Hopkins was once asked after he "retired" if he'd come back for a $20 million fight. His answer was for that kind of money he would return from the grave!
There's absolutely no rational way to turn down a $50+million fight win or lose just because of some tests if you have nothing to hide. Boxers make demands for fights all the time. Manny can make them and Mayweather can't ?
Michael Phelps, Armstrong and every damn great olympic athlete in the world submits to that, including boxers why can't manny do it?
How all of this could have been avoided? just say yes!
He got every concession possible, mayweather had to pay more money than most fighters get for a fight for each pound over the limit.
I always saw manny as a humble guy who was just great and likeable and really thought this was a non issue or a misunderstanding. Now this really makes me wonder about how clean he has been.
You clearly don't understand. Believe it or not, money is a non issue for a guy like Pacquiao at this stage in his life. He could have retired as far back as post Dela Hoya. He could even make tons of pesos in his own country just by appearing in a movie. He is a laidback guy just like many Filipinos. Rigorous training before the fight for weeks on end is not exactly a joy for a guy who have the option of retiring in wealth and style.
What I would like happen to Pacquiao is stand up to Arum and learn to say no. He should have the balls to say I'll retire and come out of retirement when I want to in my own terms. I'm bigger than boxing. The fact that he is agreeing to a 50/50 split with an opponent who is not as impressive and have less crowd draw means there's something wrong in him.
Unlike you people that's my issue with him. Not stupid steroid accusations that won't stand a chance of being proven true.
you're a tool kid--floyd has never accused of manny of taking anything--his father did--the guy who he's about to fight possibly? paulie mag is stll accusing him of steroids--yet manny wantsto fight him....manny fears floyd---and is looking for a way out of this fight---he knew from day 1 he couldn't beat floyd at all---he still knws it---floyd knows it---shane knows it---bob arum knows it--roach wont let himself want to know or believe it, so he was the only one in pac's camp who mattered anyway, who floyd had to show it to-----and of course mann's groupies have to be shown also that manny can't **** with floyd---easy fight for floyd--but he wants even playing fields---
i said mayweathers team, not mayweather. anyway i dont see Mayweather rushing to renounce the statements made by his father.
the case can be made for both trying to avoid the fight but Floyd would have more to lose
:crucifiedfair?? just like the JMM fight eh? making someone move up 3weight devisions and even then not sticking to the weight limits? now was that fair?
Making?he didnt make anyone move up ,JMM took the fight and Floyd had to pay him extra because of the weight
apokalips: who started the steroid actusations based on absolutely nothing? had there been any indication of abuse Manny would have taken the test straight awat but because this was all cooked up by Mayweathers team Manny is taking the highground.
If Manny decide to acuse Mayweather of a rape of sailor boy 5 years prior would you think Floyd would be willing to give his DNA..you're a tool kid--floyd has never accused of manny of taking anything--his father did--the guy who he's about to fight possibly? paulie mag is stll accusing him of steroids--yet manny wantsto fight him....manny fears floyd---and is looking for a way out of this fight---he knew from day 1 he couldn't beat floyd at all---he still knws it---floyd knows it---shane knows it---bob arum knows it--roach wont let himself want to know or believe it, so he was the only one in pac's camp who mattered anyway, who floyd had to show it to-----and of course mann's groupies have to be shown also that manny can't **** with floyd---easy fight for floyd--but he wants even playing fields---
fair?? just like the JMM fight eh? making someone move up 3weight devisions and even then not sticking to the weight limits? now was that fair?
Co-Sign, :boxing:
lol at the comments in here
lol at floyd "making juan manuel move up three division"
juan manuel is a grown mafukkin man son, he knows hot to say no
pacman did it why cant i he probably figured,
All forms of steroids do not stay in your system for a year you moron..If that was the case why would everyone be making such a big rucuss about the times of the blood testing?? There are clearly multiple things Pacquiao can be taking and clearing out of his system in a matter of weeks or days.....idiot
prove it or stfu
weeks or days? hmm so if ronnie Coleman stopped taking steroids for one week your saying he would come clean?
All forms of steroids do not stay in your system for a year you moron..If that was the case why would everyone be making such a big rucuss about the times of the blood testing?? There are clearly multiple things Pacquiao can be taking and clearing out of his system in a matter of weeks or days.....idiot
I say Floyd is not a coward,he wants the fight but it needs to be fair and square
fair?? just like the JMM fight eh? making someone move up 3weight devisions and even then not sticking to the weight limits? now was that fair?
Speculation
it has everything to do with floyd, he keeps making excuses after excuses!! even though if Pac agreed to the tests,he will come up another excuse or outrageous demands im sure...when will this end??
Your honor this is just speculation based on the witness' preconceptions and bias towards a fighter. I ask that the above comment be stricken from the record :P
a $50+million fight and you say no just because of a test?
Hopkins was once asked after he "retired" if he'd come back for a $20 million fight. His answer was for that kind of money he would return from the grave!
There's absolutely no rational way to turn down a $50+million fight win or lose just because of some tests if you have nothing to hide. Boxers make demands for fights all the time. Manny can make them and Mayweather can't ?
Michael Phelps, Armstrong and every damn great olympic athlete in the world submits to that, including boxers why can't manny do it?
How all of this could have been avoided? just say yes!
He got every concession possible, mayweather had to pay more money than most fighters get for a fight for each pound over the limit.
I always saw manny as a humble guy who was just great and likeable and really thought this was a non issue or a misunderstanding. Now this really makes me wonder about how clean he has been.
I dont understand how people are blaming Floyd for this. If pacquiao wasnt taking shit hed do the tests and the fight would get made. Whats it got to do with Floyd?
it has everything to do with floyd, he keeps making excuses after excuses!! even though if Pac agreed to the tests,he will come up another excuse or outrageous demands im sure...when will this end??
oh really? i can go get a thousand articles on neo nazi and right wing websites saying the Holocaust did not happen.
if i then came to you and said the Holocaust did not happen and here is my source would you then believe me?
thats baiscally what you did, there are million of articles showing all arguments, you just chose to pick one that backed you...
Millions of articles to back up all arguments but you can't find 1. :nana: :owned2:
i just dont see why floyd is looking for excuses, how would he know pacman would give literraly a thousand excuses not to take it, i call a spade a spade, the perfect way,( and he knows everybody is questioning him about steroids), the perfect way to disprove and shut mayweathers mouth is to take the test, u are vindicated, no one would have anything else to say including floyd
whatever, i look foward to the winner of berto and shane, pacman would have been a easy contest as manny just doesnt do well with boxers
its the principle, why should he have to prove he is innocent. ig Manny went out today and say floyd has aids do you think Floyd would have a test to prove to him he doesnt? no, he'd simple tell him to stfu. same thing, same principle
i just dont see why floyd is looking for excuses, how would he know pacman would give literraly a thousand excuses not to take it, i call a spade a spade, the perfect way,( and he knows everybody is questioning him about steroids), the perfect way to disprove and shut mayweathers mouth is to take the test, u are vindicated, no one would have anything else to say including floyd
whatever, i look foward to the winner of berto and shane, pacman would have been a easy contest as manny just doesnt do well with boxers