Honestly, I Can See Both Sides

http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1457/de_la_hoya_blog_pacquiaomayweather_impasse/ this should work Thats what I saw 1st too but then I saw this. I would just rather hear it from Tygart's mouth exactly how it goes. Ive heard him say alot but not specificaly how close to the fight they will go. Some say they can go as close as they want and could do it on the same day but IDK. If Oscar is right though then Pac should definatly sign the contract. ---------------------------------- Schaefer said Arum is merely "ranting and raving," and should talk to USADA chief Travis Tygart about how the blood-testing procedure would work. Schaefer said it was his understanding that Pacquiao would have to give "less than a tablespoon of blood" less than 48 hours before the fight under USADA guidelines

its not working for me http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1457/de_la_hoya_blog_pacquiaomayweather_impasse/ this should work

Honestly i stopped reading after the first paragraph... :haha: Alright thats cool most people have short attention spans

http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1457/de_l...ather_impasse/ there's the link... its not working for me

People dont want to admit it on here but Im always fair and always try to look at both sides. I like both guys alot but Im obviously a bigger fan of Floyd as I he's been my favorite fighter since the early stages of his career when he was a nobody. However, I am also a prideful person and if I was innocent and someone told me to do something extra that I didnt have to do then I would tell them to take that offer and stick it up there ass, no matter how much money it is. I also truly understand people being superstitious. Personaly, I wouldnt want to take all those damn blood test, espically if I didnt have to. Therefore, I can truly understand where Pac is coming from and Im ok if he turns the fight down. I dont think that proves anything either way because the bottom line is that you just dont know. On the flip side I can also understand it. You have guys like Senior and Roger who have been around the game forever. Theyve seen a ton of guys do some amazing things so if they think something maybe up in this particular case then you cant just blow that off like they are the average Joe Blow. They have a resposibility to ensure the safety of there fighter, there prize fighter, and there family. I honestly dont think Jr. ever really thought about Pac cheating much or ever really cared. However, as things start getting closer, you do start to think more about stuff. You start thinking that "Im the best in the world and Ive seen Pac fight alot and I know that with or without Roids he cannot beat me. However, what if he is on the juice? How much would it suck for me to lose to this guy and have my career ruined when everyone told me before hand that something wasnt right? Alot of people throw caution to the wind, only to end up regretting it and Im rich enough to where I dont have to sell my soul to the devil like Malignaggi is about to do". I think Jr is struggling with this decision big time. I think one second is like **** the test all together, then the next second he is thinking that he will settle for a week before, and the next second he wants the official Olympic shit. As Floyd said in the statment, I dont think he wants to do that shit either. I think he feels that its way too much stuff to do but he knows that he's clean and if thats what he has to do to know if Pac is clean for sure then he is willing to do it but he doesnt want to do it either. My personal opinion is that I think Pac is doing so well because he again was never as small as people made him out to be. I think he just killed himself to make weight and his body was so good genetically that he could get down in weight and still fight strong. He's been close to his fight night weight for the last few years so all that has really changed is his weigh-in weight and he doesnt have to kill himself to make it anymore. I think alot of what Senior is seeing is more general than specific. Like he picks against Pac in every fight but it has nothing to do with skill, style, or the fight itself. Him & Roger just pick against him every single time for the simple fact that they dont think a man can come from the lower weights and beat these bigger guys. No disrespect to the Pac fans because he does deserve mad credit for the wins but some of the reason he's killing these guys is because he's fighting the right guys at the right time and again, he's much bigger than people think. People also have to add in the fact that he's gotten better. Guys like Paulie are shocked that he can kill Hatton & Cotto in a few rounds while going the distance with guys like Morales, going late with MAB, and going all the way with Larios but the fact is he's alot better now. Roach has improved him every single fight, he uses both hands now, his overall pure boxing skill is alot higher, and Ariza has built his body up to be even more of a weapon. Thats where I think alot of the problems come in. Mr. Ariza. Im not one of those guys who discriminate off of looks but he just looks like he's slick enough to give Pac extra stuff. Alot of people dont like the look of the political goons Pac has around him, they dont like Arum, they think Koncz is a creep, and they dont trust Ariza and his right hand man Grahm who has already been in trouble in the Olympics for roids. Thats what makes people think that something could be up weteher its just Ariza & his team doing it on his own, wether Koncz is involved, or wether its a situation where Manny & Roach know but dont want to know. The other problem is everyone hates Nevada and doesnt trust them. They dont trust any of these boxing places when you look at Tito's gloves, Margaritio's plaster, Mosley failing test, and so on. I mean really, whats to stop any boxer from using roids if they know what theyre doing? If you dont do the blood test the right way then you may as well be doing nothing nowdays. Also, even the Pac fans have to admit that they would love it if he just passed this test one time because it would leave no doubt. With that being said, its not in the rule books for him to have to do it so I understand him not wanting to. Then you have the huge egos involved like Arum who would hate to lose to Floyd in any kind of way. They dont want Floyd to set the terms. Basically, its just a screwed up situation that both sides are uncomfortable with and both sides are probably debating heavy should they give in some. If you look at Pac losing to EM while taking a blood test close to the fight, I could see that playing in his mind. I could also see him feeling like it weakends him. Honestly, thats how I would feel. It also makes me sore when I get the needles but I guess it doesnt bother these guys the same way. With that being said, alot of atheltes who do things just as tough or tougher than boxing do it all the time and it doesnt bother them. I mean Armstrong has to take it and ride a bike for a million miles and they dont complain that it weakens them. Its just iffy either way. I know Floyd thinks he can beat him either way but what if he's actually juicing. Then he could knock Floyd's damn head off and Floyd dont want to go out like that. Pac thinks he can beat Floyd even if he did take the test Floyd wants but what if the fight comes and things are going right. Then he will automatically feel like it was because of the test. You also cant get mad at anyone in this day & era for requesting a roids test. I mean seriously, how can you rip Floyd for that, espically if he's doing it also? but I also wont rip Pac for not taking it because I understand that too. Again, I just hope & pray that he's not doing anyting illegal because it would be so bad for the sport and so bad for us as hardcore fans. I hope he's the real ****in deal and Im watching an ATG in his prime. Alot of people cant say that they were around to see pure greatness like this so I hope he's legit and like I said, Ill always give the guy the benefit of doubt until proven otherwise. He deserves that. We all do Honestly i stopped reading after the first paragraph... :haha:

who said that and where is the article? http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1457/de_l...ather_impasse/ there's the link...

Heres the quote "First of all, the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency agreed that they won?t take blood from the fighters 48 hours" does that clear things up? who said that and where is the article?

Thats what I thought the quote said also but when I reread it, it seemed like it instead said that they do want one test less than 48hrs prior to the fight but it will only be a teaspoon worth of blood Heres the quote "First of all, the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency agreed that they won?t take blood from the fighters 48 hours" does that clear things up?

i definitely agree with that. our position on this issue may be different by i believe we both want the fight to push through Absolutely. It should end in a win-win situation for everyone involved. Especially the fans who want to see a great event take place.

you are aware that negotiations were still ongoing before the testing issue right? so the details of the fight have not been finalized and neither party agreed on some things yet. Yes, I'm aware of that. And I hope they can agree on something that benefits both sides fairly.

USADA did reportedly agree to no testing within 48 hours of the fight just in case you dont know Thats what I thought the quote said also but when I reread it, it seemed like it instead said that they do want one test less than 48hrs prior to the fight but it will only be a teaspoon worth of blood

Pacquao should've agreed for NSAC to do the testing from the start. From what I've read, Team Pac is even willing to do MORE blood tests just not near the fight which is weird. I guess, Pacquiao hates people waking him up in the middle of the night to take urine and blood samples.

USADA did reportedly agree to no testing within 48 hours of the fight just in case you dont know

is that an actual quote? cause from what i understand, manny's camp has stated that he won't be subjected to blood tests too close to the fight from the get go. The point is who makes the rules? Team Pacquiao or the USADA which they at first agreed with having the tests performed?

I feel this whole broo-ha-ha could have been avoided if Team Pacquiao had simply refused or declined to agree to Olympic style random testing from the get go, instead of leading the boxing public on about going forward with the testing when they had no intentions of following through. Instead, they went ahead and agreed to them, to now say "Oh by the way, Manny will only comply if it's done on certain dates. Not when the USADA says it should be done. And if you don't like it, we'll sue you."

Like the other artilce said, Arum knew all along this is what the Mayweather camp wanted so why didnt he get that part straight 1st. Then they keep switching the date on how long before the match will the accept the last blodd test. Pac says just not on the same day, Roach says 3 days to a week, and Arum says 30 days. Which one is it? With that being said, if they would go 3 days or a week then Floyd's side should still take it. I think they should also give in some