Pacquiao Weakened by Blood Test Before the First Morales Fight (2005)!

pac losing a fight where he had to take tests before the fight is a fact. floyd asking for random blood tests without any evidence is an excuse. very true, flomos believe more in floyd sr accusation that has zero evidence than the fact that presented to them. Lol

I can live with Pacquiao not agreeing to the more stringent testing and walking away from a fight with Mayweather. There will just be an asterisk beside his name in my mind. To me, he looks as if he has something to hide if he walks away from Mayweather because of the drug testing issue. Either that, or he's just flat out scared. You can continue to falsely accuse me of crucifying Pacquiao all you want, but it just proves my point that you're an unreasonable groupie. I haven't said anything disrespectful towards Pacquiao or Mayweather because I choose not to. Not because I care what you think. I don't have a reason to disrespect either one of those guys. I'm a boxing fan. I don't know either one of them personally, so why would I disrespect them? That's the difference between you and I. You're not a boxing fan, you're a female Pacquiao groupie. I've looked at this situation from both sides while you're completely biased. Your whole way of looking at this issue is just plain dumb. You keep talking about how Mayweather is wrong for asking Pacquiao to submit to stricter drug testing than what's already in place, but you completely ignore the FACT that the there are huge holes in the current drug testing policy that Boxing uses, and that there are numerous ways to beat it. Plus the rules in boxing are negotiated on a fight by fight basis. Your dumb ass keeps repeating this BS about abiding by the rules that are already in place and that excuse has already been refuted. The ten million dollar penalty wasn't a rule that was already in place, was it? That didn't stop Pacquiao from requesting that clause for this particular fight, did it? Not only are you not too smart, you are closeminded to the point that you don't even listen to people who are smarter than you are. You're a trip my man. So you're still here babbling about your crap, eh? Look, as long as you're pointing all your dirty fingers on Pac, I have nothing more for you. Like I have reiterated over and over again, if were Pac I wouldn't even care what you people think. Seven world titles in multiple weight divisions? C'mon man you people got to be kidding. Not only that, you've got to be really an idiot to believe you could get away from taking that ped shit all those years without getting caught. C-o-m-e o-n... Unfortunately, I am not the Pac. I really wished he had that type of personality. He would even get his 60/40 split demand. And before you say anything else, that's reality in boxing. If you are the champ you get to dictate terms and stipulations. You've got to be so really stupid not to realize this especially when you say you're a fan of boxing. Here's my latest view on this whole controversy, though. Since the Pac has not the kind of personality I was talking about, the whole thing was handled badly by the Pac team. They made them look like they wanted the fight so bad that the other camp capitalized on it. But I'm through with that shit and I am tired. I'm sure the Pacman will eventually succumb to pressures. And you know what? I hope he will.

This was back i 2005, 5 years ago when he was actually draining himself to make weight. That would be like DLH at 147 drawing blood and losing strength. pac still has to cut weight to make 147 lbs. its not a physcial thing, it's a psychological/mental thing.

Why'd he do it, NSAC asked him to, not Morales. This was back i 2005, 5 years ago when he was actually draining himself to make weight. That would be like DLH at 147 drawing blood and losing strength.

I can live with Pacquiao not agreeing to the more stringent testing and walking away from a fight with Mayweather. There will just be an asterisk beside his name in my mind. To me, he looks as if he has something to hide if he walks away from Mayweather because of the drug testing issue. Either that, or he's just flat out scared. You can continue to falsely accuse me of crucifying Pacquiao all you want, but it just proves my point that you're an unreasonable groupie. I haven't said anything disrespectful towards Pacquiao or Mayweather because I choose not to. Not because I care what you think. I don't have a reason to disrespect either one of those guys. I'm a boxing fan. I don't know either one of them personally, so why would I disrespect them? That's the difference between you and I. You're not a boxing fan, you're a female Pacquiao groupie. I've looked at this situation from both sides while you're completely biased. Your whole way of looking at this issue is just plain dumb. You keep talking about how Mayweather is wrong for asking Pacquiao to submit to stricter drug testing than what's already in place, but you completely ignore the FACT that the there are huge holes in the current drug testing policy that Boxing uses, and that there are numerous ways to beat it. Plus the rules in boxing are negotiated on a fight by fight basis. Your dumb ass keeps repeating this BS about abiding by the rules that are already in place and that excuse has already been refuted. The ten million dollar penalty wasn't a rule that was already in place, was it? That didn't stop Pacquiao from requesting that clause for this particular fight, did it? Not only are you not too smart, you are closeminded to the point that you don't even listen to people who are smarter than you are. You're a trip my man. if pac takes the blood test while he's cutting weight he will be effected by it psychologically and mentally. IMHO, pac gave blood during the hatton fight, so however far that appointment was from the fight should be ok for pac to give blood.

Manny does not have a right to say no , this is PEDS in sport we are talking about not ring size or gloves its a very big issue in all sport , no athlete can say no , no clean athlete would say no , no athlete in the history of sport has said no , Manny has no right to deny a testing procedure without being looked at as highly suspicious . Floyd only has to think maybe Manny is on them and its his right to ask for the testing that he has , Manny as a high profile leading Sportsman in the public eye has moral obligation to world sport to take the tests . Im not even going to get into your cowardice bullshit ,because in this fight Manny is ducking not Floyd and thats as plain as daylight . Call a spade a spade. Imposing rules beyond the boundary of boxing sport is ducking. There's no way around it. He's scared shit of the Pacman.

No sauce=Weakened Performance Suace n No detected test=Strength This is not true. Pac take the Random Test.

So what's the problem? It's not you or I who's going to be in the ring as you said. Pacquiao rejects FM's demands, which he as the right to. Why can't you live with that? He's he that insignificant to you that it's easy for you to crucify him because he rejects all your idol's demands? You said "I haven't said anything disrespectful towards Pacquiao." Who exactly is stopping you? You can say anything malicious about him and I wouldn't give a flying trapeze about it. This whole idea of demanding a fellow fighter (regardless who they are) to submit to rules beyond what is in place is wrong! If the tables were turned, ie, Pacquiao asking such stupid demands, I'll side with FM. Plain and simple. That's the intelligent way of seeing it. The only possible reason why such demand is being insisted is fear. Fear of losing. That's cowardice. Manny does not have a right to say no , this is PEDS in sport we are talking about not ring size or gloves its a very big issue in all sport , no athlete can say no , no clean athlete would say no , no athlete in the history of sport has said no , Manny has no right to deny a testing procedure without being looked at as highly suspicious . Floyd only has to think maybe Manny is on them and its his right to ask for the testing that he has , Manny as a high profile leading Sportsman in the public eye has moral obligation to world sport to take the tests . Im not even going to get into your cowardice bullshit ,because in this fight Manny is ducking not Floyd and thats as plain as daylight .

It doesn't matter if I think that a test after the fight is good enough. I'm not the one who's going to be in the ring. Neither are you, RJJ, or anybody else you want to bring up. Obvioulsy Mayweather doesn't feel that a test after the fight is good enough. He's the only one that matters since he's the only one who will be in the ring with Pacquiao. Why is it so hard for you to get that through your thick*ss head? So what's the problem? It's not you or I who's going to be in the ring as you said. Pacquiao rejects FM's demands, which he as the right to. Why can't you live with that? He's he that insignificant to you that it's easy for you to crucify him because he rejects all your idol's demands? You are too much. You come up here disrespecting Mayweather calling him a coward and all of that just because he wants more stringent testing, yet you have the nerve to accuse me of "crucifying" Pacquiao? I haven't said anything disrespectful towards Pacquiao. I haven't even accused him of being dirty. The only thing that I've said is that him refusing to agree to random blood testing and threatening to walk away from a bout with Mayweather over the issue looks fishy. I don't know if Pacquiao or Mayweather use PEDs. I do know that Mayweather is willing to subject himself to random blood testing to prove that he isn't, while Pacquiao refuses. Pacquiao's reaction to Mayweather's request makes it look like he has something to hide. I notice that you refused to answer my question though. Quite telling. You said "I haven't said anything disrespectful towards Pacquiao." Who exactly is stopping you? You can say anything malicious about him and I wouldn't give a flying trapeze about it. This whole idea of demanding a fellow fighter (regardless who they are) to submit to rules beyond what is in place is wrong! If the tables were turned, ie, Pacquiao asking such stupid demands, I'll side with FM. Plain and simple. That's the intelligent way of seeing it. The only possible reason why such demand is being insisted is fear. Fear of losing. That's cowardice.

The idea that asking for more stringent drug testing is some cowardly despicable act is mind boggling to me. Do you think that there is any possibility that Pacquiao or Mayweather may be using something that's against the rules? Wouldn't more stringent testing help lower the chances that either fighter will be able to get away with doing so for this fight? Are you a boxing fan or jkust a Pacquiao nuthugger? You keep talking about what RJJ has said, when he was caught dirty after one of his fights. No surprise that a guy who was caught using something against the rules would be against more stringent testing. He probably wishes he never submitted to testing after the fight that he got caught. Do you really want to use someone who was caught cheating to support your stance on this? Typical answer coming from people who have lost all sense of rationality. Shoot the messenger and discard message. What I was expecting you to do is look inside the deepest recesses of your brain and try searching for something that makes sense. I was asking a simple question, do you think agreeing to a test right after the fight isn't good enough? Pacquiao is not totally disagreeing with the idea, which to me is idiotic, if I were him. It's strange to me that you people are crucifying him and let the guy who started it all go unscathed. Here's the question: "Do you honestly believe that Pacquiao is using steroids?" Yes or no.

it's kind of like the placeibo effect. The placebo effect points to the importance of perception and the brain's role in physical health. i.e. if a doctor gives a patient a NEUTRAL pill and tells the patient it will make them feel better, 9 times out of 10 the patient will get better because he BELIEVES the pill has positive effects.

So Pac fans have an execuse for every Pac loss? Pathetic. So far he lost to Morales because of: Eye drops that made his vision blurry Being weight drained Being a blood drained. The socks excuse. Pactards are pathetic. Dont forget the "baaaw, Morales didn't let me use the my Reyes gloves!!" Steriodquao just can't admit he got handled by a declining Morales. then fought him again after he was clearly shot and out of his prime.

Stop talking about rights. Rights aren't the issue. Neither one is obligated to take this fight. Yes, Mayweather wants the fight, but he also wants a clean fair fight. He has asked for more stringent testing to help ensure this because he feels that Pacquiao may be dirty. There is nothing cowardly about that. I don't care what Dana White, Roy Jones JR., or what anybody else says or thinks. They are not the ones who are going to be in the ring. The only two people that matter are Pacquiao and Mayweather. If it was Pacquiao who was concerned that Mayweather is dirty and requested more stringent testing, I'd back Pacquiao and look at Mayweather funny. Something tells me that you'd still be slurping Pacquiao even if the situation was revered. Stop talking about rights? Isn't that the totality of your message in all this, that FM has every right, and now you don't want to talk about rights because Pac also has every right to reject it? Believe me, the situation will never be reversed because Pacquiao, or any boxer for that matter will never ask anything that stupid. Don't ever dream about it. Won't happen. Never. Look in you own backyard. I gave you something to think about like the Roy Jones analogy. You kept ignoring it. Roy Jones would not let himself be bullied like this. I suggest that you stop cheerleading to something that is cowardly.

Fukk you TS, don't take ANYTHING away from Morales. He did a hell of a job and beat Pacquiao because he was the better man. That'd be as stupid as me saying Cotto lost because it was a 145 pounds fight and not a 147 pound fight.

If I read and watched this video and other info on this subject clearly then........Pac's blood was being drawn for a physical not testing. Its my understanding that they also take considerably more blood for physicals than they do for PED testing. good to know.one of the few posts with some decent info.

So Mayweather is a coward because he is requesting more stringent drug testing? You honestly believe that? Yes! If you're really thinking and have just a bit of respect for the Pac you'd immediately think that this is bs, and Pac has every right reject it. Does he (Floyd) want the fight or not? Dana White is in the business of contact sport in which steroid use is more likely to occur yet he thinks the current testing is good enough. And why do you think agreeing to the test after the fight is not good enough?

lol at it being a mental thing so what happens when he bleeds during fights like he has bled a couple of time?! DOES MANNY RUN OUT THE RING BECAUSE HE IS SCARED TO SEE BLOOD DRIPPING BELOW HIS EYES? OR DOES HE STAY IN THERE? HE STAYS IN THERE SO IT'S NOT MENTAL getting cut and getting your blood drawn is two different things a person who had a traumatic experience will associate anything that resembles the cause of his traumatic experience for example if the cause of a person's fear is car accident. That person will be scared to drive a vehicle as well as ride a car as a passenger in fear of getting in an accident again. simple psychology

lmfao..its a mental thing..jesus christ im done.... yes its a mental thing. Do you have a phobia? its the same thing. Kinda like if a person has a public speaking phobia, no matter how big or small the audience is, that person is still scared to talk infront of the crowd.

You're an idiot. If Mayweather and his team suspect that Pacquiao is dirty, then they have every right to request more stringent testing to ensure that they get a fair fight. What is wrong with you? Are you really this slow or is it just an act? You're the idiot. Manny has nothing to do with Floyd being a coward. Point your fingers to Floyd. Yes him. I repeat. If I were Manny I won't even give a shit what you idiots think about me. If Pac has the Roy Jones type of personality these stupid discussion wouldn't even materialize. Floyd is scared. Pac has the right to say if you don't want to fight f*** you. I'll have none of that bs.

lol at it being a mental thing so what happens when he bleeds during fights like he has bled a couple of time?! DOES MANNY RUN OUT THE RING BECAUSE HE IS SCARED TO SEE BLOOD DRIPPING BELOW HIS EYES? OR DOES HE STAY IN THERE? HE STAYS IN THERE SO IT'S NOT MENTAL