holy shit check the end of the story
Note: I had to end the interview at this point. Fred was feeling very agitated at any mention of Manny Pacquiao and Performance Enhancing Drugs. I ask Fred if we could do the interview again in the afternoon. Upon returning to the WildCard Gym, Freddie become angry with me when I ask him if he had given an interview to a certain reporter. Fred told me in front of the entire Gym to stop telling him who he could and could not ****ing talk to. I was then told by Fred to leave the Gym.
No one has been a bigger advocate for Fred Roach as a human being and a boxing trainer. I have been pushing against the brick walls of the International Hall of Fame
for the last four years trying to get Fred inducted into the IBHOF. Maybe I went too far with my questions, maybe Fred was upset as he too stands to lose millions of dollars if the Mayweather fight is canceled. I pray that our friendship can be repaired over time.
This interview was taken verbatim from the tape which is in my possession.
If Pac is not on anything and it can't be detected, that gives them a bigger reason to take the random test.
He said HGH can't be detected in blood again! WTF!
He's going by what a Doctor from the NFL said Nit Wit and he himself even said he wasn't an expert on the subject. I'm pretty sure Freddie isn't making the shit up!
you guys are acting like itsa big deal for f reddie to argue with him because of the guys degrees, when freddie already said he has spoken to many doctors whom actually practice and dont conduct interviews with boxing trainers
:wtf1: You're joking right?
you guys are acting like itsa big deal for f reddie to argue with him because of the guys degrees, when freddie already said he has spoken to many doctors whom actually practice and dont conduct interviews with boxing trainers
this is for yall and mister tyler, the guy with is graduates degree and 30 years working with blood chemistry.........
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2008-05-27-hgh-cover_N.htm
this proves freddy right than the guy who is trying to say otherwise to freddie.......
this is from the side column of the article...........
AVAILABLE FOOD SUPPLEMENTS USED AS HGH RELEASERS
Pharmaceutical forms of human growth hormone releasers are available only through prescription or remain in the human-trial stage. But at some nutrition retailers and on dozens of websites, there is another form of HGH releaser: food supplements that cost a couple of dollars a day.
Some of these products, which go by names including GH Stak and Ageless Foundation, tout the same benefits as synthetic HGH.
"There seems to be increased marketing of these products around big events, like the Super Bowl and the Olympics," said Travis Tygart, chief executive officer of the United States Anti-Doping Agency. "We saw this at (the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City), and several companies marketed these products again before the 2004 Summer Games.
"We knew these products were being shipped directly to athletes in '04. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it happens again this summer."
Because these HGH releasers are nothing more than readily available amino acids, the building blocks of protein, the products don't run afoul of federal law or the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA).
"The HGH experts consulted by WADA strongly believe that amino-acid preparations cannot stimulate the HGH release strongly and substantially enough to have a doping effect," WADA spokesman Frederic Donze wrote in an e-mail.
A recent study by Syracuse University professor J.A. Kanaley showed that the main ingredient in most food-supplement HGH releasers, arginine, can spur the body's production of HGH when taken orally, although the effects are slight and not long-lasting.
The effectiveness of arginine is reduced when combined immediately with exercise, but makers of most HGH-releaser supplements advise taking the product before bedtime.
Gary Wadler, chairman of WADA's Prohibited List and Methods Subcommittee, said to get a sustained HGH boost from such supplements, a person would have to ingest such massive quantities that it would lead to a severe upset stomach or diarrhea.
That may not stop elite athletes, according to Nathan Piasecki, a member of the U.S. Greco-Roman wrestling team until a urine sample collected by USADA in January 2007 showed he'd tested positive for anti-estrogenic agents and a steroid. An announcement from USADA in October 2007 said Piasecki established that the positive test stemmed from his use of the over-the-counter food supplement 6-OXO, manufactured by Ergopharm.
"I feel most elite athletes are pretty scientific in their training," said Piasecki, whose two-year ban ends in February. "They know what's legal, and if (a supplement) makes them feel good, I have no doubt they'd continue to use it even if there were some bad side effects.
"Once you get to that level, you're going to do whatever possible to get something extra."
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration -- which has limited authority to investigate supplement companies after the passage of the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 -- hasn't cracked down on the maker of a food-supplement HGH releaser since 1999. FDA spokeswoman Susan Cruzan said the agency looks at all food-supplement products on a case-by-case basis.
PayPal, the online payment company owned by eBay, doesn't take the same approach. It prevents customers from purchasing HGH-releaser supplements, even if they are legal.
"If the product is marketed and claims to 'act like' or have the same effects as a prescription or illegal drug, we also generally prohibit it," PayPal spokeswoman Charlotte Hills wrote in an e-mail.
u inject HGH
why is Pacquiao refusing to take a blood test for the potential fight against Mayweather?
FR - Well, it's not really Manny but me,
ok first off i don't belive this manny run's the show the test is not being done because he does not want to, not because freddy does not want it ...
and even if it was true wh would he let his fighters reputation go down the toilet ?
Supplementary HGH can't be detected in blood as it is camouflaged by the automatic release of natural HGH.
So, how are you going to detect the replica against the natural ones?
By inference, replica HGH is very hard to detect especially if was taken before the exercise.
How is it HGH test done?
More than one blood sample must be taken on different days, due to rapid changing levels of growth hormone. A test measuring IGF-1 levels may be taken in conjunction, as its levels change much slower. Before blood is drawn, the administering health professional should be informed of any disorders or medication being taken which can lead to bleeding at the site of the puncture.
HGH isnt detected in blood.
Thx Roach.
You dig Pac a deeper hole everyday.
Supplementary HGH can't be detected in blood as it is camouflaged by the automatic release of natural HGH.
So, how are you going to detect the replica against the natural ones?
By inference, replica HGH is very hard to detect especially if was taken before the exercise.
this is for yall and mister tyler, the guy with is graduates degree and 30 years working with blood chemistry.........
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2008-05-27-hgh-cover_N.htm
this proves freddy right than the guy who is trying to say otherwise to freddie.......
this is from the side column of the article...........
AVAILABLE FOOD SUPPLEMENTS USED AS HGH RELEASERS
Pharmaceutical forms of human growth hormone releasers are available only through prescription or remain in the human-trial stage. But at some nutrition retailers and on dozens of websites, there is another form of HGH releaser: food supplements that cost a couple of dollars a day.
Some of these products, which go by names including GH Stak and Ageless Foundation, tout the same benefits as synthetic HGH.
"There seems to be increased marketing of these products around big events, like the Super Bowl and the Olympics," said Travis Tygart, chief executive officer of the United States Anti-Doping Agency. "We saw this at (the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City), and several companies marketed these products again before the 2004 Summer Games.
"We knew these products were being shipped directly to athletes in '04. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it happens again this summer."
Because these HGH releasers are nothing more than readily available amino acids, the building blocks of protein, the products don't run afoul of federal law or the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA).
"The HGH experts consulted by WADA strongly believe that amino-acid preparations cannot stimulate the HGH release strongly and substantially enough to have a doping effect," WADA spokesman Frederic Donze wrote in an e-mail.
A recent study by Syracuse University professor J.A. Kanaley showed that the main ingredient in most food-supplement HGH releasers, arginine, can spur the body's production of HGH when taken orally, although the effects are slight and not long-lasting.
The effectiveness of arginine is reduced when combined immediately with exercise, but makers of most HGH-releaser supplements advise taking the product before bedtime.
Gary Wadler, chairman of WADA's Prohibited List and Methods Subcommittee, said to get a sustained HGH boost from such supplements, a person would have to ingest such massive quantities that it would lead to a severe upset stomach or diarrhea.
That may not stop elite athletes, according to Nathan Piasecki, a member of the U.S. Greco-Roman wrestling team until a urine sample collected by USADA in January 2007 showed he'd tested positive for anti-estrogenic agents and a steroid. An announcement from USADA in October 2007 said Piasecki established that the positive test stemmed from his use of the over-the-counter food supplement 6-OXO, manufactured by Ergopharm.
"I feel most elite athletes are pretty scientific in their training," said Piasecki, whose two-year ban ends in February. "They know what's legal, and if (a supplement) makes them feel good, I have no doubt they'd continue to use it even if there were some bad side effects.
"Once you get to that level, you're going to do whatever possible to get something extra."
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration -- which has limited authority to investigate supplement companies after the passage of the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 -- hasn't cracked down on the maker of a food-supplement HGH releaser since 1999. FDA spokeswoman Susan Cruzan said the agency looks at all food-supplement products on a case-by-case basis.
PayPal, the online payment company owned by eBay, doesn't take the same approach. It prevents customers from purchasing HGH-releaser supplements, even if they are legal.
"If the product is marketed and claims to 'act like' or have the same effects as a prescription or illegal drug, we also generally prohibit it," PayPal spokeswoman Charlotte Hills wrote in an e-mail.
REACHING! U copied and pasted all that BS and it has absolutely nothing to do with HGH and other PEDs. :nonono:
LOL i couldn't believe what i was reading!! :lol1: , and it was so funny how the reporter owned "Roach the joke" too, the whole of the Pac camp are mad and clearly have something to hide, Manny needs to stop being a damn coward and take the tests.
I'm happy that the dude didn't let Roach slip that one through, he was a bit agressive and I like that.
He said HGH can't be detected in blood again! WTF!
LOL i couldn't believe what i was reading!! :lol1: , and it was so funny how the reporter owned "Roach the joke" too, the whole of the Pac camp are mad and clearly have something to hide, Manny needs to stop being a damn coward and take the tests.
I think he's mainly fighting for checks now since he did that prison time. That messed him up. Pernell Whitaker is his trainer.
Here are some vids with him sparring with Floyd years ago.
I have a few of his fights on my hard drive, especially when he faced Manfredy. The dude is that skilled. He has lost alot of his athletic ability but he has a really high ring IQ.
Maybe Freddie is talking about HGH because that's one of the things people say Pacquiao is on.
I have no reason to believe Pacquiao is on steroids, and I'm not gonna believe he is just because his team has handled the situation poorly.
He's never tested positive for any steroid or PED. Regardless of what people may think, he hasn't gotten that much bigger. Sr.'s accusations were baseless and done out of spite. Freddie seems like an emotional guy, if I were him or Pacquiao I'd be pissed too. After over a decade of fighting, accomplishing so much, training hard for every fight, risking your life in the ring, Sr. comes along and says some ****in' foul shit to slander him. I kinda want Pacquiao to take the tests to shut everyone up, but I can see where he's coming from, too: Why should I comply to a man's request who basically insulted me and tried to tarnish years or hard work, I don't need to listen to him, he's not my boss.
Oi
What is next for Paul Spadafora?
I think he's mainly fighting for checks now since he did that prison time. That messed him up. Pernell Whitaker is his trainer.
Here are some vids with him sparring with Floyd years ago.