solutions from todays meeting...

The maneuvering between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao is downright kooky by Tim Keown full article on ESPN.com This is a tactic worthy of the best disinformation campaigns. You issue a damning proclamation and then stand back and let everyone else deny it. This is what Mayweather's people seem to be doing by asking Pacquiao to submit to random blood testing to prove that he's not using performance-enhancing drugs, whether it be steroids or HGH. And since Pacquiao refuses to consent to anything beyond unlimited urine tests, Mayweather's people can sit back and say, "See? See what we're talking about?" I know what you're thinking: If Pacquiao doesn't have anything to hide, why doesn't he agree to blood testing? That's become the default position in today's society. Stop at this checkpoint, walk through this machine, hold your arms out for the wand. Not to get too broad here, but we've become so accustomed to proving our innocence in everyday life that we forgot how the system is supposed to work. This isn't a guy looking to board a plane. This is a guy who is being accused of a crime by the other side, and he's being called upon to prove his innocence despite the complete absence of evidence suggesting guilt. They cite Pacquiao's ascent through weight classes as circumstantial evidence, but going from a 106-pounder at 16 years old to a 147-pounder at 31 isn't unprecedented. In fact, Mayweather has made a similar run through weight classes starting from his Golden Gloves days. As a 16-year-old in 1993, Mayweather won the national Golden Gloves at 106. The next year, he won at 112; and in '96, he won at 125. Despite the Mayweather camp's insistence on a "level playing field," this isn't similar to a guy hitting 73 homers after never having hit 50. Clearly, nobody wants to discuss civil liberties; the presumption of guilt is easier and more convenient. Pacquiao's people have cited a dislike of needles as a reason for his refusal to submit to blood testing, and that point has been justifiably mocked by those who cite his obvious like of tattoos. More than needles, it's likely Pacquiao dislikes being singled out, and dislikes being presumed guilty despite never failing a drug test. This isn't to say that it's totally out of the question that Pacquiao is juicing, or HGHing, or blood-doping, or ingesting something a chemist in the Philippines just realized can make a man's punch mimic a donkey kick. He's got motive (his own legacy) and opportunity (more than enough money), but you could say the same about Mayweather or any other big-time athlete. It's one thing to wonder without proof, another to openly allege without proof. (Mayweather's people did agree to pay a $10 million fine if he comes in overweight, but that clause came about because he did come in overweight for his last fight, against Juan Manuel Marquez. There is no correlative concerning Pacquiao and performance-enhancing drugs. And that's why Pacquiao filed a defamation suit on Jan. 1.) There should be a consistent system in place to test boxers -- it's a safety issue as much as anything. And yes, Mayweather is agreeing to the same blood testing his people are demanding of Pacquiao. But I don't blame Pacquiao for rebelling against an arbitrary system that is accompanied by underhanded suggestions that he owes his success to cheating.Even though most of our innocence has been shredded by the past 15 years of enhancement, there is such a thing as natural greatness. Mayweather is a gamesman, a master tactician in and out of the ring. He talks a lot and manages to infiltrate the minds of his opponents before they step into the ring. He's all flash and dash, but he studies the game and is fiercely proud of his legacy as an undefeated fighter. He has a reputation for ducking lesser fighters than Pacquiao to retain that distinction. But this fight is so big, and the potential payoff so preposterous, that Mayweather almost has no choice but to take it. That has led some in the Pacquiao camp to conclude that Floyd is using the drug issue as a straw man either to get out of the fight or to use as an excuse if he were to lose Even venturing a guess is like taking a trip through an alien world. One thing is for sure: Mayweather is the bigger man and the bigger draw and the bigger personality. He has more to lose than Pacquiao. Much like his fighting style, he is poking and prodding, careful to stay just out of reach. Mayweather has always been the master technician. This time, the ring is optional. ----------- the longer this fiasco lingers, the more it is going to backfire on Floyd. FACT! So let's hope they will find the solution today

I think alot of Floyd fans are oversimplifying this when they say "just take the test if you ain't got nothing to hide." This pretty much sums it up for me - "Floyd Mayweather Jr. is demanding that Manny Pacquiao prove himself innocent of a transgression that only Mayweather and his people are alleging." "You issue a damning proclamation and then stand back and let everyone else deny it. This is what Mayweather's people seem to be doing by asking Pacquiao to submit to random blood testing to prove that he's not using performance-enhancing drugs, whether it be steroids or HGH. And since Pacquiao refuses to consent to anything beyond unlimited urine tests, Mayweather's people can sit back and say, "See? See what we're talking about?" "This is a guy who is being accused of a crime by the other side, and he's being called upon to prove his innocence despite the complete absence of evidence suggesting guilt."

i'm also waiting for the announcement. Hope both sides will meet half-way.... this is it!

I think its a trust thing. If it was ordered by nsac then we would have the fight. yOU ARE RIGHT about that... Why would the fighter choose the drug testing agency? That makes no sense.

Hurry up and announce the damn fight!!!!!

all the dude has to do is man up and agree to 5 random blood tests....if he's clean, he's clean. by putting constraints and time limits on tests, you do nothing but make yourself look bad...perhaps manny and his advisors don't understand this. you'd rather have the drug testing stipulation dropped, so you can fight, and if you win, you'll be forever under a cloud of suspicion..... than agree to testing, come out clean, then win or lose the fight, be viewed as a "straight-up" guy? the issue is a no-brainer, IMO....unless somebody knows how the tests will turn out.... :nonono: I think its a trust thing. If it was ordered by nsac then we would have the fight.

all the dude has to do is man up and agree to 5 random blood tests....if he's clean, he's clean. by putting constraints and time limits on tests, you do nothing but make yourself look bad...perhaps manny and his advisors don't understand this. you'd rather have the drug testing stipulation dropped, so you can fight, and if you win, you'll be forever under a cloud of suspicion..... than agree to testing, come out clean, then win or lose the fight, be viewed as a "straight-up" guy? the issue is a no-brainer, IMO....unless somebody knows how the tests will turn out.... :nonono: I dunno pac's cut off date. roach said it was 4-5 days before the fight; but who knows. that said, no amount of random testing will be good enough for haters. team mayweather must pay for slander and libel.

That is true win or lose random or not the damage is done to Pacs legacy and career in and out the ring hence lawsuit. all the dude has to do is man up and agree to 5 random blood tests....if he's clean, he's clean. by putting constraints and time limits on tests, you do nothing but make yourself look bad...perhaps manny and his advisors don't understand this. you'd rather have the drug testing stipulation dropped, so you can fight, and if you win, you'll be forever under a cloud of suspicion..... than agree to testing, come out clean, then win or lose the fight, be viewed as a "straight-up" guy? the issue is a no-brainer, IMO....unless somebody knows how the tests will turn out.... :nonono:

They should unban Left Hook Tua.

hopefully team mayweather is willing to put a foot in their mouths. they have already sown the seeds of doubt win or lose. the damage is done and no amount of testing will satisfy Pac haters. That is true win or lose random or not the damage is done to Pacs legacy and career in and out the ring hence lawsuit.

What the heck? Today is tuesdsay. We should have heard something from the meeting already. Any word if they have come up with a compromise for the megafight? hopefully team mayweather is willing to put a foot in their mouths. they have already sown the seeds of doubt win or lose. the damage is done and no amount of testing will satisfy Pac haters.

What the heck? Today is tuesdsay. We should have heard something from the meeting already. Any word if they have come up with a compromise for the megafight? i heard it's scheduled for noon....but that's vegas time, meaning another hour-and-a-half.... IMO this is it. they have to get it done today, or the fights off... :nonono: