Point n case: If u walk away frm the biggest fight in history, you're hidin something

So what about the "source close to the negotiations" who claimed that Pac's lawyers asked if Pac tested dirty whether it could be "kept on the downlow"? going by your logic i take it that MUST be true right? :rofl: as i said until GBP say "they felt the deal was ok" these claims about Floyd ducking Pac are FUTILE. As I previously stated, if you accept the Mayweather Camp's allegations, and the 'Dirty Test' allegations, then you should have no problem accepting Arum's, and the Las Vegas Review Journal's, claim. In the end, both meet the burden of proof you already established.

No wonder Floyd has been accused of bein gay because of gay ass flomos like you chewin up his tampons Go ask another poster to "show you their ass" you dirty "assbandit" :rofl: .

If you apply the same logic that is being applied to Pacquiao and PED's to FMJ being the one to refuse the fight... The Mayweather Camp doesn't just hint that Pac is on PED's, they actually state it and demand random blood testing, Pac won't agree, therefore he must be on something. Now, Arum, and the Las Vegas Review Journal make the claim that: Two sources claim that a compromise was agreed, and that FMJ refused it. GBP, and the Mayweather Camp, have not disputed that, therefore it must be true. If you hold that standard as acceptable to Pacquiao and PED's, you must also hold that standard to Floyd and Arum. So what about the "source close to the negotiations" who claimed that Pac's lawyers asked if Pac tested dirty whether it could be "kept on the downlow"? going by your logic i take it that MUST be true right? :rofl: as i said until GBP say "they felt the deal was ok" these claims about Floyd ducking Pac are FUTILE.

Lets see who lying.. You call Arum a liar.. cause he said Floyd is a great fighter.. He also said Floyd is a chicken shit. the Truth. Floyd is a great fighter Floyd is also a chicken shiet. GBP.. Oscar said at first.. Manny punches didnt hurt now Oscar says Manny punched as hard as Mosley and Varges. Schaffer says Mosley doesnt need extra testing or blood work to fight Zab... cause Mosley clean now We are trying to clean up boxing.. and we will start with Pacquaio... Now reading that.. How in the **** can you say Arum the bad guy in this.. Youre a ****ing tool.. by the way.. All i'm saying is you can't believe one side of the damn story without hearing from the other side, so any claims that "GBP agreed and Floyd didn't" are futile until GBP confirm Arum's claim, Arum has nothing but hate for Floyd so doesn't it register in your stupid thick skull that Arum just MIGHT by lying here? oh i forgot you're a retarded pacturd so Arum can't be lying of course :rolleyes: You're a stupid ass ladyboy...by the way... :wave:

Erm your the one who asked another man to "show you their ass"!!, IT'S QUOTED THERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE SO YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF THIS ONE!! :rofl: :wave: . No wonder Floyd has been accused of bein gay because of gay ass flomos like you chewin up his tampons

Erm i said FIND ME QUOTES FROM GBP SAYING THAT FLOYD SAID "NO" :rolleyes:, your article makes your claims look even more retarded because the comments are from Arum, you know the guy who said "Floyd is one of the greatest ever" and now says "Floyd is a coward"? :rofl: If you apply the same logic that is being applied to Pacquiao and PED's to FMJ being the one to refuse the fight... The Mayweather Camp doesn't just hint that Pac is on PED's, they actually state it and demand random blood testing, Pac won't agree, therefore he must be on something. Now, Arum, and the Las Vegas Review Journal make the claim that: Mayweather refused to accept a compromise agreement struck during Tuesday’s marathon mediation session in Santa Monica, Calif., according to an anonymous source with knowledge of those talks. Two sources claim that a compromise was agreed, and that FMJ refused it. GBP, and the Mayweather Camp, have not disputed that, therefore it must be true. When asked if the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is indeed off, Golden Boy Promotions chief executive Richard Schaefer said: ''I’m not going to confirm or deny anything. At this point, we have no comment.’’ If you hold that standard as acceptable to Pacquiao and PED's, you must also hold that standard to Floyd and Arum.

What i'm saying is Arum has a HISTORY of lying out of his ass, which is why HIS CLAIMS about Gbp telling Floyd to "take the fight" should be taken with a pinch of salt because HE'S ON THE OTHER SIDE!!, until GBP come out and say "we felt it was a good deal but Floyd didn't agree" you can't say sh/t about Floyd "ducking" anything :wave: . Lets see who lying.. You call Arum a liar.. cause he said Floyd is a great fighter.. He also said Floyd is a chicken shit. the Truth. Floyd is a great fighter Floyd is also a chicken shiet. GBP.. Oscar said at first.. Manny punches didnt hurt now Oscar says Manny punched as hard as Mosley and Varges. Schaffer says Mosley doesnt need extra testing or blood work to fight Zab... cause Mosley clean now We are trying to clean up boxing.. and we will start with Pacquaio... Now reading that.. How in the **** can you say Arum the bad guy in this.. Youre a ****ing tool.. by the way..

If Floyd truly turned down the 30 day offer he looks like the bad guy here... 30 days deff seems like more than enough time to catch someone using somethin... Manny also agreed to test right after the fight. From what the other Floyd fans are telling us, it can be sweated out or masked in a matter of hours.

WTF.. are you saying?? Arum is lying about Floyd calling a great fighter.. Fact.. Arum calling Floyd a great fighter is true Fact.. Arum calling Floyd a chicken is also true.. What i'm saying is Arum has a HISTORY of lying out of his ass, which is why HIS CLAIMS about Gbp telling Floyd to "take the fight" should be taken with a pinch of salt because HE'S ON THE OTHER SIDE!!, until GBP come out and say "we felt it was a good deal but Floyd didn't agree" you can't say sh/t about Floyd "ducking" anything :wave: .

If Floyd truly turned down the 30 day offer he looks like the bad guy here... 30 days deff seems like more than enough time to catch someone using somethin...

Erm i said FIND ME QUOTES FROM GBP SAYING THAT FLOYD SAID "NO" :rolleyes:, your article makes your claims look even more retarded because the comments are from Arum, you know the guy who said "Floyd is one of the greatest ever" and now says "Floyd is a coward"? :rofl: WTF.. are you saying?? Arum is lying about Floyd calling him a great fighter.. Fact.. Arum calling Floyd a great fighter is true Fact.. Arum calling Floyd a chicken is also true..

Stop talking about being gay you ******.. and respond to my post.. I posted a link for your retarded ass.. I just did you dumb pacturd!! :wave:

Stop talking about being gay you ******.. and respond to my post.. I posted a link for your retarded ass.. lol...:You_Rock_

Here the link bitch that Floyd walked away.. I even underlinded the part where Floyd said no.. i'm a scared bitch, I dont want to fight the Pacman. now show me proof that Pac was on Ped.. http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4803490 The much-anticipated showdown between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather, tentatively scheduled for March 13 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, has collapsed, Top Rank promoter Bob Arum told ESPN.com on Wednesday night. "The fight's off," Arum, who promotes Pacquiao, said from Las Vegas. The fight died after a last-ditch attempt at mediation between Top Rank and Golden Boy, which represents Mayweather, failed in an effort to determine the drug testing protocol. The fight died after a last-ditch attempt at mediation failed in an effort to determine the drug testing protocol. Pacquiao had agreed to move off his hard-line stance of refusing a blood test inside 30 days before the fight, but Mayweather wouldn't budge off his desire for random testing all the way until the fight, Arum said. Nor would Mayweather agree to a public apology for remarks he made accusing Pacquiao of using performance-enhancing drugs, Arum said. "I am very disappointed that we could not make this fight for the fans and I am angered because of the false accusations from Golden Boy and the Mayweather camp that I used some type of drugs, and that is why I have instructed our American lawyers to proceed with the lawsuit to clear my name," Pacquiao said in a statement. “ Manny accepted what was on the table and Mayweather rejected it. Haymon and Schaefer tired to convince Floyd all and and he wouldn't agree to it. He didn't want the fight. He never wanted the fight. I always knew the fight wouldn't happen. ” -- Top Rank chief and Manny Pacquiao promotor Bob Arum Arum said Pacquiao would move on and likely fight junior middleweight titlist Yuri Foreman on March 13 or March 20. The fight was to have been on HBO PPV, a sure blockbuster many believed would break the all-time pay-per-view record of 2.44 million buys set by Mayweather's 2007 fight with Oscar De La Hoya, who owns Golden Boy Promotions. But Arum said he had informed HBO PPV boss Mark Taffet that the fight was off. Had the fight done the monster numbers organizers expected, it would have likely generated in the neighborhood of $200 million with the fighters receiving in roughly $40 million apiece. Richard Schaefer, the CEO of Golden Boy and the point person for the company on the negotiations, did not return multiple messages. The sides had negotiated every point of the deal except for the drug testing procedures. The fighters agreed to unlimited random urine testing, but Mayweather insisted on random blood testing as well, even though the Nevada State Athletic Commission, which would regulate the fight, requires only urine testing. Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs) didn't want any blood testing but had agreed to take three blood tests: one during the week of the kickoff news conference, which would have taken place next week, one random test to be conducted no later than 30 days before the fight and a final test in his dressing room after the fight. Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) would have been subject to the same testing procedures. When they could not come to an agreement on the drug testing, they enlisted the aid of a mediator, retired judge Daniel Weinstein, who successfully mediated a series of disputes between Top Rank and Golden Boy, which represents Mayweather, in June of 2007. At the center of the problem was ownership of the promotional rights to Pacquiao, who had signed contracts with both companies before eventually pledging his loyalty to Top Rank. Under the settlement, Top Rank got Pacquiao's contract with Golden Boy retaining a small percentage. With lawyers at their side, Top Rank's Arum, company president Todd duBoef, Golden Boy's Schaefer and De La Hoya, along with Mayweather adviser Al Haymon, spent nine hours in mediation on Tuesday in Santa Monica, Calif. The sides struck a deal during the marathon session Tuesday, but it was contingent on getting the fighters to sign off, Arum said. On Wednesday, they were back in their offices -- Golden Boy in Los Angeles and Top Rank in Las Vegas -- and worked the phones with their clients while still under Weinstein's gag order not to talk to the media. Arum said Pacquiao agreed to ease his demands on the drug testing window but Mayweather wouldn't. Arum said Pacquiao agreed to shorten the window for a blood test to 24 days before the fight. In order to receive a Nevada boxing license, Pacquiao took the standard annual blood test 24 days before his May 2009 fight with Ricky Hatton. "Manny accepted what was on the table and Mayweather rejected it," Arum said. "Haymon and Schaefer tired to convince Floyd all and and he wouldn't agree to it. He didn't want the fight. He never wanted the fight. I always knew the fight wouldn't happen." The drug testing became a major issue when Floyd Mayweather Sr., the father of the fighter, made several public remarks accusing Pacquiao of using performance-enhancing drugs without a shred of proof. Mayweather Jr. later made similar remarks about him using PEDs, even though Pacquiao denies it and has never failed a drug test. "When the fight was offered, Manny accepted it with no hesitation," Pacquiao adviser Michael Koncz told ESPN.com from the Philippines, where he was with Pacquiao. "We're not surprised. We saw this coming once they started this drug bull----. It was a way for them to get out of the fight. I don't think Mayweather expected Manny to accept the challenge so quickly." The accusations led Pacquiao to file a defamation lawsuit last week in Nevada U.S. District Court against Mayweather Jr., Schaefer, Golden Boy president De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather Sr., Roger Mayweather and Mayweather Promotions. "The guys who should be most disappointed in the fight being off are Schaefer and De La Hoya because they went along with this guy and ended up with gatz and a big lawsuit," Arum said. Said Koncz: "We agreed to move the drug testing to 24 days under the supervision of the Nevada commission and Mayweather still wouldn't budge. So now what we've done is give up maybe $40 million to take a stand for Manny's principles. We will proceed with the lawsuit in an effort to clear his name and tarnished image. Even if they make a public apology it's not enough. Now they'll have to prove to a judge that Manny is on drugs, which they won't be able to do because he's not. Manny is pissed off because he feels Floyd is a chicken and because he tarnished his reputation. This is about principle. We have nothing to hide." Golden Boy also risks losing its share in Pacquiao's contract, Arum said. They also risk losing their share in Pacquiao's contract, Arum said. "There's an arbitration which calls for them to lose any percentage of Manny's promotional contract, something we asked for and had postponed, but now it will go forward," Arum said. "We did that two weeks ago before Manny filed his lawsuit. It's binding arbitration. Our request was for Golden Boy to forfeit its interest in Pacquiao's contract based on the fact that they had demeaned Pacquiao with their remarks and that it violated the agreement between Pacquiao, Top Rank and Golden Boy." Arum now plans on moving forward with Pacquiao facing Foreman, who won his 154-pound title on the Nov. 14 undercard of Pacquiao's 12th-round knockout of Miguel Cotto to win a welterweight belt. Pacquiao would move up in weight to try to win a title in his eighth division. Pacquiao already holds the record, having won titles in seven divisions. Mayweather could also still fight on another date in March, potentially against former junior welterweight titlist Paulie Malignaggi. "We're going to talk to the MGM because they're out of a fight," Arum said. Arum added that the fight could also wind up at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas or perhaps in Dallas, where Cowboys owner Jerry Jones made a strong pitch to bring Pacquiao-Mayweather to his new stadium. Dan Rafael covers boxing for ESPN.com. Erm i said FIND ME QUOTES FROM GBP SAYING THAT FLOYD SAID "NO" :rolleyes:, your article makes your claims look even more retarded because the comments are from Arum, you know the guy who said "Floyd is one of the greatest ever" and now says "Floyd is a coward"? :rofl:

Erm your the one who asked another man to "show you their ass"!!, IT'S QUOTED THERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE SO YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF THIS ONE!! :rofl: :wave: . will you show him ur ass??? now be a man and dont be a gay.. :spankme:

Erm your the one who asked another man to "show you their ass"!!, IT'S QUOTED THERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE SO YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF THIS ONE!! :rofl: :wave: . Stop talking about being gay you ******.. and respond to my post.. I posted a link for your retarded ass..

so you're admitting your gay? i knew it :lol1: Erm your the one who asked another man to "show you their ass"!!, IT'S QUOTED THERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE SO YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF THIS ONE!! :rofl: :wave: .

Here the link bitch that Floyd walked away.. I even underlinded the part where Floyd said no.. i'm a scared bitch, I dont want to fight the Pacman. now show me proof that Pac was on Ped.. http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4803490 The much-anticipated showdown between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather, tentatively scheduled for March 13 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, has collapsed, Top Rank promoter Bob Arum told ESPN.com on Wednesday night. "The fight's off," Arum, who promotes Pacquiao, said from Las Vegas. The fight died after a last-ditch attempt at mediation between Top Rank and Golden Boy, which represents Mayweather, failed in an effort to determine the drug testing protocol. The fight died after a last-ditch attempt at mediation failed in an effort to determine the drug testing protocol. Pacquiao had agreed to move off his hard-line stance of refusing a blood test inside 30 days before the fight, but Mayweather wouldn't budge off his desire for random testing all the way until the fight, Arum said. Nor would Mayweather agree to a public apology for remarks he made accusing Pacquiao of using performance-enhancing drugs, Arum said. "I am very disappointed that we could not make this fight for the fans and I am angered because of the false accusations from Golden Boy and the Mayweather camp that I used some type of drugs, and that is why I have instructed our American lawyers to proceed with the lawsuit to clear my name," Pacquiao said in a statement. “ Manny accepted what was on the table and Mayweather rejected it. Haymon and Schaefer tired to convince Floyd all and and he wouldn't agree to it. He didn't want the fight. He never wanted the fight. I always knew the fight wouldn't happen. ” -- Top Rank chief and Manny Pacquiao promotor Bob Arum Arum said Pacquiao would move on and likely fight junior middleweight titlist Yuri Foreman on March 13 or March 20. The fight was to have been on HBO PPV, a sure blockbuster many believed would break the all-time pay-per-view record of 2.44 million buys set by Mayweather's 2007 fight with Oscar De La Hoya, who owns Golden Boy Promotions. But Arum said he had informed HBO PPV boss Mark Taffet that the fight was off. Had the fight done the monster numbers organizers expected, it would have likely generated in the neighborhood of $200 million with the fighters receiving in roughly $40 million apiece. Richard Schaefer, the CEO of Golden Boy and the point person for the company on the negotiations, did not return multiple messages. The sides had negotiated every point of the deal except for the drug testing procedures. The fighters agreed to unlimited random urine testing, but Mayweather insisted on random blood testing as well, even though the Nevada State Athletic Commission, which would regulate the fight, requires only urine testing. Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs) didn't want any blood testing but had agreed to take three blood tests: one during the week of the kickoff news conference, which would have taken place next week, one random test to be conducted no later than 30 days before the fight and a final test in his dressing room after the fight. Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) would have been subject to the same testing procedures. When they could not come to an agreement on the drug testing, they enlisted the aid of a mediator, retired judge Daniel Weinstein, who successfully mediated a series of disputes between Top Rank and Golden Boy, which represents Mayweather, in June of 2007. At the center of the problem was ownership of the promotional rights to Pacquiao, who had signed contracts with both companies before eventually pledging his loyalty to Top Rank. Under the settlement, Top Rank got Pacquiao's contract with Golden Boy retaining a small percentage. With lawyers at their side, Top Rank's Arum, company president Todd duBoef, Golden Boy's Schaefer and De La Hoya, along with Mayweather adviser Al Haymon, spent nine hours in mediation on Tuesday in Santa Monica, Calif. The sides struck a deal during the marathon session Tuesday, but it was contingent on getting the fighters to sign off, Arum said. On Wednesday, they were back in their offices -- Golden Boy in Los Angeles and Top Rank in Las Vegas -- and worked the phones with their clients while still under Weinstein's gag order not to talk to the media. Arum said Pacquiao agreed to ease his demands on the drug testing window but Mayweather wouldn't. Arum said Pacquiao agreed to shorten the window for a blood test to 24 days before the fight. In order to receive a Nevada boxing license, Pacquiao took the standard annual blood test 24 days before his May 2009 fight with Ricky Hatton. "Manny accepted what was on the table and Mayweather rejected it," Arum said. "Haymon and Schaefer tired to convince Floyd all and and he wouldn't agree to it. He didn't want the fight. He never wanted the fight. I always knew the fight wouldn't happen." The drug testing became a major issue when Floyd Mayweather Sr., the father of the fighter, made several public remarks accusing Pacquiao of using performance-enhancing drugs without a shred of proof. Mayweather Jr. later made similar remarks about him using PEDs, even though Pacquiao denies it and has never failed a drug test. "When the fight was offered, Manny accepted it with no hesitation," Pacquiao adviser Michael Koncz told ESPN.com from the Philippines, where he was with Pacquiao. "We're not surprised. We saw this coming once they started this drug bull----. It was a way for them to get out of the fight. I don't think Mayweather expected Manny to accept the challenge so quickly." The accusations led Pacquiao to file a defamation lawsuit last week in Nevada U.S. District Court against Mayweather Jr., Schaefer, Golden Boy president De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather Sr., Roger Mayweather and Mayweather Promotions. "The guys who should be most disappointed in the fight being off are Schaefer and De La Hoya because they went along with this guy and ended up with gatz and a big lawsuit," Arum said. Said Koncz: "We agreed to move the drug testing to 24 days under the supervision of the Nevada commission and Mayweather still wouldn't budge. So now what we've done is give up maybe $40 million to take a stand for Manny's principles. We will proceed with the lawsuit in an effort to clear his name and tarnished image. Even if they make a public apology it's not enough. Now they'll have to prove to a judge that Manny is on drugs, which they won't be able to do because he's not. Manny is pissed off because he feels Floyd is a chicken and because he tarnished his reputation. This is about principle. We have nothing to hide." Golden Boy also risks losing its share in Pacquiao's contract, Arum said. They also risk losing their share in Pacquiao's contract, Arum said. "There's an arbitration which calls for them to lose any percentage of Manny's promotional contract, something we asked for and had postponed, but now it will go forward," Arum said. "We did that two weeks ago before Manny filed his lawsuit. It's binding arbitration. Our request was for Golden Boy to forfeit its interest in Pacquiao's contract based on the fact that they had demeaned Pacquiao with their remarks and that it violated the agreement between Pacquiao, Top Rank and Golden Boy." Arum now plans on moving forward with Pacquiao facing Foreman, who won his 154-pound title on the Nov. 14 undercard of Pacquiao's 12th-round knockout of Miguel Cotto to win a welterweight belt. Pacquiao would move up in weight to try to win a title in his eighth division. Pacquiao already holds the record, having won titles in seven divisions. Mayweather could also still fight on another date in March, potentially against former junior welterweight titlist Paulie Malignaggi. "We're going to talk to the MGM because they're out of a fight," Arum said. Arum added that the fight could also wind up at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas or perhaps in Dallas, where Cowboys owner Jerry Jones made a strong pitch to bring Pacquiao-Mayweather to his new stadium. Dan Rafael covers boxing for ESPN.com.

No it means you're a homosexual for even suggesting such a thing!! :rofl: so you mean Floyd is juicing too coz he's accusing Manny of juicing??

I take it you've missed the 1000 comments made by Paulie then? :lol1: . pac is also suing paulie in case u dont know.. lol read up lol..