catchweight, 145 was the lowest he could go.
I don't think it made a difference, but don't say "Cotto wanted the fight at 145". Sure he wanted it at 145 as opposed to 143.
Let me get straight. Manny can't fight Cotto at 147 but he can go up 7 pounds to fight Yuri Foreman. That sounds like a bunch of bullshit! I wonder if they are going to fight at the official weight or try some catchweight nonsense.
so you think foreman > cotto?