Ring Belts-are a paper belt-ask Michael Spinks

Are you kidding me? They own the ratings! Sure they have to stay PC when it comes to the obvious in order to sell magazines. But if you don't think they influence the ratings you are drinking Oscar's Kool Aid my friend. Just because they own the magazine, they don't make payoffs to influence GBP fighters get ranked higher. I'll ask again, what decisions have been made to suggest that GBP has a factor in the ratings. I'm waiting for it. Just because they own the magazine doesn't mean that it effects the ratings. They said when they bought it, it wouldn't happen and so far based off the changes, they haven't. So I'd like to know some examples.

The Ring belt may be paper but you can't just buy it by paying off some sanctioning body official. It is not availible to the highest bidder. They aren´t available to the best fighters of the division either. Vasquez made his mandatory defense against Caballero yet? Has he even fought a top ten super-bantamweight besides Rafa in the last four years? How about Hopkins. Dawson, Pascal, Cloud, Brähmer, Erdei? Anyone good under the age of 37? Maybe fight more than once a year? Manny gearing up for his title defense against Timonthy Bradley yet. Btw do ring title defenses have random blood testing? At least Wlad is fighting Chambers and Povetkin. Damn, those are alphabet mandatories. Ring Magazine is so awesome. :dance:

I'd like to know how GBP influences the ratings now. I'm waiting for answer. Are you kidding me? They own the ratings! Sure they have to stay PC when it comes to the obvious in order to sell magazines. But if you don't think they influence the ratings you are drinking Oscar's Kool Aid my friend.

I'd like to know how GBP influences the ratings now. I'm waiting for answer.

And Spinks' IBF title was declared vacant because he did not fight Tony Tucker, who at that time had not beaten anybody. Spinks chose to fight Gerry Cooney instead.

It's not a paper belt. Spinks kept his title because he was the linear heavyweight champion of the world. He was a terror at 175 lbs.

It's Irish Billy Collins just momemts after Resto beat him to near death with loaded gloves. I saw the fight and didnt even recognizance him. I remember that Billy Sr caught resto when he felt his glove, and Collins pretty much comitted suicide in a car accident. This is why i think Margarito shouldnt be reinstated.

Saw it on a unsolved mysteries board- it was an unknown body dont know if it was later identified. They confused it with a missings person but its OT It's Irish Billy Collins just momemts after Resto beat him to near death with loaded gloves.

Do you even know who that avatar is? Saw it on a unsolved mysteries board- it was an unknown body dont know if it was later identified. They confused it with a missings person but its OT

Yes sir.........dont want to end like that avator. I saw that avator before- it was a missing person case and i think the show unsolved mysteries covered it, dude i need to sleep with my teddy bear when i see that avator. Also the other dude has a scream guy scaring kids, I am getting nightmares already. Do you even know who that avatar is?

Currently GBP's owns RING Magazine and the RING Rankings. End of thread. Yes sir.........dont want to end like that avator. I saw that avator before- it was a missing person case and i think the show unsolved mysteries covered it, dude i need to sleep with my teddy bear when i see that avator. Also the other dude has a scream guy scaring kids, I am getting nightmares already.

Currently GBP's owns RING Magazine and the RING Rankings. End of thread.

Pavlik fought garbage ass Gary Lockett to keep his belt, not Mike Tyson. If you're gonna duck a fighter, then that's your choice. You shouldn't necessarily get stripped because of it. The sanctioning bodies have stripped actually legitimate champions because they refused to fight their terrible mandatory. I agree that there is alot of BS politics in all sanctioning bodies. Its up to the fighters if they want to fight their mandatory or not. Marvin Hagler and Thomas Hearns had the same issue. He wanted to fight Hearns but had a mandatory defense with Mustafo Hamsho- a guy he already beat; but fought him again due to the mandatory defense and than fought Hearns. But there are often cases when getting stripped is legit. Bowe ducked Lewis and he got stripped of a belt, Lewis ducked Ruiz and lost a belt, same i think happened to Foreman once. I do like the RIng part that they dont have any sanctioning fees but they dont have the resonsibilities that a true organization has. But the RIng Ratings system has been opened to scandal. The one back in 1976 almost crippled that publication when they got caught faking and elevating rankings for TV Rights and even their Ring Record Book had ficticious records. They were exposed with Don King and got kickbacks. So for Ring to say we made a belt to counter the corruption of the other bodies is like the Pot calling the kettle black.

So if you duck people than the belt has great credibility? Spinks ducked Tyson and got his rear end handed to him 90 seconds. Spinks lost his IBF belt by refusing to fight tyson but the Ring belt stayed in his waist. Even Pavlik decided to man up and fight to avoid getting stripped. Pavlik fought garbage ass Gary Lockett to keep his belt, not Mike Tyson. If you're gonna duck a fighter, then that's your choice. You shouldn't necessarily get stripped because of it. The sanctioning bodies have stripped actually legitimate champions because they refused to fight their terrible mandatory.

Spinks was a good LHW and is a hall of famer on his work on that division. I dont think he will have beaten jones at LHW. His wins against Holmes were debated, especially the second fight SD.

The Ring belt may be paper but you can't just buy it by paying off some sanctioning body official. It is not availible to the highest bidder. But it is available today to the best fighter associated with GBP.

The Ring belt may be paper but you can't just buy it by paying off some sanctioning body official. It is not availible to the highest bidder.

michael spinks is highly overrated, some real cunts here thinkin he could take on roy jones the guy was just too physically weak and against jones would be also too slow You are not even old enough to truly understand how dominate and powerful Spinks was at 175. Jones would actually be the weaker guy at 175 against Spinks. Prime RJJ and Michael Spinks would be an absolute pick em war at 175. Throw Archie Moore and Michael Moorer into the 175 mix and you have a classic 4 man tourney.

This is a stupid arguement. The Ring doesn't strip fighters because belts should be won and lsot in the ring. The WBA and others are absolute shit. Even now. So if you duck people than the belt has great credibility? Spinks ducked Tyson and got his rear end handed to him 90 seconds. Spinks lost his IBF belt by refusing to fight tyson but the Ring belt stayed in his waist. Even Pavlik decided to man up and fight to avoid getting stripped.

This is a stupid argument. The Ring doesn't strip fighters because belts should be won and lost in the ring. The WBA and others are absolute shit. Even now. Spinks beat Holmes, the legit heavyweight champion. He then became the heavyweight champion and that's how it happened. Spinks was the champ, like it or not.