"But theres no proof"

so how much does it cost now a days to call somebody who refuses to take drug tests a roider? Does it depend on who's calling you a roider? Honest question here. If you're serious, it depends on who you're accusing and who's being accused. If you accused me, it wouldn't matter that much and i probably wouldn't even be able to get a lawyer because a lawyer wouldn't waste his or her time with my case. They're going to say to me "what image, what reputation", and just laugh at me. I'm sure there are limitations on to what you can call or consider a slander and/or defamation of character. A known "crack addict" probably can't sue somebody for calling him or her a drug addict.

And do you know what a "contradiction" is? or a "lie"?? these are all documented might I add..If Pacquiaos camp goes into a courtroom and these contradictions over the back and forth pull me here pull you there shit over the blood tests, agree then disagree than SUE HIM HIM HIM THEM AND HIM comes up in front of a judge he may even dig himself a deeper hole than he is in now Do these contradictions affect Mayweather's own career? No. Do the lies affect Pacquaio's career? Perhaps millions. Can Pac win, I don't know but he has a bigger case than Mayweather

FFS, Pac has been tested in all his fights, all negative. he just had a test last November against cotto! and that is negative as well that may not be the proof you flomos want but that was good enough for NSAC, unless you want to put up your own FLOMOS Athletic Commission Scientific proof that PAC is roiding? None so far, only the garbage that comes out of the mayweathers big mouth Yeah and those flomos believing the crackhead Sr. is far worst than garbage!

YOu got to have credible and legit reason to doubt someone or to suspect someone using steroids in the first place. Manny gaining 20lbs in a span of 5 or even 6 yrs and getting stronger at the same time is not enough IMO. So this is still a baseless and false accusation. Being a murder suspect is completely different because you can't be a suspect without a smoking gun. There is no smoking gun in Manny's case, only one mans word or in this case slander. Its like a nursery nurse teacher accuses another nursery nurse teacher of being a phoedophile just cos hes jealous the other teacher is more popular with the children. And proceeds to ask the nursery nurse teacher for tests like being wired up to a monitor, while shown graphic images of children to see if activity in the lower regions. That would be going over board with paranoio wouldnt it be? Do you even think there are non paedophiles who would be happy to be subjected to those tests, even if they have nothing to hide. Bottom line PBF is jealous of Pacs achievements, therefore requesting the tests.

haha lol.. look, if someone is a suspect in a murder case theres a trial. if theres no evidence the person is released. same here. pac will take the tests if hes clean thats it, all suspicions are cleared and we have a fight YOu got to have credible and legit reason to doubt someone or to suspect someone using steroids in the first place. Manny gaining 20lbs in a span of 5 or even 6 yrs and getting stronger at the same time is not enough IMO. So this is still a baseless and false accusation. Being a murder suspect is completely different because you can't be a suspect without a smoking gun. There is no smoking gun in Manny's case, only one mans word or in this case slander.

....Thats pacquiao and the pactard's main defense here...My question...if there WAS proof wtf would a test be needed for? Proof meaning scientific evidence that recommends he is using? such as a positive test? What is proof? Proof in the case of a recommended PED test is SUSPICION! Was there proof when any one ever tested positive for steroids?? Thats exactly right, how the hell do you get proof without testing? Proof should be Manny walking away from the biggest money making fight in history because he refuses random testing. He says "I will take tests, but only when I say so". What kind of shiit is that? I strongly suspect him for taking steroids now that the fight is off.

....Thats pacquiao and the pactard's main defense here...My question...if there WAS proof wtf would a test be needed for? Proof meaning scientific evidence that recommends he is using? such as a positive test? What is proof? Proof in the case of a recommended PED test is SUSPICION! Was there proof when any one ever tested positive for steroids?? Do you know the haters proof? Mayweather's mouth. You want proof. You heard of NSAC(Nevada commision) has stated that Pac has passed all drug tests he took in Nevada.

....Thats pacquiao and the pactard's main defense here...My question...if there WAS proof wtf would a test be needed for? Proof meaning scientific evidence that recommends he is using? such as a positive test? What is proof? Proof in the case of a recommended PED test is SUSPICION! Was there proof when any one ever tested positive for steroids?? It's not that there is no proof that Pac is on PED's, rather there is no evidence that Pac is on PED's.

True but taking the test and beating Mayweather would change the majority of the doubters minds. Doubt in minds? who planted it? do you think it will be a very smart move? Why he has to lose so much for this fight? Is it worthy? Will he gamble years of hard work? mayweather jr will lose nothing, he wants to rob Pac of his hardwork Nobody care about his 0, he's not fighting for it for a long time. To make you 0 legitimate, you must fight the best

There is no evidence, is what I think people mean. And it's true, there isn't. Up until Mayweather Sr opened his mouth and called Pac a roider, no one said shit about it, then all of a sudden, all these little things start looking like proof. "That explains how he moved up in weight!" "**** ME, look how big his head is!" And so on. I'm not saying he isn't, i'm not saying he is. Personally, I don't buy into all the claims, but hey, a blood test would clean it all up.

You don't need proof to have an opinion, if we had proof Pac was cheating it would be a fact and not an opinion. everyone has an opinion. doesn't mean you can't be sued for it.

haha lol.. look, if someone is a suspect in a murder case theres a trial. if theres no evidence the person is released. same here. pac will take the tests if hes clean thats it, all suspicions are cleared and we have a fight but he's not on trial. the court in this case would be the nsac. if there's no trial , no need to testify. what floyd is doing , in your little analogy , would be the equivalent of some guy off the streets trying you for murder and telling you to go to his house to be judged. in which case you would say , "fuck off!"

But hes passed every tests he had. Surely that must count? If not what were all the tests for? Are his samples on ebay making someone money now? Lets say there isnt even a murder. But you accuse a man of being a murderer, without even having a murder case. If you was at a bus stop and accused a man sitting at the bus stop of being a murderer because he looked a bit dodgy, that would be wrong. Is all that Pac did wrong was beat people better than PBF wanted Pac to be beating people.? so why not take one more ? a more serious one. its their biggest fight so i think both sides should be interested in having pac and mayweather clean for the fight Nah i dont think one more is neccesary. Probably will probably taint his taint, and then he will be guilty.

But hes passed every tests he had. Surely that must count? If not what were all the tests for? Are his samples on ebay making someone money now? so why not take one more ? a more serious one. its their biggest fight so i think both sides should be interested in having pac and mayweather clean for the fight

haha lol.. look, if someone is a suspect in a murder case theres a trial. if theres no evidence the person is released. same here. pac will take the tests if hes clean thats it, all suspicions are cleared and we have a fight But hes passed every tests he had. Surely that must count? If not what were all the tests for? Are his samples on ebay making someone money now? Lets say there isnt even a murder. But you accuse a man of being a murderer, without even having a murder case. If you was at a bus stop and accused a man sitting at the bus stop of being a murderer because he looked a bit dodgy, that would be wrong. Is all that Pac did wrong was beat people better than PBF wanted Pac to be beating people.?

a hobo suddenly starts accusing your wife/gf/sister of being a tranny out of nowhere and demands that you show him her ...uhh you know as proof that she isn't one, would you do it? thats a retarted comparison :banana: but a funny one

just take the the test huh And mayweathers will stop the accusations? and world will say oh he pass the test he's clean you are totally wrong. Pac will never win in this accusation, some will say he is clean, some will say no. His legacy is tainted already Only court order will bring justice to Pac. his legacy is tainted because the mayweathers and the flomos say so besides his haters (floyd ass lickers) never acknowledged him as an elite fighter anyway manny never took this to court before he thought this was just the usual pre fight trash talk but like what he said, the mayweathers have gone overboard now you have floyd's homies shouting out Manny is a cheat, doper etc in Youtube... anyway, we will never agree on this...if you floyd fans thinks manny can't win then you must be very good with Law. I am not...it is not my field of expertise so I am not going to sound here like I am so knowledgeable on rhis subject I will just wait and see and I am supporting the pac all the way

just take the the test huh And mayweathers will stop the accusations? and world will say oh he pass the test he's clean you are totally wrong. Pac will never win in this accusation, some will say he is clean, some will say no. His legacy is tainted already Only court order will bring justice to Pac. True but taking the test and beating Mayweather would change the majority of the doubters minds.

haha lol.. look, if someone is a suspect in a murder case theres a trial. if theres no evidence the person is released. same here. pac will take the tests if hes clean thats it, all suspicions are cleared and we have a fight just take the the test huh And mayweathers will stop the accusations? and world will say oh he pass the test he's clean you are totally wrong. Pac will never win in this accusation, some will say he is clean, some will say no. His legacy is tainted already Only court order will bring justice to Pac.

FFS, Pac has been tested in all his fights, all negative. he just had a test last November against cotto! and that is negative as well that may not be the proof you flomos want but that was good enough for NSAC, unless you want to put up your own FLOMOS Athletic Commission Scientific proof that PAC is roiding? None so far, only the garbage that comes out of the mayweathers big mouth You don't need proof to have an opinion, if we had proof Pac was cheating it would be a fact and not an opinion.