Pac Fans Can Say What They Want But.....

Dont come in here calling names. I didnt call you one so dont disrespect me. Im not a flomo and I never respond to that shit. Any thread that is titled flomos, I have never ever been in and I never well well since you put it that way. i'm sorry for being an ass. green k for you

I dont care how good you think his resume is, that shit is incomplete like hell if he retires without Floyd. We all know people dont like Floyd anyways so that shit dont matter. Pac is going to retire as an ATG but everyone will still look back and say that he had the undefeated other P4P #1 guy in his era and he didnt fight him. People will wonder 20 years from now why the fight never came off and the answer will be that Pac didnt want to take a steroids test. How does that shit sound? I dont care if you are a die hard Pac fan, you know what I just said is true as hell. No one will still forget that name, espically if Floyd retires undefeated. Everyone will remember that they were scheduled to fight but there were suspicions about Pac using steroids. The opponent Mayweather agreed to take stringent steroid test but Pac wouldnt. Then you add in the fact that as good as Pac is and as good as he can be, there is still a ceiling to his legacy. If he beats Floyd then there is no ceiling. People are crazy when they say that this shit is one sided and that Floyd is the only guy who needs it. Pac needs that shit too, espically if you add in him never fighting a black guy who was a threat. You cant let history look back and say that he didnt take this fight because he didnt want to take a stringent steroid test, espically when his opponent is also an ATG, P4P Champ, who is undefeated, and he agreed to take the same exact test. That shit dont look good looking back, no matter how you spin it Manny does not duck anybody, team pac already agreed to be blood tested they just dont want the initial plan of the US anti-drug agency of doing 7 random blood test for the entire training sked and upto the night of the fight, that is ridiculous, manny always spent atleast 8weeks of training prior to a fight, so thus this mean that he has to subject himself to be blood tested almost every week during training?! I think thats asking too much from a person who has no record of any wrong doing even before he step his foot on american soil 5 or 7 years ago. I mean what drug can't a first world lab can detect in 7days that you cannot detect from a 30days blood test, i think theres not much difference. But i think evetually manny will just agree to everything just to get back at all the haters and **** you all in your faces!!

PAC doesn't need mayweather. Pac shits on him PAC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bitch FLoyd

I dont care how good you think his resume is, that shit is incomplete like hell if he retires without Floyd. We all know people dont like Floyd anyways so that shit dont matter. Pac is going to retire as an ATG but everyone will still look back and say that he had the undefeated other P4P #1 guy in his era and he didnt fight him. People will wonder 20 years from now why the fight never came off and the answer will be that Pac didnt want to take a steroids test. How does that shit sound? I dont care if you are a die hard Pac fan, you know what I just said is true as hell. No one will still forget that name, espically if Floyd retires undefeated. Everyone will remember that they were scheduled to fight but there were suspicions about Pac using steroids. The opponent Mayweather agreed to take stringent steroid test but Pac wouldnt. Then you add in the fact that as good as Pac is and as good as he can be, there is still a ceiling to his legacy. If he beats Floyd then there is no ceiling. People are crazy when they say that this shit is one sided and that Floyd is the only guy who needs it. Pac needs that shit too, espically if you add in him never fighting a black guy who was a threat. You cant let history look back and say that he didnt take this fight because he didnt want to take a stringent steroid test, espically when his opponent is also an ATG, P4P Champ, who is undefeated, and he agreed to take the same exact test. That shit dont look good looking back, no matter how you spin it Guess what, Judah is the best black guy on pbf's resume. David diaz decision him at amateurs & Cotto beat the crap out of him. so STFU!

Mayweather won't get much credit for beating Pacquiao because Pacquiao already got stopped twice and decisioned once. Mayweather should fight winner of Berto-Mosley, Khan, and Pavlik at 160 then retire. If not Pavlik then Williams at 154. dream on... you wish Floyd would fight them...

you dumb flomo. pac doesnt need pbf. pbf needs manny, mosley, cotto, margarito Dont come in here calling names. I didnt call you one so dont disrespect me. Im not a flomo and I never respond to that shit. Any thread that is titled flomos, I have never ever been in and I never well

you dumb flomo. pac doesnt need pbf. pbf needs manny, mosley, cotto, margarito

Oh shit i was clueless when you wrote that shit. BTW if this fight does not get made who would you want to see manny fight? My choices would be Perro, Mosley, Bradley, and maybe Williams. Those would be good fights. I dont want him to fight paulie that would be a shitty fight Actually, Im always in the minority in this but I dont mind when guys have a lesser fight at times. I mean he just fought Cotto not too long ago, his whole mindset was on Floyd, the fight is very close, and he has to start campaigning. If you arent fighting Floyd then IDK if you want a super hard fight in place of that with all those factors weighing in. Im acutally a huge Paulie fan but I thought he was better pre Cotto. He's alot better now than he was when he fought Hatton but I dont think he's as good as he use to be and I obviously dont think he grew like he was supposed to. Basically, Im honeslty ok with anyone Pac wants to fight right now

i knew you were drunk when i read your funny ass post. DMV? 45 AND 13? wtf is that man. you should write an e book so i can put that shit in my ipod The DMV is the DC, Maryland, VA area. Thats what we call it around here now since its all so close together. I was talking about Gilbert Arenas going for 45 points and 13 assist the other night when he came back home. IDK if youre a hoops fan though

Good mother****ing read DLT. You are a great poster and that was a great post. I enjoy your novels and you basically wrote what I was thinking but this thread just threw me of on your view on Manny but I see were you are coming from and what you mean. yeah i am from Oakland. were else? I agree with the link and your post but I dont agree with this thread though bro. you need to reanalyze your assessment with regards to this thread because that race card shit is old. we both know manny would dust the floor with any of the guys you mentioned Im just buzzing the **** out tonight because Im loaded and I want this fight to happened. The other day I didnt really care much about it and I thought it was ok if Pac fought Paulie and maybe Foreman while Floyd fought Bradley & Mosley and then they could meet at the very end of the year but now it seems like it needs to happened again. Im cool either way though. I asked you about your hood because Im from the DMV and I was just rewatching Arenas drop 45 & 13 on yall. lol

I know bro. you are with manny the way i am with floyd. i want floyd to fight a top welterweight yet i think he would beat any welterweight including manny but i just want to see it though did you click the link though? Shit is probably too long anyways. Where you from anyways? Oakland? Do you like the Warriors?

you are not a hater. i have read your threads were you give manny mad props but bringing race into this is bullshit and i cant begin to even tell you why. Read my other post with the link to it. Again, I pretty much pick him against anyone. I just said in a different thread that I think he knocks Bradley the **** out but I would like to see him against one of them before he goes. Floyd will do though if they can get that to work

If you guys think Im a hater then read this. I always try to be fair to everyone and look at things from both sides but some people get to the point where they dont think you can say anything negative about a guy. Come on now. He aint perfect. I rip on Floyd too where alot of his fans dont but Im also fair to him http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=341833

Pacquio did not choose anyone; his trainer and his promotional company choose his opponents. come on bro if he would have fought the guys you mentioned cats would still be hating because he didnt fight the ones that he did beat. man i thought you were the most reasonable poster on this site. i still respect you though Dont nobody hate Pac except some Floyd fans. Everyone gives Pac mad props. Im not singling him out personaly. I dont think Pac himself fears anyone but the fact is this is who he's fought. You dont think black people think about that? Its like having an NBA or NFL team nowdays with no black players. How can that happened. As of now Im starting to think that the only one he will fight is Floyd and thats because of the money and the fact that the fight is pretty unavoidable. Seriously though, you dont think people wanted to see a Guzman or Casamayor fight instead of that 2nd and definatly 3rd EM fight. You dont think people wanted to see those fights instead of Larios, Solis, Velaquez? When he moved up to LW, you dont think people wanted to see him fight Campbell or the other 2? Now Roach is talking about Floyd, Foreman, and then retirment. No doubt he's put in work but I dont think that resume is the legendary status that everyone thinks it is

maybe if you were black you would feel differntly. I cant believe people overlook that when the sport has so many great black fighters and always has. Even Iceta is starting to come around on it He has fought black fighters before. So again what are you talking about... I have black family members and friends who are Pac fans and don't feel the same way you do. Why are you trying to make into a race. And, I don't care what Iceta says he hates on everybody anyways. You right now being a hater bro. Is all good enjoy your night bro.

DLT I thought you was a more sensible poster... I can't believe everything you wrote in this thread. I am disappointed in you bro... maybe if you were black you would feel differntly. I cant believe people overlook that when the sport has so many great black fighters and always has. Even Iceta is starting to come around on it

Come on now. He clearly always went past Guzman, Campbell, Casamayor, and so on. Then at WW he talked about Mosley-Cotto but he clearly was only looking at Cotto the whole way. Then a ton of these cats he fought were coming off of recent losses or didnt look the same and he still fought them and got mad credit for it. Raheem shuts EM out and no one cares but they still let Pac fight him next and everyone goes insane when Pac stops him. Now EM has lost 3 out of 4 fights, including being shutout twice in a row and stopped in one of them but they still let him have a 3rd fight with Pac and we already knew what was going to happened. Pac stops him again and everyone goes insane like he is a GOD. Nevermind that Raheem just totally shut him out. That same dead EM moves up and loses a super tight fight to Diaz and many think he won. That tells you how bad Diaz is and Pac chose to fight him over the other good black fighters, or even Juan Diaz. No one cares and everyone goes crazy again. Thats why alot of the fighters hate on him because they think he gets credit for doing stuff that other cats get hated on for. They also think alot of his stuff is overhyped while theres is underrated and that shit is true. DLT I thought you was a more sensible poster... I can't believe everything you wrote in this thread. I am disappointed in you bro...

So are u saying that all athletes arenot 100% clean??? Yeah maybe Mayweather is using steroid UNDETECTABLE by blood test??? How was that?? well again, Floyd is willing to take the same exact test that he's asking Pac to take. Dont hate on me, I show Pac mad love. You better read some of my threads

I am only responding to this post because you are a great poster but obviously you are drunk and posting nonsense. Look JMM is better then Bradley so stop that okay. Pacquiao has proven himself already and is now a mega star. why would he fight bradley? what does bradley bring to the table? bradley is a great fighter and one of my favorites but that fight is not happening because it does not make sense. pacquiao already said he would fight mosley so dont act like he is ducking african fighters. you make it seem like mexican fighters are lesser fighters then africans. right? that is bullshit and you know it. it is not like saying "mayweather must fight a legit welterweight" but you are trying to make it sound like that. pacquiao must fight a legit fighter, which happens to be black; that is what i am getting from your post. that if they are not black then they are not legit. Come on now. He clearly always went past Guzman, Campbell, Casamayor, and so on. Then at WW he talked about Mosley-Cotto but he clearly was only looking at Cotto the whole way. Then a ton of these cats he fought were coming off of recent losses or didnt look the same and he still fought them and got mad credit for it. Raheem shuts EM out and no one cares but they still let Pac fight him next and everyone goes insane when Pac stops him. Now EM has lost 3 out of 4 fights, including being shutout twice in a row and stopped in one of them but they still let him have a 3rd fight with Pac and we already knew what was going to happened. Pac stops him again and everyone goes insane like he is a GOD. Nevermind that Raheem just totally shut him out. That same dead EM moves up and loses a super tight fight to Diaz and many think he won. That tells you how bad Diaz is and Pac chose to fight him over the other good black fighters, or even Juan Diaz. No one cares and everyone goes crazy again. Thats why alot of the fighters hate on him because they think he gets credit for doing stuff that other cats get hated on for. They also think alot of his stuff is overhyped while theres is underrated and that shit is true.

Stop catching feelings, bitch. I didnt disrespect you so dont disrespect me. You can hold onto that test all you want but pretty much every steroids experts says those test arent shit unless you do it the way Floyd wants. Even then it has loopholes but thats as close as youre going to get right now. The rest pale. With that being said, I think both sides should compromise and come to some agreement So are u saying that all athletes arenot 100% clean??? Yeah maybe Mayweather is using steroid UNDETECTABLE by blood test??? How was that??