Why a blood test would effect Pacquiao more than Mayweather..

Of course they can fight without the more stringent testing. They could fight without any testing period. Would you be in favor of that? What if Mayweather declined to subject himself to any testing period, including urine testing? Would you be ok with that? Mayweather has never tested positive for anything, so nobody has any reason to doubt him, right? Whether they can fight without the random blood testing isn't the point. The point is why doesn't Pacquiao want to comply with the stricter testing? Why has his team came up with several BS excuses for why he doesn't want to comply? The reason that Mayweather is requesting the more stringent testing does not matter. He may genuinely feel that Pacquiao is on PEDS, he may not believe that Pacqiao is that strong, or this may just be a way to get into Pacquiao's head. Regardless, Pacquiao looks suspicious by refusing the request. He's done more damage to his name and reputation by refusing the tests, than anybody from team Mayweather could have ever done. What is "stupid" about stricter testing that both fighters will be subjected to? You sound like a little kid who doesn't know any better. If that's the case then I'm sorry I even engaged with you to start with. If your premise is: What if Mayweather declined himself to any testing period including urine testing? He cannot do that because NSAC as the governing body has rules to be followed that includes medical testing procedure which require every fighter to subject themselves into this procedure. Manny has all the reason to decline Mayweathers demand because it's not within the NSAC rules. However Manny is agreeable to 5-day before the fight window blood test but not 2-days before the fight. He is also willing to a blood test right after the fight in his locker room. Mayweathers team rejected it and keep on insisting the olympic style random blood testing which the test itself has no predetermined cut off time which could lead up to the fight night. Now, if PBF really is stepping on the plate and wants to fight Manny, he should accept even the after-fight blood test because this is the only blood test that will have best effective results. Manny is already giving him favor of having his blood tested right after the fight in his locker room, which is already beyond the required medical testing procedure by NSAC and not even required. Is this not enough agreeing to PBF's demand for a blood testing to find out if someone is using illegal substance? Your premise: Mayweather has never tested positive for anything, so nobody has any reason to doubt him, right? Do you think it's fair for Mayweather to doubt Manny even if Manny was never tested positive for anything? Be reasonable enough!!! Arum doesn't want Mayweathers team dictating the rules because it's the job of the commission. If you join a contest, you don't make the rules. If you want some rules to be amended, address it to the proper governing body of the contest. Everbody wants clean, fair fight. This terms is already fair to both fighters and also to the fans. Let's make the fight happen!

There is such thing as testing "in-competition" and "out-competition" some testing for PED's for HGH's are requried for both in-competition and out-competition. The real argument here is not on the nature of testings but on the randomness and frequency of testings. If the Mayweather camp is afraid that Pacman is a habitual user of HGH like CERA or BALCO, it is useless to test him during fight night because the purpose of such drug is to enhance your performance during training and not during the fight night. If both parties really wanted this fight to happen, a simple compromise is very easy to sort out. Allow that demand of Mayweather camp regarding the frequency and randomness of testings and on the other hand, for Pacman's side, only allow such randomness of testing reducing the window to only 1 week from fight night. Wouldn't that sound reasonable? In addition, NSAC should include in their yearly convention the proposal to ugrade their anti-doping procedure. Current urine testing procedures are out of date already. It should already include the latest urinology testings to detect new generation PED's and in addition, blood testings and follicle testings to further ensure the integrity that boxers are fighting fairly. The last sentence in your first paragraph sounds reasonable enough. In fact, PacMan and Roach is amenable to a 5-day before the fight window, but team Mayweather rejected it and keep on insisting the olympic random style testing which the test itself has no predetermined cut off time which could lead up to the fight night. The purpose of the blood test is to find out whether someone is using illegal or banned substance. If the effect of these drugs is to enhance performance during trainings but not on the fight itself, therefore it is safe to say that their own skills is on the play during the fight. Any scientific study will be appreciated if it can show that training with enahncement drugs tanslate into additional power punch or stamina comes the actual fight. Floyd Sr. said: "I don't think he can beat Lil' Floyd with steroids in him or not. He doesn't have the skills..." Now show the world that your BIG MOUTH is making sense!!!

its funny pactards actually want us to believe a blood test will affect manny more than floyd..ya'll have stooped to a new level of retardation..seriously this is just dumb It's more retarded for you to think that a blood test affects everyone the same way. But what's even more retarded is that Flomos don't see anything wrong for Floyd's camp demanding Manny to do this test while Floyd's camp had never asked any of their previous opponents before to do this test and the fact that they're dictating and changing the rules of Boxing in regards to the drug testing. Not to mention that Floyd himself have done the same standard drug test throughout his whole career and believed in it, depended on it, and relied on it as well. That's quite hypocritical for Floyd and his Flomos IMO and none of you Flomos don't see anything wrong with that?

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here's a proof that Pacquiao's power is all natural. for Flomos, pac Haters and doubters' eyes only. Against 3K battery. Nice KO from Pacman. Banig sa Taguig.

here's a proof that Pacquiao's power is all natural. for Flomos, pac Haters and doubters' eyes only.

PBF is demanding random blood testing, to be administered by USADA (later agreed to move off USADA) and that the test itself has no predetermined cut off time which could lead up to fight night itself. PacMan agreeable to 3 blood tests: one after the press conference, one 30-days before the fight, one right after the fight in the dressing room. Manny is not against any blood testing it's VERY CLEAR. If he is in steroids or anything, it will surely show up in the last blood test. In fact the first 2-tests will not matter much, that's why NSAC never required it. I think NSAC should amend its rules on medical testing and should include blood testing right after every fight, and if the winner tested positive the decision should be nullified and the offender should be fined. I think there is no need for a random blood testing during training and before the fight, random urine testing would be enough during that period of time. Now, if PBF really is stepping on the plate and wants to fight Manny, he should accept even the last blood test because this is the only blood test that will have best effective results. Manny is already giving him favor of having his blood tested right after the fight in his dressing room, which is already beyond the required medical testing procedure by NSAC and not even required. Is this not enough agreeing to PBF's demand for a blood testing to find out if someone is using illegal substance? Arum doesn't want Mayweathers team dictating the rules because it's the job of the commission. If you join a contest, you don't make the rules. If you want some rules to be amended, address it to the proper governing body of the contest. Everbody wants clean, fair fight. This terms is already fair to both fighters and also to the fans. Let's make the fight happen! There is such thing as testing "in-competition" and "out-competition" some testing for PED's for HGH's are requried for both in-competition and out-competition. The real argument here is not on the nature of testings but on the randomness and frequency of testings. If the Mayweather camp is afraid that Pacman is a habitual user of HGH like CERA or BALCO, it is useless to test him during fight night because the purpose of such drug is to enhance your performance during training and not during the fight night. If both parties really wanted this fight to happen, a simple compromise is very easy to sort out. Allow that demand of Mayweather camp regarding the frequency and randomness of testings and on the other hand, for Pacman's side, only allow such randomness of testing reducing the window to only 1 week from fight night. Wouldn't that sound reasonable? In addition, NSAC should include in their yearly convention the proposal to ugrade their anti-doping procedure. Current urine testing procedures are out of date already. It should already include the latest urinology testings to detect new generation PED's and in addition, blood testings and follicle testings to further ensure the integrity that boxers are fighting fairly.

so its out..mannys a simple minded,supersticious retard......i didnt make this up..manny fans said this Yah. You're right. Pacman is a superstitious retard. That's why he is endorsing Nike and not Mayweather. Jelousy consumes us all.

In addition to these, Mayweather has a bigger frame, therefore has more blood than Pacquiao. With the same amount of blood being drawn Pac is on the losing end by way of common sense. That's not true at all.

I hear the same bullshit over and over from narrow minded Floyd fans or as I call them (The John Birch Society) saying that Mayweather is going through the same tests Pacquiao is so it would effect them equally. Well, if they actual took time to get their heads out of their ass and breath some fresh air they would know that it isn't the amount of blood being withdrawn or the physical effects of it.. it's the mental. See Pacquiao, unlike Mayweather, believes getting blood extracted weakens him and he believes this strongly since he had blood extracted days before the Morales fight which he lost. Personally, I think Morales was the better man.. Pacquiao in his head however doesn't think so. Mayweather is confident he will be ok with the tests.. since he believes in them. Pacquiao doesn't and therefor doubts it. You ever gave a child Flindstones tablets and told them.. they could run, jump and play stronger and faster because of it? They went out there thinking they were superman and therefor performed better because of it. This is pretty much the same damn thing. Only difference is it involves something weakening you rather than making you stronger and it's between two adults. In addition to these, Mayweather has a bigger frame, therefore has more blood than Pacquiao. With the same amount of blood being drawn Pac is on the losing end by way of common sense.

PBF is demanding random blood testing, to be administered by USADA (later agreed to move off USADA) and that the test itself has no predetermined cut off time which could lead up to fight night itself. PacMan agreeable to 3 blood tests: one after the press conference, one 30-days before the fight, one right after the fight in the dressing room. Manny is not against any blood testing it's VERY CLEAR. If he is in steroids or anything, it will surely show up in the last blood test. In fact the first 2-tests will not matter much, that's why NSAC never required it. I think NSAC should amend its rules on medical testing and should include blood testing right after every fight, and if the winner tested positive the decision should be nullified and the offender should be fined. I think there is no need for a random blood testing during training and before the fight, random urine testing would be enough during that period of time. Now, if PBF really is stepping on the plate and wants to fight Manny, he should accept even the last blood test because this is the only blood test that will have best effective results. Manny is already giving him favor of having his blood tested right after the fight in his dressing room, which is already beyond the required medical testing procedure by NSAC and not even required. Is this not enough agreeing to PBF's demand for a blood testing to find out if someone is using illegal substance? Arum doesn't want Mayweathers team dictating the rules because it's the job of the commission. If you join a contest, you don't make the rules. If you want some rules to be amended, address it to the proper governing body of the contest. Everbody wants clean, fair fight. This terms is already fair to both fighters and also to the fans. Let's make the fight happen!

Children are gullible..GROWN ASS MEN who are PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES shouldn't be.. you can tell a child that the llorona will snatch his lil ass up if he don't act right and believe it..if I tell you the same at 30yrs old would you still believe me?.. Good point!!

I hear the same bullshit over and over from narrow minded Floyd fans or as I call them (The John Birch Society) saying that Mayweather is going through the same tests Pacquiao is so it would effect them equally. Well, if they actual took time to get their heads out of their ass and breath some fresh air they would know that it isn't the amount of blood being withdrawn or the physical effects of it.. it's the mental. See Pacquiao, unlike Mayweather, believes getting blood extracted weakens him and he believes this strongly since he had blood extracted days before the Morales fight which he lost. Personally, I think Morales was the better man.. Pacquiao in his head however doesn't think so. Mayweather is confident he will be ok with the tests.. since he believes in them. Pacquiao doesn't and therefor doubts it. You ever gave a child Flindstones tablets and told them.. they could run, jump and play stronger and faster because of it? They went out there thinking they were superman and therefor performed better because of it. This is pretty much the same damn thing. Only difference is it involves something weakening you rather than making you stronger and it's between two adults. Are you talking bout the time frame of the blood test or giving blood in general? The reason I ask is if it's just bout giving blood than that excuse should be thrown out the window since he gave blood before the Hatton fight and brutally ko'd him. I mean since your saying he lost to Morales and in his mind he was weakened by the giving blood.

I hear the same bullshit over and over from narrow minded Floyd fans or as I call them (The John Birch Society) saying that Mayweather is going through the same tests Pacquiao is so it would effect them equally. Well, if they actual took time to get their heads out of their ass and breath some fresh air they would know that it isn't the amount of blood being withdrawn or the physical effects of it.. it's the mental. See Pacquiao, unlike Mayweather, believes getting blood extracted weakens him and he believes this strongly since he had blood extracted days before the Morales fight which he lost. Personally, I think Morales was the better man.. Pacquiao in his head however doesn't think so. Mayweather is confident he will be ok with the tests.. since he believes in them. Pacquiao doesn't and therefor doubts it. You ever gave a child Flindstones tablets and told them.. they could run, jump and play stronger and faster because of it? They went out there thinking they were superman and therefor performed better because of it. This is pretty much the same damn thing. Only difference is it involves something weakening you rather than making you stronger and it's between two adults. Pacman is no child anymore.

For the last time, stop making this dumb*ass excuse. There are no "existing rules". The rules for the fight were being negotiated until Pacquiao walked away from the negotiating table. Why is that so hard for you people to understand? You're a fanatic. Admit it. If you're not, then you've just bought this stupid nonsense that you cannot fight without that stupid rule. Can you actually believe that you cannot fight without that stupid rule? The fact that they can't believe he is that strong, he must be taking substances that are idiotically overrated. For once listen to your rants idiots and point your fingers to the one who started this idiotic rule. THERE ARE EXISTING RULES, stupid. It suited everyone in the past including your idol. Is that so hard to understand??!!! Just for once use your common sense. Take the last word, for all I care. You people are unrehabilitatable.

I hear the same bullshit over and over from narrow minded Floyd fans or as I call them (The John Birch Society) saying that Mayweather is going through the same tests Pacquiao is so it would effect them equally. Well, if they actual took time to get their heads out of their ass and breath some fresh air they would know that it isn't the amount of blood being withdrawn or the physical effects of it.. it's the mental. See Pacquiao, unlike Mayweather, believes getting blood extracted weakens him and he believes this strongly since he had blood extracted days before the Morales fight which he lost. Personally, I think Morales was the better man.. Pacquiao in his head however doesn't think so. Mayweather is confident he will be ok with the tests.. since he believes in them. Pacquiao doesn't and therefor doubts it. You ever gave a child Flindstones tablets and told them.. they could run, jump and play stronger and faster because of it? They went out there thinking they were superman and therefor performed better because of it. This is pretty much the same damn thing. Only difference is it involves something weakening you rather than making you stronger and it's between two adults. Children are gullible..GROWN ASS MEN who are PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES shouldn't be.. you can tell a child that the llorona will snatch his lil ass up if he don't act right and believe it..if I tell you the same at 30yrs old would you still believe me?..

Pac is a grown man. stop bs around this issue. a blood test might affect no athletes, and you may need to rst and have a donut, but for athletes it should go with the territory. hard training, weight control, diet....after all that your going to still tell me a blood test is going to be life or death? get real.

*NEWSFLASH* YOU ARE NOT MANNY PACQUIAO. Why are you taking Mayweather's request for more strict drug testing personally as if he has insulted your honor or something? Some of you have completely lost touch with reality. You all are supposed to be boxing fans, no? The majority of you act as if you're on Pacquiao's payroll. You all are more interested in protecting Pacquiao's feelings than you are about seeing him get in the ring with Mayweather. Manny Pacquiao is a professional athlete, fans shouldn't be concerned about his ego or pride being hurt because a potential opponent suspects him of using PEDs. It's 2010, PEDs play a huge role in all professional sports. Saying that Mayweather is bullying him or pushing him around because he's requesting stricter testing is ludicrous. There are no set of rules that have existed in boxing for generations and generations. The rules in boxing are negotiated fight by fight. That's the point that I was making when I brought up Pacquiao's ten million dollar penalty request. Try to keep up man. You're not a boxing fan, you're a Pacquiao fan-boy. Boxing fans want to see this fight happen and hope that the best man will win. Stricter testing would only go further to ensure that the fight will be fair and on an even playing field. Anybody who is against the more stringent testing is not a true boxing fan and has an agenda. It's as simple as that. OOOKay I'm not Pacquiao. How about this: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343326 ROY JONES JR SIDES WITH PACQUIAO: "I WOULDN'T TAKE ANY EXTRA TESTS!" By G. Leon GL: Are you aware of the ongoing crisis surrounding the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight? "Most definitely." GL: Do you have an opinion on it? "You could see Pacquiao's side, why should he change for Floyd? A fight don't start in the ring, it starts when the negotiation starts. If these are the rules, we're going to stick by the standard rules. On the other hand, I understand he's saying something been going on, but the problem with that is, if you're going to check him why didn't you check Marquez? Why didn't you make anybody else do it? It's kind of strange to call him out on this and nobody else." GL: Do you see anything in Pacquiao that would lead you to feel suspicious? RJ: "No. The kid is strong, he came up in weight and brought his stregth. Nowadays the testing is good enough, they got it to where you can't even take over the counter products. I can testify to that. The testing is very good right now and there's nothing he could really do that they can't find. Why make Pacquiao take the test and not anybody else?" GL: Would you have made such a concession for John Ruiz or any of your other big fights? RJ: "Hell naw. Why change the rules on me? Because I'm coming up in weight means I'm doing steroids? They're giving you a test for that anyway. It would be something that would aggravate me because then after I beat you, I was on something, don't play with me. Either you want to fight or you don't want to fight. What part of that don't you understand?! Go ahead start shooting the messenger. You people would gain more sympathy if you talk about something else like, "Floyd can beat the hell out of this guy" within the existing rules. "There's no way he (Pacquiao) would try risking using illegal substances in an event of this magnitude. It's simply crazy." "Floyd can beat him even if he's on roids." Sadly, you keep insisting this bullcrap as if it's nothing serious.

You people can keep saying that Mayweather is scared all you want, but the the facts of life say otherwise. Pacquiao is the one who has walked away from the negotiating table, not Mayweather. Stop being such a Pacquiao cheerleader and try to look at this objectively. Judging by your comments, I doubt that's even possible. You don't seem to care if the fight gets made or not. As a matter of fact, the majority of you Pacquiao groupies here seem to be perfectly fine with Pacquiao turning this fight down. That's evidence of fear in my opinion. If you Pacquiao groupies really believed that Mayweather is scared of Pacquiao and that Pacquiao is clean like he says, then you should all be begging him to take the tests and whoop Mayweather in the ring for the entire world to see. If the situation was reversed, I surely would be looking at Mayweather funny as if he has something to hide. There's no way I would be bullied like that if I were Pac. Especially at this point in my career. Nope. If you think I'm using steroids, prove it! And please drop that 40 million argument, please! I have enough to sustain me till the day I die. Nope, I'm not going to let you push me around like that as if I've just beaten second class boxers. Do you want the fight or not? If yes, then stop this stupid ridiculous nonsense and abide by the existing rules that have been set for generations and generations. Take it or leave it.

First it was he'll take any test, anytime, anywhere. Then, it was he's afraid of needles. Then, it was that he's superstitious. Then, it was that "He has no idea what he takes." Then, it was that it's too close to the fight to draw blood. Then, it was that he becomes physically weak. Now, it's that drawing blood weakens him mentally. When will it ever end? If my memory serves me right, Roach is the one that said "he's afraid of needles", Ariza is the one that said "he has no idea what he's taking", and Arum is the one that said "he's superstitious. The rest Manny did say. Either way, what's your point. Regardless of what excuses they're going to use, he's not taking the random blood test and definitely not too close to the fight, end of discussion. The issue now is what would be the compromise for both teams, instead of discussing the same old thing, find a way to compromise.