NSAC will decide if blood testing is required(LA Times story)

Finally it's not up to promoters or Mayweathers crack head friends!!!! http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/12/manny-pacquiao-floyd-mayweather-boxing-1.html Manny Pacquiao's promoter makes 'final counteroffer' for drug testing December 27, 2009 | 11:19 am Bob Arum, Manny Pacquiao's promoter, this morning unveiled what he says is his "final counteroffer" to get an agreement between his boxer and hopeful opponent Floyd Mayweather Jr. for a March 13 bout that could be the most lucrative in the sport's history. Arum said he wants an agreement from Mayweather and his promoter, Richard Schaefer of Golden Boy Promotions, by Monday or he'll "finish negotiations" for a Pacquiao replacement fight against Paulie Malignaggi. Arum's offer is for each fighter to submit to unlimited random urinalysis, and to let the Nevada State Athletic Commission to determine at its Jan. 19 meeting whether additional blood testing is required beyond Pacquiao's current agreement to allow his blood to be tested 30 days before the bout and immediately after its conclusion. "We will allow Golden Boy to present experts to the commission to explain why additional testing is required, and we'll explain our position," Arum said. "Then we'll let the Nevada commission decide. If Nevada says we need to do more testing, we'll do more, but if they don't, we won't." The fight would take place at MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas if it were to occur. "Nevada is the one who should have the say, not the fighters," Arum said. He added that striking an agreement on this point would allow the fighters to sign contracts -- both are expected to receive a guaranteed $25 million with pay-per-view upside -- and begin promoting the fight early next month before the commission decides the matter. Schaefer was not immediately available for comment. Contacted by The Times on Saturday night, Keith Kizer, executive director of the commission, said the agency was prepared "to do what we do with the urine testing," but would consider additional testing procedures if the promoters petitioned. "I'm pleased with our processes as they are now. They were good enough for Pacquiao- Cotto and for Mayweather- Marquez ." Arum said he just wants state regulators to decide the testing policy, not have it mandated by Mayweather's team. Mayweather said in a statement this month that he wanted to ensure a level playing field, and his camp proposed allowing the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency to monitor blood tests. The head of that agency said Pacquiao's resistance to take a blood test closer than 30 days from the first bell was not acceptable for effective anti-doping procedures. "If the commission says both fighters have to give blood as they're walking into the ring, we'll do it," Arum said. "But I want the commission saying it, not some outside group with an agenda. If they say no to this, that shows they don't want the fight." -- Lance Pugmire this should have been done from the very beginning. i believe NSAC than Floyd Mayweather Sr. Nevada State Athletic Commision confirms that Pacquioa is clean

Make blood tests for every title fight, not just this one. Floyd is acting all entitled when he's fought under Nevada's rules plenty of times. This makes it appear like Floyd lacks confidence against the Manny Pacquiao he's been watching.

i say let the experts decide how they do the testing and stop all speculations. they know better, and lets all hope the fight will be on. everybody wants to see this fight.

Good move by Arum, Floyd now has to present the case to the NASC why they need blood testing up until the day of the fight like he wanted. Floyd will have to prove by results, that someone passed a urine test, but failed a blood test. He's ****ed, and he'll just look stupid. He was going off complete hearsay and rumors. We all know how floyd stutters and looks stupid when he isnt reading off a script, the panel will own him. Itd be nice if Sr also tried to stutter his case.

You are all over the place, asking for stronger drug testing is not an unreasonable demand in this day and age of athletics. yes its not unreasonable demand if the circumstance is ordinary. but its not ordinary. boxings already have sets of rules, thats including the process by which fighters will be tested for prohibited substances and the ones mandated to supervise for this fight is the NSAC, why change the rules now? if they wanted it in the contract both parties should agree to it before it can be enforced. but in this case pacquiao refused for whatever reasons so i believe he has the rights to do so because they are still negotiating. but the problem is members of the other party already go out to the press insinuating about the reason why manny refused is because he is hiding something (short of telling manny really is on roids, but have the same implications) thats the reason for the impending slander case against that other party. people forget that since NSAC rules doesnt require the kind of testing being demanded/requested, pacquiao cannot be expected to just bend over when instructed. pacquiao has his "RIGHTS OF REFUSAL" is that hard to respect? well in this case i dont really expect the mayweathers to know what paying respect to is. arrogance is their middle name. floyd fans do have same mentality, "they drink from a poisonous well, what can you expect"?

I see manny refuses unreasonable, and intrusive requests and he's the one holding up the show. Floyd demands that the first 3 rounds be scored 10-9 in his favor, Manny says no, and I bet you would still say Manny is holding up the show. Outstanding logic! You are all over the place, asking for stronger drug testing is not an unreasonable demand in this day and age of athletics.

yes they can demand anything. doesn't mean they'll get it though. you can't demand anything from pacquiao. pacquiao's team play hardball in negotiations. hard to win anything against them. I did say that he could say no which he did and that is what has lead to this whole ordeal. It would have been a lot easier to just say yes if you ask me but whatever. It hurts both guys basially the same if the fight does not happean, it hurts Manny in that some people will question but his fans don't really care other then that they both lose out on a huge payday but both dudes will still get paid fighting whoever so how much does that really hurt aslong as they both fihgt a couple times. I will say it makes me want to see the random bloodtest more jsut to know one way or the other.

And so can PAC. Tell me again why just last year ,Schaefer said, that any other type of drug testing should be left up to NSAC ?? Now, they're being given their own medicine, what now ? So you dont want Pac to be tested for drugs? You prefer that he knows when the test is coming so he can study for it?

They do not take that much blood to test, it is also the most accurate at detecting PED. It would take 5 minutes at most 5 times from 8 week(minus a couple days before the fight), once almsot every two weeks is not that much. You do not know what Floyd's camp was thinking and that is why you think there is some crazy conspriacy behind the request. Floyd has been trying to make this fight happean from the jump while Manny has been making things difficult. They should walk away if thier demand is not met, but that is a lot of money to just walk away from. Continue making excuses for Manny if you want but he is the reaosn this fight will not happean. I see manny refuses unreasonable, and intrusive requests and he's the one holding up the show. Floyd demands that the first 3 rounds be scored 10-9 in his favor, Manny says no, and I bet you would still say Manny is holding up the show. Outstanding logic!

Does that mean that you're accusing Schaefer of the same thing, when he objected to Zab's demand that Shane be blood tested ? I dont give a **** about Shane Mosley everyone knows he's a steroid cheat too, What does that have to do with this thread? We're talking about Mayweather and Pac not Steroid Mosley.

Because they demanded it in the contract, they can demand whatever they desire. All Manny had to do was say yes and the fight would have happeaned and no one would be talking about this issue, instead he said no which he can but fighting drug testing in this day and age just raises red flags and raises more suspicion which should be a well known fact. yes they can demand anything. doesn't mean they'll get it though. you can't demand anything from pacquiao. pacquiao's team play hardball in negotiations. hard to win anything against them.

It is when the whole point of choosing this style of drug testing is also the most intrusive to the opposing fighters camp thus causing distraction. It's obvious that Floyd's camp did not have good intentions when they demanded this style of drugtesting. Why do you think they are already compromising! If their demands were that important then why compromise. Just walk away then!! They do not take that much blood to test, it is also the most accurate at detecting PED. It would take 5 minutes at most 5 times from 8 week(minus a couple days before the fight), once almsot every two weeks is not that much. You do not know what Floyd's camp was thinking and that is why you think there is some crazy conspriacy behind the request. Floyd has been trying to make this fight happean from the jump while Manny has been making things difficult. They should walk away if thier demand is not met, but that is a lot of money to just walk away from. Continue making excuses for Manny if you want but he is the reaosn this fight will not happean.

You cant debate these people when most are 12 yr olds ,,, the mods should try and regulate this board a little better than they do . Ok lets debate! Why should a fighter be able to pick and choose who does the drug testing and how it's done? Especially when there is a neutral party already availiable who is sanctioning the fight by the way and has more experience at drug testing boxers than any other sports comission in the world. If I was as diluted as the Flomos on this board I would say it's reasonable to be suspecious of Floyd himself. Something is fishy when a boxers demands a drug test be administerd a certin way.

You just keep spouting the hyperbole, asking for better drug testing is not an unreasonable request. It is when the whole point of choosing this style of drug testing is also the most intrusive to the opposing fighters camp thus causing distraction. It's obvious that Floyd's camp did not have good intentions when they demanded this style of drugtesting. Why do you think they are already compromising! If their demands were that important then why compromise. Just walk away then!!

Floyd is clearly ducking if he doesn't accept these terms for the possible testing. It's more than fair as its being done by a neutral party. Hopefully Floyd will surprise us and step up!

Dude give me a break.. Arum and Pac know damn well that Nevada will NOT make him take a blood test. Why do you think they're leaving it up to the commission? Pac doesn't want to fight Floyd without the steroids and that's the bottom line.. You can say whatever you want. If he was clean he would have no problem taking the blood tests. Ugh I see so having a problem with Floyds camp dictating when and by who Pac gets tested by means he is automatically guilty. You should change your name from markfrombrooklyn to hi i'm stupid. Nevermind that the decision should be left to a nuetral party that only has fair play in mind and not a group cherrypicked by one of the fighters camps.

Exactly Floyd might as well be asking for his dad and two uncles to be the judges for the match. I'm sure the flomos would find some stupid argument to consider this request reasonable. You just keep spouting the hyperbole, asking for better drug testing is not an unreasonable request, it does not matter if the reason he asked for it is baseless or not. Not in this day and age anyways.

I'm waiting for all the Flomo fans to come up with an excuse for this one! so basically Pacquiao is doing to do whatver testing NSAC orders.... but refuses play by Mayweather's rules... I like it... thanks for posting this

Oh I see so taking Floyd SR's misguided comments as reasonable requests isn't being naive? http://gadgetsteria.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/facepalm.jpg Floyd Sr. comments were baseless and the only thing I ever said about them is I do not find ANY athlete being on PED to be farfetched. The reson for asking for the test was baseless but in this day and age it is still a reasonable request. Manny actions have raised only more red flags.

No one is hiring a gov't affiliated agency to do the testing. They just want NSAC to make the decision on what is appropiate and not the opposing camp, lmao. So, what is your alternative, for Mo**ey Mayweather to decide on how and who does the testing for PAC ? lmao Exactly Floyd might as well be asking for his dad and two uncles to be the judges for the match. I'm sure the flomos would find some stupid argument to consider this request reasonable.