No one thought boxing would survive after Dela Hoya, but with Pacquiao around, boxing is back in contention and continues to thrive.
When Manny retires, who are the fighters that will carry boxing with huge fan base and following enough to keep the sport alive until the next superstar arrives.
Until another boxer shows up with the same skill, explosiveness and ferocity as Manny most fight fans will turn to MMA to look for excitement they look for in a fight.
Boxing will forever have a place in American culture, and I don't see that changing ever.
With that said, the fact of the matter is that for people, like myself...who are simply fight fans, and fans of both sports...who just like to see a competitive scrap...fight fans are flocking to MMA (The UFC in particular) because there are more quality matchups between elite fighters, more often.
Let's be honest here, boxing cards, for the most part are crap. Though that has changed a lot in 2009, and more quality top to bottom cards have been made...for the most part, when you have a main event that can sell on its own, boxing promoters do not feel that it is important to load the rest of the card up with quality fights.
Sure, the main event might be great, but does a fan really feel like he or she is getting their money's worth paying $60 essentially for one fight?
The UFC and other quality MMA promotions like Strikeforce are often filled from top to bottom with several top level fighters...and on a more frequent basis than boxing.
I understand that its much easier to make fights when all of the fighters are under one umbrella.
after the exciting boxer is retired, boxing will go back to being boring
well there is matthew hatton who will be the future p4p fighter to make it interesting
Time to change your name to FAILishere.
why can't you admit mainstream america is not into boxing anymore and the reason it is still alive is because of latinos and other minorities who have boxers they want to suceed here in america.
Americans do not support their boxers that much unlike before. Moseley vs Margarito; Marquez vs Mayweather; Pacquiao vs Cotto; those are hit fights because latinos are involved. Bradley vs Peterson; Dawson vs Johnson; Calzaghe vs Hopskins; these fights are great but they stink in the box office because no minority fighters are involved.
Get your facts straight before you spit your opinion out of your ass.
Mainstream america? Try WHITE mainstream america.
I've been following MMA long before you have buddy. I've participated in it and know what's up.
You're a retard that is ignoring ethnicity = AMERICANS.. Latinos support boxers in droves and big boxing still outdoes UFC PPVs.
Are latinos IN AMERICA not American?
I guess you would have that kind of reasoning being that you are a UFC fan a sport that regularly features retarded Neo nazis as a fan base.
you are like saying watching NBA is not watch basketball???
Liking UFC and hating the rest of MMA is not liking MMA. And the UFC barely qualifies with their ****** rule restrictions.
I'm saying the UFC is more WWE than sport.
Not even or toughman would be popular. UFC is was more violent before the Unified rules. Nope, UFC is a cleverly marketed product that picked up the trash franbase that went from pro wrestling to poker now onto this fad.
And let's not lie, no one you know watches MMA. They watch UFC.
Time to start being honest about the differences.
you are like saying watching NBA is not watch basketball???
No one thought boxing would survive after Dela Hoya, but with Pacquiao around, boxing is back in contention and continues to thrive.
When Manny retires, who are the fighters that will carry boxing with huge fan base and following enough to keep the sport alive until the next superstar arrives.
Until another boxer shows up with the same skill, explosiveness and ferocity as Manny most fight fans will turn to MMA to look for excitement they look for in a fight.
Dude its all apples and oranges, different people like different things.
i watch both. people i knew watch MMA because they tend to get bored watching sweet science. casual fans want to see blood and action in a fight.
Not even or toughman would be popular. UFC is was more violent before the Unified rules. Nope, UFC is a cleverly marketed product that picked up the trash franbase that went from pro wrestling to poker now onto this fad.
And let's not lie, no one you know watches MMA. They watch UFC.
Time to start being honest about the differences.
No one thought boxing would survive after Dela Hoya, but with Pacquiao around, boxing is back in contention and continues to thrive.
When Manny retires, who are the fighters that will carry boxing with huge fan base and following enough to keep the sport alive until the next superstar arrives.
Until another boxer shows up with the same skill, explosiveness and ferocity as Manny most fight fans will turn to MMA to look for excitement they look for in a fight.
You aren't an MMA fan. Stop lying. You are a UFC fan. Probably drunken redneck racist KKK loving trash. :)
As of Sept. 2 2009 - Total bouts by Decade.
Decade breakdown:
1840s: 3
1850s: 8
1860s: 56
1870s: 156
1880s: 2,614
1890s: 10,433
1900s: 25,275
1910s: 61,756
1920s: 183,065
1930s: 185,131
1940s: 172,159
1950s: 137,986
1960s: 91,802
1970s: 96,724
1980s: 126,662
1990s: 137,718
2000s: 173,752
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=101907
More fights = more fighters = better fighters.
This decade will have the most fights by decade since the 1930's, from the actual data and not your bullshit logic the sport is actually doing better now then it has for a long time.
You are free to go and properly fukk yourself now.
Do you like boxing, or do you masturbate to Tranny Pak-Yow?
Timothy Bradley, Victor Ortiz, Arreola, Peterson brothers, Willams, Martinez, Andre Ward,etc.
This is proof of what I said about pinoy boxing fans all along. Once Tranny Manny retires this site will return to normal because they don't love boxing, they love Manny.
I agree. There's still alot of young fighters out there, ready to carry on boxing. Andre Ward is going to be exciting to follow. And I think Maidana, Ortiz, Bradley, Williams, Martinez, Dawson and on and on and on also will be great.
I'm sure they said the same thing about boxing when DLH was the main attraction. Pac came out of nowhere. When Pac's done, some one else will come up...
Boxing will not die anytime soon. If anyone got the February issue of the Ring Magazine, William Dettloff wrote an awesome article talking about how boxing won't die titled, "A Look Ahead to 2010."
Before Pacquiao's rise and boxing's subsequent resurgence, boxing was proclaimed "dead". I see that to be boxing's lowest point, one which it may hit again after Pacquiao's retirement.
The thing about boxing being "dying" though, is that I could care less if it "dies". I could care less about how much time boxing gets on Sports center.. Lets get these dumb people to stop talking about Mayweather/Pacquiao when they have no idea what they're talking about. (Have you heard Skip Bayless debate boxing?) MMA fans, go ahead and buy those UFC fights and debate boxing/ufc. We have the vocal minority of UFC fans vs the silent majority of boxing fans. Lets rewind time to two years ago. PPV sales were still doing well, my boxing gym was still full (probably more filled than now after MP and Money May have blown up), and there were a handful of entertaining fights to watch, even if it never made the paper and the mainstream public never gave a ****..
So who cares about MMA/Boxing.
Who cares if boxing doesn't keep up it's recent string of success? As a fan, I've learned not to expect much with these sanctioning bodies and corrupt promoters. But fighters come and go, and I can expect another great one to "revive" the sport, even with the dirty politics of the sport.
I also find it ironic that what I think to be the main reason for the fall of boxing, PPV, is the platform on which UFC has risen....
news on the web majority is about pacquiao. writers/bloggers are writing about pacquiao expecting hits. they use pacmans name even if it have nothing to do with him. pacfans are fair game because they are so many. writers who are not used to write about boxing started to venture on it because of pacfan hits thus the resurgence of the popularity of the red light district of sports. celebs is being attracted into boxing because of the buzz about the asian kid who is knocking down opponents who barely clinches, who, the words " knock me and you win" is written all over his style of fighting. boxing is supposed to be "hit for hit and fall for fall" thats why people in all walks of life in the early years is up to date on fights because of the excitement of seeing two gladiators in the ring.
STUPID THREAD...U do know they said Boxing would die after Ali,Duran,Tyson,Oscar retired? After Pac is gone another fool will right an article how Boxing is dead an then another guy will rise up an then when he's ready to reitre another fool will right the same thing. U do know that b4 2002 NO ONE knew who Pac was. Same will happen here there is a cat right now no one knows of that will rise up an be a star. HISTORY PROVES IT. MMA HAS NOTHING TO DO W BOXING!