Floyd Mayweather Jr. Himself has never accused Pacquaio of being on steroids. His father has, and they've asked him to be tested, but FLoyd would be tested too.
It doesn't meant anything but this way he say to Mayweather jr
you called for this fight, you are the challenger, I can say no when I feel I want to. Otherwise Go to hell :trink26:
yeah, but did roach not call Mayweather out of retirement? I thought, for real, that roach (not Pacquiao) was calling for a swan song of a fight with Mayweather before Manny retired.
IF...and I do not know it is true, but IF that is the case, then Mayweather is less the challenger and more someone who answered a challenge.
Correct me if I am wrong and I will accept it. Be obnoxious and I will return it in kind.
being the person that I am Mak, yes..I'm not being bias or taking anyone's side. That is just how I, V.Webb am. I want to prove ppl wrong every time they doubt me. As an athlete, I made a career of proving ppl wrong. I was a walk on in college and my school had 2 all american backs ahead of me and 2 other backs that they got who were on scholarship. They were "better than me". The coaches told me IF you are good enough you can get a scholarship so I HAD to prove it to them. They said I was too little to play running back, I worked my tail off and the other backs that came in with me, never even played...I ended up being the Player of the Year, All American, 2nd alll time leading rusher in my school's history. So for me, if I continue to do something and they keep doubting me, I want continue to prove them wrong. I'm not speaking for Floyd or Manny, that is just me. I've been raised since I was a kid to prove ppl wrong, and with my dad being a former world class athlete, he instilled that in me.
What a liar!
No athlete has ever found positive to this test because they use the Growth Hormone (HGH) during off season and the drug can only be detected within 24-48 hrs of using it. That is why Mayweather is asking for a longer span of time for the test. He is very smart and does not need the extra $M this fight might generate.
he is asking for a test that has never been administered before...you're asking a negotiations diva himself to become a guinea pig? its quite a risk
and yea, lets take manny out of the equation for a second...you do know that one of Bolt's own relay teammates was very disgruntled with that style of testing right? his own words included 'feeling weak' by race time...sounds familiar?
so its like this; you have the mayweathers constantly shitting and smearing everything PAC has done...and now you're gonna demand that he change his routine? that's a lot of pride to swallow
imagine if this whole time i kept accusing you being a heroin addict...withOUT any evidence...i just felt like saying it...and i downplayed everything you did because you were a heroin addict...then i TELL you to get tested for heroin so YOU can get me a payday...as a man of principle, would you be so quick to accommodate me?
being the person that I am Mak, yes..I'm not being bias or taking anyone's side. That is just how I, V.Webb am. I want to prove ppl wrong every time they doubt me. As an athlete, I made a career of proving ppl wrong. I was a walk on in college and my school had 2 all american backs ahead of me and 2 other backs that they got who were on scholarship. They were "better than me". The coaches told me IF you are good enough you can get a scholarship so I HAD to prove it to them. They said I was too little to play running back, I worked my tail off and the other backs that came in with me, never even played...I ended up being the Player of the Year, All American, 2nd alll time leading rusher in my school's history. So for me, if I continue to do something and they keep doubting me, I want continue to prove them wrong. I'm not speaking for Floyd or Manny, that is just me. I've been raised since I was a kid to prove ppl wrong, and with my dad being a former world class athlete, he instilled that in me.
Webb, there is no smoking gun...there is no manny pacquiao on a mitchell report...there is no manny pacquiao on a piece of paper from a BALCO trash can...there is no failed test in 11 years...
yes, Team PAC didn't handle the controversy with any media savvy...they're boxing guys...not an Alex Rodriguez defense/PR team...PAC is half a world away and isnt the easiest guy to get a hold of...by the time he got updated, the shit was already out of control and now the lawyers got involved
superfight: not at MGM on ppv...but on basic cable; CourtTV
just not happy about the whole situation...it makes the sport look bad...it actually makes the sport look at its worst since we have mainstream attention...just make the fight...tell all parties to STFU and get those two in the ring...
He hasn't failed a test in 11 years, so that should be even more reason to CONTINUE to take any every test to CONTINUE to prove that you are clean as a whistle and you are that good! Man I never tested positive for illegal stuff in college, but they KEPT testing me. I didn't take it as an insult, I just took the test and CONTINUED to prove that I was clean Mak.
But when an athlete REFUSES that sends the WRONG signals fam. Just imagine if they wanted to test Usain Bolt and he refused...you know how much cloud of suspicion that would be? I mean, he has passed all of his tests, but if you keep passing all your test then you up and refuse to take one, it does not LOOK good and you can be clean as a whistle. That is all I'm saying. I've been trying to look at this whole testing deal from an athlete's point of view, because I am an athlete. Do you see where I am coming from? Let's take Manny out of the equation for a second.
It doesnt mean spit in court.
Manny is not the Phillipines, and Floyd never said Pac was on steroids.
Case closed.
Dont bring logic into this conversation. People on here are emotional and irrational over this. Its gotten saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
Webb, i'm tired of the bullshit...i'm fukkin pissed that this fight isn't happening..i'm disgusted that they allowed floyd sr's 'opinion' kill this fight
they claim floyd is the best ever...they claim PAC would be easier than JMM...just fukking fight
GBP should have told Team Mayweather to shut the fukk up...concede to the blood tests that Team PAC agreed to and just make it all happen
you really think that they're tryin to clean up the sport? hell fukking naw
this was a smear campaign as much as mental tactics...and why? because floyd's daddy is still bitter for getting chumped in that hatton fight
if floyd is as great as he says and thinks he is, he would have won...after winning, he could have put the cherry on top by saying he beat a fighter that 'might' have been on something...and NOONE could have said shit...legacy added
and his dad could have talked allllll his shit too and noone could say anything...
instead, chalk up PAC's name as one of the fighters that WE ALL wanted floyd to fight but didn't...there are excuses for every fight not happening...but the bottomline is none of them happened
WTF did this dude come back for anyway? for marquez and matty hatton?
i can NOT wait til PAC's lawyers to 'david diaz' sr on the stand
and yea, the mamba strikes again...that's 3 in 40 days....why they dont double cover him in those situations is baffling
Sr can say what he wants, he is entitled to his opinion bro, rather we like it or not. To be honest, I let all that mess die after senior said what he did. I didn't go around saying Manny was on this or that because I won't accuse the man without proof. But, the comments from his team is what got me Mak, I'm being real with you. For Ariza to say that Manny doesn't know what he is taking strikes me as odd because I am an athlete and as an athlete in this day in time, you MUST know what you are taking. Then we heard a bunch of excuses as to why he didn't want to test, and that really didn't help Manny at all. Am I sticking up for Sr for what he said, no way, as I said I will not make accusations without proof, but the excuses and refusal from Manny and his camp didn't help this situation at all. That's as real as I can get fam.
can't wait to see crackhead sr stuttering and sweatin on that witness stand :dance:
dude you are better than all the crackhead this and that talk...at least I believe you are.
side note: 3 game winners for Kobe...:dance:
You need to stop dude... All you need to do is ask yourself this simple question "If the situation were reversed, what would I be saying about Mayweather" We pull these "Honor" cards and National Pride" cards all day. But in a nutshell it all sounds like excuses if you look at it from the other side. To me, Floyd has agreed to all Pacs demands (8 oz. gloves, ring size, purse split, 10 mill per pound) not to mention what we dont see.
My point is, we are all human, we are all sinners and Pac is not above any of us. Do you remember when Ariza said that Kahn and Pac are taking the same things? and Pac has no idea what he is taking... Do you think after all this stuff has come out that Pac has now asked Ariza "Hey man, what is it you're giving me?" Maybe he's not on PEDs, and if he is, Maybe he didnt know.. you ever thought of that?
if the shoe was on the other foot he would be bashing the mess out of Floyd. I mean he has said that Floyd hasn't done anything impressive since 2002....and if he did think what you said above, he would NEVER disclose it here on NSB.
PBF said he dont think Pac is on roids now dont he, but he wants manny to take one just in case. What is that supposed to mean? If he dont think he is on roids, dont ask him to take one, just like he didnt ask Hatton to take one.
Stop trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes now you are being sued.
so what if Mosley's team would have never checked Tony's gloves???
It means that you're making your judgment about Pacquiao based on assumptions and not facts. You gotta remember that this drug thing is Floyd's demand, its what he wants. So you're saying that if Pac doesn't give into Floyd's demands (without question), he's holding up the fight? Thats ridiculous and you know that. They've compromised on every detail of this fight, yet Floyd is unwilling to compromise on this? Why did Floyd come out with that press release, right in the middle of negotiations? He knew that coming out with this crap (before anything was even settled) would sabotage the fight and make Pac look responsible. Arum has given several deadlines for Floyd which shows they are willing to work this out, the fact that Floyd is not willing to budge on this shows me that he is trying to get out.
how can I make a judgment based on assumptions when it was Pac who wanted a 30 day cutoff from testing? you might as well not test at all, and it defeats the whole purpose of it being random...but you guys see no problem with Manny picking and choosing when he will take a.....RANDOM test...
There's a difference between common knowledge and being a lawyer. I don't know why some of you guys try to pass off something that is commonly known with being familiar with the law.
Saying he has a case, is about the same as saying he doesn't have a case if we use that viewpoint. Since probably nobody on NSB is a lawyer.
you are so in denial its not true. That radio quote is on tape, thousands have heard it. How does it help him and how was it a parody!? :crazy:
A lawyer would simply play all the other outrageous mess featured on the All-out show and the case would be thrown out.
Another angle that Ive yet to see discussed is what exactly did Pacquiao lose because of statements made by Mayweather? From September 09 to December of 09 how many companies dropped Manny Pacquiao?
Pacquiao is going to have to explain that to the court as well. THis whole thing is a desperation ploy by Pac.
PBF said he dont think Pac is on roids now dont he, but he wants manny to take one just in case. What is that supposed to mean? If he dont think he is on roids, dont ask him to take one, just like he didnt ask Hatton to take one.
Stop trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes now you are being sued.
to be fair, that was an on the spot reaction thing. that interview wasn't really scheduled... he also had no idea boxing fans would be talkin about it for months, lmao.
Some people don't plan to get angry at their wives and kill them.
"To be fair detective, I didn't plan it, it just happened, I got angry and stab her head"