Should Manny Pacquiao sue Team Mayweather for Slander? It is a fact that Pacquiao's name has been dragged through the mud and that he has been asked to undergo testing demands no other fighter has ever been required to endure. The only problem with him suing is it could ruin the mega fight, but put that aside for the purpose of the poll. Please discuss.
"Because you know the Philippines got the best enhancement drugs"
Go to 5:00 of the second part of that youtube video.
If you're just listening to the full RA clip, it's towards the end of the interview.
I don't know how strong that will be. I wish RA would have asked him "so you think Pacquiao's on steroids?"
Pacquiao doesn't have a case for that, dumb ass people these days.
how do you know.. are you a lawyer... Even WBO lawyers think he has a very good case..
WBO Lawyer > You...
floyd mentioned in that RA interview that "the philippines is the best steroid producer in the world" thus manny has a case.
Pacquiao doesn't have a case for that, dumb ass people these days.
I'm gonna put this one at bold letters for you Pacquiao agreed to blood testing, the only thing he does not want to do is blood testing 24 hrs before the fight but pacman said he would gladly take a blood test right after the fight in the dugout.
If Mayweather only accepted it then this shouldn't have happened. Pacman is superstitious and thinks it would affect the way he fights if it'd be done in 24 hrs in the fight. Besides does it really make a difference, I mean the results if it'd be done right after the fight?
I been saying this alot but damn Flomo cant read...
And Manny will win in court vs Floyd sr..
what is the time of the interview. I've heard it a few times but I'd like to skip to the part you think is incriminating.
floyd mentioned in that RA interview that "the philippines is the best steroid producer in the world" thus manny has a case.
manny has every right to question testing methods that
1. will be performed by a body of floyd's choice
2. never been done before in boxing
3. is being pursued based on accusations made by floyds camp in the first place
gbp came out with statements saying manny rejected the tests outright. sr. and oscar came out with statements that is defaming to his name.
manny is open to undergo the additional testing which no professional fighter has ever done. just not willing to bend over all the way and make him do things that are unnecessary and he is uncomfortable with.
floyd doesn't make up the rules. manny has every right to file a lawsuit.
The worst thing is it was started by the Known ex convict & Known Crackhead Floyd Sr!!! And then these Golden Gays bought the Idea!!!
yup... hypocrisy at its finest.
you should have added "floyd and ellerbe are homosexual lovers" in the poll options. that is my final stand on this issue
You can add DLH & Schaefer to the Homo Club!!!
Junior can be pinned down in the lawsuit, courtesy of his Rugged Man interview
what is the time of the interview. I've heard it a few times but I'd like to skip to the part you think is incriminating.
Manny can sue for anything he would like and sue whomever he would like. As you can. However, contract law, which this is about, and defamation of character, will come down what did any representative of the Mayweather team say/do to cause pain, suffering, a negative impact to Pacman's career and what is the cost of that.
Mayweather Sr, surely said some things that could be considered slander. However he is not Mayweather jr, nor to my best understanding a paid representative of their team. I think Mayweather team could easily prove he is and was acting on his own merits. Simply pointing to he was going to train DLH to beat him, and all the public spats. This would be easy.
As for Mayweathr and Golden boy, I still have not hear them Accuse him of taking steriods, only insist on blood testing. There is no crime in that, nor anything that would have them liable in a court of law for that. Part of contract negotiations allows for this. Simply because no one has ever requested Blood testing for a fighter who has never tested positive before, means nothing. I do not think lance Armstrong tested positive before either. The more important thing is that it is part of Mayweathers request via the contract negotiations. I am certain that their legal team counseled them on ensuring that ellerbie, mayweather jr, nobody come out and accuse him of taking steriods, as I have closely watched what has been said, and they are very careful to avoid accusing. Thus the whole issue is they want it part of the fight, pacman doesn't. That is simply contract negotiations, 101. If Pacman team does not want it they should not have signed. Luckily for them Mayweather team apparently did not sign, thus they are not on the hook for defaulting a signed contract, Right now they can simply amend the contract to leave out this and coutner propose before Mayweather teams signs, and make this binding, or they can indicate that since both parties have not signed they are wanting to cancel this contract., which it appears they are doing.
This threat for a suit vs Mayweather is a simply a ploy, to get some heat off of him. Some in the media who hate mayweathr, or who do not understand contract law, will fall for it, but in the end you will see this case dismissed.
Yeah I can see this not working out so well. But I really want Pacquiao to have some sort of an agressive response to Mayweather shennanigans.
manny is not suing because of what is on the contract (which was never signed in the first place). he is suing cause of defamation in his character based on the actions of the gbp (which represents floyd) and floyd sr.
i think manny would sue floyd sr. and gbp. he can do that right? cause i haven't studied 5 years law like you.
golden boy, floyd sr, and roger mayweather have come out with statements that make it seem like manny rejected the tests outright, which is not the case at all. it gives the impression of manny trying to hide something and his name has definitely taken a hit because of it. not to mention, floyd sr. started making claims about him cheating a while back.
manny is questioning the tests cause it has never been done in his sport ever. that seems reasonable to me. he agreed to the additional, unnecessary tests with the exception of no blood too close before the fight. one has to question what floyd's camp motive is when he requested the additional tests.
manny's compromise is more than sufficient to satisfy floyd's paranoia. and he didn't even have to agree to the never-been-done before tests.
this is different cause floyd has a history of coming in overweight. manny has no history of being on PED's
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Manny can sue for anything he would like and sue whomever he would like. As you can. However, contract law, which this is about, and defamation of character, will come down what did any representative of the Mayweather team say/do to cause pain, suffering, a negative impact to Pacman's career and what is the cost of that.
Mayweather Sr, surely said some things that could be considered slander. However he is not Mayweather jr, nor to my best understanding a paid representative of their team. I think Mayweather team could easily prove he is and was acting on his own merits. Simply pointing to he was going to train DLH to beat him, and all the public spats. This would be easy.
As for Mayweathr and Golden boy, I still have not hear them Accuse him of taking steriods, only insist on blood testing. There is no crime in that, nor anything that would have them liable in a court of law for that. Part of contract negotiations allows for this. Simply because no one has ever requested Blood testing for a fighter who has never tested positive before, means nothing. I do not think lance Armstrong tested positive before either. The more important thing is that it is part of Mayweathers request via the contract negotiations. I am certain that their legal team counseled them on ensuring that ellerbie, mayweather jr, nobody come out and accuse him of taking steriods, as I have closely watched what has been said, and they are very careful to avoid accusing. Thus the whole issue is they want it part of the fight, pacman doesn't. That is simply contract negotiations, 101. If Pacman team does not want it they should not have signed. Luckily for them Mayweather team apparently did not sign, thus they are not on the hook for defaulting a signed contract, Right now they can simply amend the contract to leave out this and coutner propose before Mayweather teams signs, and make this binding, or they can indicate that since both parties have not signed they are wanting to cancel this contract., which it appears they are doing.
This threat for a suit vs Mayweather is a simply a ploy, to get some heat off of him. Some in the media who hate mayweathr, or who do not understand contract law, will fall for it, but in the end you will see this case dismissed.
But Floyd didn't sign, therefore the contract is an irrelevant piece of paper unless signed by both parties. Completely meaningless.
Your correct if Floyd did not sign. My understanding was Floyd signed first, then Pacman signed, all by the 1st week in Dec, with this blood testing procedure included in it. In fact I recall Roach discussing this issue, back in early dec, and indicating it would be a very minor issue to resolve.
You correct a contract is only valid until both parties have agreed ( it does not have to be signed, if any agreed upon action or exchange has taken place. Verbal agreenments are accepted in every state of the US, however just to be clear here, there has been nothing done yet on either part that was indicated in the contract to be done specifically for this fight) to the terms and a specific action has been done or expected to be done, a exchange of money, barter, services etc.. agreed upon in return, and it has to be legal.
Thus this suit by pacqio will be completley laughed out of the courtroom. Now pacman's stance is a good one, and should be used in their leverage during CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS, but he can't sue because Mayweather team is asking him to submit to blood testing. That is stupid. All he has to say is NO, and if there is no signed contract already, then they go their seperate ways. His suit for slander should be against Mayweather Sr, he was the one who actually said this.
manny has every right to question testing methods that
1. will be performed by a body of floyd's choice
2. never been done before in boxing
3. is being pursued based on accusations made by floyds camp in the first place
gbp came out with statements saying manny rejected the tests outright. sr. and oscar came out with statements that is defaming to his name.
manny is open to undergo the additional testing which no professional fighter has ever done. just not willing to bend over all the way and make him do things that are unnecessary and he is uncomfortable with.
floyd doesn't make up the rules. manny has every right to file a lawsuit.
You show you have no knowledge of contract negotiations or contract law. Let me help educate you.
In a contract such as this, either party can request anything almost of the other party, as long as it is not illegal. Sort of like I can agree to dance for you at your daughters party, but you have to provide purple pinstripe thong for me to wear,,,, If I sign the contract and it is not illegal then, I have a contractual obligation as well as you do, as the contract has to have a performance an exchange and be legal.
You may want to study up on contract law, I did it for 5 years, before switching to Pharmaceutical Sales.
You will see this lawsuit dismissed easily. The grounds of this defamation of character vs Mayweather team. Point out to me, who on Mayweathers teams, SAID HE WAS TAKING STERIODS. Mayweather Sr, is not part of the Mayweather team. Requesting this testing, is something that is being done throughout the united states and is becomeing more and more common. He will lose this arguement, is smashing fashion. In fact the courts are so against doping that, they may laugh at pacman's claim and instead make it mandotory, based on the fact that several high profile boxers have indeed beaten the urine testing standards.
You need to leave out the legal arguement of no professional fighter has ever. That has nothing to do with THIS contract. Has any professional fighter ever been fined 10 million dollars for each pound they are over the limit? This is part of the contract that Mayweather team had to agree to.
What I encourage you to do, is before saying what is legal and not, learn the law. Your arguement is valid in the streets, but not in a court.
Random blood testing for both fighters, is in the contract, and I believe he originally signed it. He has no ground on this.
But Floyd didn't sign, therefore the contract is an irrelevant piece of paper unless signed by both parties. Completely meaningless.
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i havnt seen floyd this worried since the hatton fight
To be fair, he's only had one fight since then anyway, and with Marquez he had nothing to worry about. He knew Juan was useless above 135, like many of us did before Mayweather-Marquez even happened.
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Should Manny Pacquiao sue Team Mayweather for Slander? It is a fact that Pacquiao's name has been dragged through the mud and that he has been asked to undergo testing demands no other fighter has ever been required to endure. The only problem with him suing is it could ruin the mega fight, but put that aside for the purpose of the poll. Please discuss.
yeeeeeeeees :) then they can call him moneyless floyd :P lol joke
I'm gonna put this one at bold letters for you Pacquiao agreed to blood testing, the only thing he does not want to do is blood testing 24 hrs before the fight but pacman said he would gladly take a blood test right after the fight in the dugout.
If Mayweather only accepted it then this shouldn't have happened. Pacman is superstitious and thinks it would affect the way he fights if it'd be done in 24 hrs in the fight. Besides does it really make a difference, I mean the results if it'd be done right after the fight?
The testing after the fight, i do agree with your concerns about. That IMO should be sufficient, to hold up the purse pending independent testing. I wonder if that has been suggested, regarding holding up purse pending independent blood testing. However the stupid suggestion by Arum 30 days out and whatever else, dicating when a randon testing is done, is comey.
I think both sides are full of shit, first the Mayweathers for suggesting this, but since the did, Pacman is full of shit for the way he is responding.
I'm gonna put this one at bold letters for you Pacquiao agreed to blood testing, the only thing he does not want to do is blood testing 24 hrs before the fight but pacman said he would gladly take a blood test right after the fight in the dugout.
If Mayweather only accepted it then this shouldn't have happened. Pacman is superstitious and thinks it would affect the way he fights if it'd be done in 24 hrs in the fight. Besides does it really make a difference, I mean the results if it'd be done right after the fight?
Random. I notice you left this out. You can not have the purpose of blood testing, totally eradicated by dictating the schedule that the test is done. That is simply stupid.
My wife second cousin is pacquio... The blas family from the phillipines, now living in Pearl City hawaii. I have met him and like him. But he is dead wrong on this.
Random blood testing for both fighters, is in the contract, and I believe he originally signed it. He has no ground on this.
I think he should but not for the Pactard reason but because when it is taken to court and Pac loses. He will look even worse than he does now. Just take the test prove to everyone your clean and take the money and run.
He's willing to take the test, just not in exactly to Mayweather's personal tastes. Mayweather doesn't run f*cking boxing. He needs to realize that.
yeah what the mayweathers are doing is just out of control ..poor manny
just a mayweather mind game 2 give floyd an edge i havnt seen floyd this worried since the hatton fight
He does not have a leg to stand on. It was not the Mayweather team first of all that made the allegations, it was Mayweather SR. You have not heard Mayeather jr or Ellerbie say they suspected him of doping. They suggested he take the test to ensure both or on a equal playing field
They can make pretty much anything part of the contact as long as it is legal. Pacman siimply does not have to sign it. If is was not contracted and he then forced this upon him at the last minute then he could have some claim for financial revenue invested into this fight, and be refunded.
However, much as I hate to back Mayweather's loud mouth ass, he is dead right on this one. Blood testing, and not random testing, makes it easy for a fighter to cheat, just look at Mosley, Vargas. So Pacman should stop acting like a wuss, and just agree to the testing, and tell him he is gonna take it out of his ass in the ring, and then do it. If he is innocent, he sure is going about protecting him name in the wrong manner.
I'm gonna put this one at bold letters for you Pacquiao agreed to blood testing, the only thing he does not want to do is blood testing 24 hrs before the fight but pacman said he would gladly take a blood test right after the fight in the dugout.
If Mayweather only accepted it then this shouldn't have happened. Pacman is superstitious and thinks it would affect the way he fights if it'd be done in 24 hrs in the fight. Besides does it really make a difference, I mean the results if it'd be done right after the fight?